Maybe she didn't abandon the car - Gas cans will solve the case.

[mommaearth]

oops sorry. I haven't had time to read the whole thing:blushingsmiley:

 

[CarrieBean]

does anyone else remember that there was a gas can found at I think Blanchard park a while back. I think they may have dismissed it because GA's gas cans were returned but now hearing that she went out and bought another. Makes me wonder. I am trying to find an article about when the found that.

The gas cans have bothered me from the start. Something very strange about it IMO.

Not sure about an article, but here are the photos.
http://www.josephsjordan.com/caylee/

 

[beaglebrd]

When George tried to start the car it was out of gas so he went to get his own gas cans (from first document dump). None of them knew it was out of gas until they tried to start it. But George must have planned ahead....knowing his daughter and her issues with cars, gas, and breaking into the family shed... (interesting family, eh?)

Bring me up to speed cause I'm confused. When was it that CA and GA were afraid that either KC or Caylee were dead in the trunk and they didn't have the key? They smelled something horrible, but were unable to open the trunk.

 

[bessie]

The 27th would've been around the time that Amy sends a text to Troy B saying that she had "everything out of the house but food".
"I have everything out of the house but food which I'm going back for later." (Item 1995, p 149/168)

Could the food have come from there? The car was first noticed at Amscot around 7am. Seems unlikely Casey was on her way anywhere before 7am. More likely, it was left there the night of the 26th. Someone picked her up that night and they hung out together. The next morning, that person brings her to her car. Along the way, she gets the food from Amy's. (Or did she stay at Amy's former place that night with someone? I've got to go back and review a few things.) And then starts calling JG and Tony to pick her up. That person could've just as easily helped her get gas, which makes me think she really wanted to leave the car there.

 

[CarrieBean]

Bring me up to speed cause I'm confused. When was it that CA and GA were afraid that either KC or Caylee were dead in the trunk and they didn't have the key? They smelled something horrible, but were unable to open the trunk.

I believe they always had a key. I think the comments from CA were due to the smell in the car and not knowing where Casey and Caylee were at the time. I don't believe they had an issue getting into the trunk.

 

[mommaearth]

I wonder if anyone has gone back to get the gas can??

 

[CarrieBean]

I wonder if anyone has gone back to get the gas can??

Back where? I imagine LE checked everything out that was found.

 

[CaptLogic]

Tow truck driver: The white pontiac was parked with the front of the car towards the curb.

17290449.pdf, pg 57

Okay thanks. So then that would really seem to indicate that she likely did not dump anything there because of an unanticipated empty tank. Why would she unload with the trunk facing the entrance to the parking lot. That is right next to the street too. Seeing as it was the 2nd one, likely this was all planned out.

 

[CaptLogic]

The 27th would've been around the time that Amy sends a text to Troy B saying that she had "everything out of the house but food".
"I have everything out of the house but food which I'm going back for later." (Item 1995, p 149/168)

Could the food have come from there? The car was first noticed at Amscot around 7am. Seems unlikely Casey was on her way anywhere before 7am. More likely, it was left there the night of the 26th. Someone picked her up that night and they hung out together. The next morning, that person brings her to her car. Along the way, she gets the food from Amy's. (Or did she stay at Amy's former place that night with someone? I've got to go back and review a few things.) And then starts calling JG and Tony to pick her up. That person could've just as easily helped her get gas, which makes me think she really wanted to leave the car there.

In the Amy text PDF, pt2 on page 27, it shows that Amy got a text from KC on the 27th. It was at 11:34AM presumably while KC was waiting for Tony to pick her up or while in the car with Tony.

That would explain why she text'd Amy after while waiting for Tony about the smell. Maybe Amy gave her a ride to the car with gas can and extra food? Or at the least she met with Amy that morning after leaving Tony's? Someone else gives her a ride to Amscot? or she leaves really early, goes to Amy's before 7am then goes to Amscot? Then she lies and called Tony?

It would make more sense if she met with Amy after 7am and got a ride somehow.

 

[SuziQ]

The 27th would've been around the time that Amy sends a text to Troy B saying that she had "everything out of the house but food".
"I have everything out of the house but food which I'm going back for later." (Item 1995, p 149/168)

Could the food have come from there? The car was first noticed at Amscot around 7am. Seems unlikely Casey was on her way anywhere before 7am. More likely, it was left there the night of the 26th. Someone picked her up that night and they hung out together. The next morning, that person brings her to her car. Along the way, she gets the food from Amy's. (Or did she stay at Amy's former place that night with someone? I've got to go back and review a few things.) And then starts calling JG and Tony to pick her up. That person could've just as easily helped her get gas, which makes me think she really wanted to leave the car there.

Tony stated in his statement, that Casey spent the night before at his house. That she left early in the morning and said she was coming back. That she called him and picked her up at (11am?)

 

[krimekat]

"snipped"
July 15: George picks up Casey's car; takes gas w/ him?


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have any interviewees reported seeing casey in her car the 24th-26th?
[/I]

George initially left the towing company and then returned with cash & gas

 

[SuziQ]

That would explain why she text'd Amy after while waiting for Tony about the smell. Maybe Amy gave her a ride to the car with gas can and extra food? Then she lies and called Tony?

Casey had the frozen food and called Tony for a ride on the 27th.

Amy bought the gas can on the 30th.

 

[krimekat]

does anyone else remember that there was a gas can found at I think Blanchard park a while back. I think they may have dismissed it because GA's gas cans were returned but now hearing that she went out and bought another. Makes me wonder. I am trying to find an article about when the found that.

The gas cans have bothered me from the start. Something very strange about it IMO.

I remember the gas can found in the park . . .

 

[CaptLogic]

Tony stated in his statement, that Casey spent the night before at his house. That she left early in the morning and said she was coming back. That she called him and picked her up at (11am?)

Yea so she could have driven the Sunfire to Amy's to pickup food really early. Or she may have dropped her car off before 7am, then got a ride somehow to Amy's to pickup the food.

Although if this theory that she got the froozen food from Amy is true, wouldn't Amy have mentioned it? I dunno.

I'm finding it hard to believe she got the food from her parents house. Think she can sneak in early without waking her parents? Or at least her Dad after Mom leaves?

 

[mommaearth]

Back where? I imagine LE checked everything out that was found.

They were left by LE they didn't think they were related to the case since GA's gas cans were returned. This could be the gas can purchased at Target

 

[bessie]

Tony stated in his statement, that Casey spent the night before at his house. That she left early in the morning and said she was coming back. That she called him and picked her up at (11am?)

You're right. I went back and re-read Tony's statement. He didn't say what time she left, just that it was morning and she indicated she was coming back. He seemed to believe the food came from her parent's house because they were in "normal plastic bags", not grocery bags, and he mentions she had a couple of changes of clothes.

If the Amscot employee is correct, and the car was there at 7am, she left Tony's some time earlier. If her intent was to go home and pick up clothes and food, why go at that time of morning? C and G would've been up and about at that time. Why not go during work hours?

Either the Amscot employee is mistaken, or;

She met someone who drove her around between 7am and 10-11 when she started calling for a ride, or;

Tony's lying.

 

[Nedthan Johns]

Her fixation on gas cans has fascinated me from the beginning of this case. My first thought, was that she had burned the body, but there would have been some sort of evidence of that in the car, I think....even if it were traces on her clothes or seat cushions, which I am sure have been extensively evaluated by the FBI. After reading the transcript from Amy, I think CA may have been stealing gas to use in whoever's car she was driving. She was using Tony's jeep while he was in New York, right?? She had severed all ties with her parents at this point, and she had no job - thus the need to steal gas to put into whoever's vehicle she was driving at the time. How would she have been able to ask for gas money when she was lying to everyone about having a job?? Long story short - I think the gas cans were necessary to fuel the car she was currently bumming from someone. Now, where did she steal the gas from??? I can only say two words: 'rubber hose' - as in I bet she had one that she used to siphon gas from other cars, and I wish I had one to beat the truth out of her. :furious:

She had plenty of money, was stealing from Grandma/Grandpa, Cindy and Amy. No need for gas cans. They were used to distroy evidence or a body IMO

 

[CarrieBean]

They were left by LE they didn't think they were related to the case since GA's gas cans were returned. This could be the gas can purchased at Target

Did they definitely leave the gas can? Amy's interview was done July 23rd. The photo of the gas can at the park was dated August 17th. They had already spoke with Amy at that time, and knew about her gas can story.

 

[princess]

She had plenty of money, was stealing from Grandma/Grandpa, Cindy and Amy. No need for gas cans. They were used to distroy evidence or a body IMO

I feel the same way..everyone keeps saying a burning body would bring attention & smell..there is no way..but I grew up in Florida..still live here..and though it is very built up compared to 10-20 years ago,there are still many, many lakes/rock pits where people go fish, party, swim, off roading etc...some even have makeshift BQ pits were you cook like a whole pig in the ground for a pig roast --I can not believe I even just typed that--
IMO KC being the party chick she is has probably went to some of these types of parties..we know she Hung with 2 separate crowds..who knows who or where she hung out as a teenager...it really is not that hard to find a out of the way place, but yet not to far out of the way to burn a body and return to finish the job..JMO..

 

[tx_Dot]

Pic of gas can found @ Blanchard Park.....

Originally Posted by EastSideOfSaddness
Here's the gas can that JJ found on one of the searches.


http://www.josephsjordan.com/caylee/Caylee007.JPG