Found Deceased MD - Rachel Morin, 37, left for walk on Ma & Pa Trail 6pm, car found at Williams St entrance, Bel Air, 5 Aug 2023 #2

[x_files]

Maybe this suspect is a transient. He could possibly be couch surfing at a friends house, thus this video. Maybe he “went too far” (SA? Inappropriate contact?) with the friend’s daughter or minor living in the house and got kicked out.

But they'd have his name or at least a nickname right? I hope!
Or someone's date stay over and then try to SA their daughter? steal the car keys on the way out?

 

[FansBlowing]

This guy must live in LA because he was confident to break into a house instead of a public park. He is wearing jogging pants, so maybe he jogs by this young woman's house often. It would be nice weather in March and people would have their doors and windows open to let a breeze come through. He is attractive so maybe this young woman was initially receptive but when she said no, he forced himself on her. Dude's probably married with 3 or 4 kids at home.

 

[NextSprint]

How many people here saying "the LA girl must X" or "the LA girl must have Y", have ever seen a real burglary or violent assault on video or in real life? Or been a victim of such an attack?

 

[Joe Friday]

I keep going back to RM being on more then one dating sites, and have wondered if the victim in California was on a site and the suspect showed up & not the person that victim thought it would, mom comes home and finds out and files report.

Jmo

If the suspect was somehow connected through a dating app, there would be a digital trail to follow.

At this stage it is almost certain that LE would have executed a search warrant on Rachel's phone records, and her house. At her house LE would have collected any computers and devices that can connect to the internet and searched those for any evidence of Rachael being in contact with anyone, such as men on dating apps, Facebook, ect.

There is obviously no connection to the suspect, Rachel and a dating app. If there was, LE would have a starting point to track down the suspect.

Same goes for the victim in California. BUT the victim in CA is still alive and could tell investigators if she met someone online and that is who is seen in the video leaving by the front door.

I think it's safe to assume the suspect is unknown to the victim in LA and to anyone else who may have been at the house, if it was someone else that closed the door after he walked out.

 

[BlaiseFinlay]

Regarding the arm closing the door (and I agree with those who say it's not relevant, but I'm engaging in the hope of providing an explanation that will shut down speculation):

We know it has been described as a "hot burglary" and that it was not a sexual assault. Legally, assault is essentially just causing fear of harm. Pointing a weapon at someone, lunging at someone, etc. So we know he broke in, we know the occupants were home, and we know it's a rough neighborhood. Easy enough to assume he threatened a young girl in the home, during the process of breaking into an occupied home. There's the assault. It's also not unreasonable to assume he was escorted out of the home. Lots of guns in that neighborhood. Lots of people who have dealt with criminals. Lots of gang members. Entirely possible for the perpetrator to have been intimidated enough to leave, and for the occupant to want to ensure he left. I recall that in the case of the Golden State Killer, one couple survived by just telling him "You need to leave" or similar, and he indeed left. Might have told him to put down the cash he was trying to steal too.

DNA can be left by cutting your hand in the process of breaking a window.

In terms of his ability to move cross country and his job, living in LA and having family in Maryland is a very likely/common scenario. And many thieves/robbers drive luxury cars here (I've read many crime reports, the getaway cars are often Mercedes or BMWs), so they're often not destitute. And there are lots of opportunities for work in LA that don't involve a 9-5 job (and as someone else said, theft and drugs can provide a decent living).

So I understand the interest in what happened, but I don't think it necessarily undermines anything that has been reported.

 

[BlaiseFinlay]

Acc. to this statement, the assault case was nearly as serious as the violent murder of RM. How can that be, when we see the future killer leaving the assault-victim in such a harmless looking way? We are able to interpret the "assault" in many versions, based on law, but why LE put it that way: "so serious in nature", remains a mystery.

Breaking into an occupied home is very serious. Always. I can't imagine how terrifying and traumatizing that would be, even if I was not physically harmed. Someone willing to break into an occupied home is usually quite willing to resort to violence. Even if the occupants were able to get him to leave unscathed, there is nothing harmless about it.

I've been a victim of a robbery on the street (another crime that often turns violent if it goes wrong), and a home invasion terrifies me on a whole different level.

 

[LeahBee]

@BlaiseFinlay you said everything I came here to say!

Someone could be charged with assault without actually injuring anyone ie throwing a brick through a window of an occupied room. There is the risk of harm and that is assault. Then climbing through said window, getting cut, using t-shirt to stop bleeding, leaving blood DNA, getting caught, thrown out the front door while trying to rationalize whatever was happening.
this is alllll speculation and I have no idea what actually happened. His appearance somewhat casually leaving the scene is bizarre no matter how I look at it.

jmo imo etc

 

[BlaiseFinlay]

Was the LA video released to the public prior to the murder of RM? If not and there was a serious assault on a young girl and the police literally had video of the attacker, why wasn't that made available to the media ASAP?

There is a lot of violent crime in that area and we can infer that no one was injured during the LA home invasion. I'm just impressed they took DNA and added it to a database.

 

[erihum]

I wonder if the police tactics for crime investigation in gang heavy neighborhoods in LA are quite different than what we are accustomed to seeing elsewhere. Are the police in LA trying to protect the suspects family members/acquaintances against retaliation from those who regularly take justice into their own hands? After seeing the gang map above it makes me wonder if detectives, by design, don’t circulate crime suspects publicly with a request for citizen identification in that area as to not throw gas on a fire or start a gang war. Possibly why we haven’t seen the suspects face or heard a name. The back/profile picture shown is Maryland was all that LA would agree to? Maryland agreed, feeling like something is better than nothing and likely enough for someone in Maryland to ID him if he has been residing locally to avoid capture in LA.

 

[iamnotagolem]

Young girl!!! I don’t know why people keep referring to the LA victim as a woman and alluding to her being not a victim. She’s a child and a victim unless LE says otherwise.

 

[BlaiseFinlay]

I think (as someone else noted before me), that a lot of the opinions here about something being unusual are coming from people without experience committing violent crimes or being victims of violent crimes.

For example, someone commented that it was unusual the guy wasn’t running away from the crime scene. But what is the only reason to run from something? If someone is trying to catch you. We know someone was at the door. Whether that was a victim or an accomplice (likely victim), that means he knew the cops hadn’t been called (being escorted to the door may have been the condition on which he agreed to leave, perhaps when he found the house unexpectedly occupied by a lone young girl). He also knew the occupant was trying to get rid of him, not catch him. And sprinting from a residence could attract unwanted attention from neighbors.

After I was robbed of my purse on the street in LA, I didn’t run away from the robbers, I instead calmly turned my back to them and walked away. My reasoning:
1) I didn’t want them to think that my running was an indication I had more on me that I didn’t want them to get (like jewelry or whatever). They could have pulled out a gun and shot me if they thought it would be worth their while. Wouldn’t have been the first time in the area I was in.
2) Didn’t want to trigger any sort of irrational chase instinct they may have had.
3) Would have been futile. We had the same starting point. They were two men and I am a woman with exercise-induced asthma. Running was not going to be my winning strategy.

I describe how the whole thing went down as “peaceful, as far as violent crimes go.”

 

[steeltowngirl]

If we would only know his home town/home area: location of first crime or second crime or neither .....
They have to find his family per genealogy/family tree.

Except if he was placed as a young child with a foster or adoptive family. If he moved through the system, it’s possible that there are no biological relatives with registered DNA that have knowledge of who or where he is now.

 

[Jurisprudence]

I wish Banfield hadn't made those mistakes. It's so so important to get every single detail correct

That his haircut was only a few weeks old? I heard that too. I wish they would have corrected her.

My question is whether he set out to kill RM or if this was a rape that had gone horribly wrong. She fought back and in the process he took her life. It's possible this person is a serial rapist, not serial murderer and if so, I hope they are re-interviewing recent known rape victims.

jmo

LAPD seeks Mulholland Drive hiking trail sexual assault suspect

Police are searching for a sexual assault suspect who attacked a woman on a hiking trail near the 17000 block of Mulholland Drive on Nov. 21, 2022. The suspect is described as a man in his 30s with a 2-inch scar on his right forearm.

www.cbsnews.com

Suspect in Mulholland Drive trail sexual assault remains at large: LAPD

The search intensifies for a sexual predator who assaulted a woman on a hiking trail in November.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Jurisprudence]

There is a lot of violent crime in that area and we can infer that no one was injured during the LA home invasion. I'm just impressed they took DNA and added it to a database.

You're impressed. But, I find it very odd. I find it telling. And, it has long made me suspect that there's a lot about that home invasion that we don't know.

jmo

 

[Bogbacal2]

I tried enhancing the picture. Didn’t work that well!

 

[Friday Fan]

"Dog's" on the case. Won't take long now. LOL

I think he's just looking for a paycheck. Seriously, he's a bail bondsman not a psychic. Who's gonna confide in him anyway?

 

[Friday Fan]

I keep going back to RM being on more then one dating sites, and have wondered if the victim in California was on a site and the suspect showed up & not the person that victim thought it would, mom comes home and finds out and files report.

Jmo

I didn't know she was on dating sites. (But, duh it doesn't surprise me because she had just started dating her boyfriend) Maybe that's where he saw her. She certainly is striking.

 

[Friday Fan]

If the suspect was somehow connected through a dating app, there would be a digital trail to follow.

At this stage it is almost certain that LE would have executed a search warrant on Rachel's phone records, and her house. At her house LE would have collected any computers and devices that can connect to the internet and searched those for any evidence of Rachael being in contact with anyone, such as men on dating apps, Facebook, ect.

There is obviously no connection to the suspect, Rachel and a dating app. If there was, LE would have a starting point to track down the suspect.

We don't know this. We don't know if perp simply saw her picture and didn't interact. Then, maybe he saw her on FB or something afterward.
We don't know...

 

[Jurisprudence]

I wish someone in the media would do a FOIA request on the March incident. I can't find any record of it. The recent reports that mention it only do so in passing. They don't delve into it any further. LE can hold back a lot under the California Records Act (and in this case we know there is information they must hold back to protect the witness) but they can't hold back everything. Cal. Gov. Code § 6254(f) Why is there not even a blotter of a home invasion occurring? An incident report? An old news report? Anything?

jmo

 

[NextSprint]

I think (as someone else noted before me), that a lot of the opinions here about something being unusual are coming from people without experience committing violent crimes or being victims of violent crimes.

For example, someone commented that it was unusual the guy wasn’t running away from the crime scene. But what is the only reason to run from something? If someone is trying to catch you. We know someone was at the door. Whether that was a victim or an accomplice (likely victim), that means he knew the cops hadn’t been called (being escorted to the door may have been the condition on which he agreed to leave, perhaps when he found the house unexpectedly occupied by a lone young girl). He also knew the occupant was trying to get rid of him, not catch him. And sprinting from a residence could attract unwanted attention from neighbors.

After I was robbed of my purse on the street in LA, I didn’t run away from the robbers, I instead calmly turned my back to them and walked away. My reasoning:
1) I didn’t want them to think that my running was an indication I had more on me that I didn’t want them to get (like jewelry or whatever). They could have pulled out a gun and shot me if they thought it would be worth their while. Wouldn’t have been the first time in the area I was in.
2) Didn’t want to trigger any sort of irrational chase instinct they may have had.
3) Would have been futile. We had the same starting point. They were two men and I am a woman with exercise-induced asthma. Running was not going to be my winning strategy.

I describe how the whole thing went down as “peaceful, as far as violent crimes go.”

Agreed! You talk a lot of sense. A relative of mine was stabbed (albeit in the arm, and they are fine thankfully) in London last year. She said that she walked away calmly, because she didn't really have time to absorb what was happening until it was all over. Humans do things that appear strange in traumatic situations.