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She'll never say it, either.
Arndt believed it was JR from the moment she observed him carry his dead daughter up from the basement. She was suspicious of his every move and described how she mentally counted the bullets in her gun to be sure she had enough if she needed them. This...from a detective who disregarded every thing she learned about proper protocol and preserving a crime scene. Yes, she thought this really was a kidnapping and not a murder, but that house was still a crime scene. Even if it was a REAL kidnapping and JB was not in the house, it should still have been preserved. There could have been evidence of the kidnappers all over the place. And she let all those people STAY in the house, where they WIPED DOWN the kitchen counters. The place where the flashlight and possible murder weapon was. The fridge- where prints on the door handle may have provided clues as to who took out that bowl. All of it- the fault of Officer French and Det, Arndt.
I know she was left alone in the house and refused backup when she asked for it. But still- she was the one with the gun. She could have put them all in one room and kept them there.
Arndt is clearly nuts (look at her eyes) and ought to be ignored. She reconciled with PR before PR's death and strongly implied that PR had NOTHING to do with JB's death.
Give me a break.
I don't think Ms. Arndt was referring to Patsy Ramsey.
Arndt believed it was JR from the start.
Arndt never believed Patsy had anything to do with it. She was a trained rape victim's specialist and viewed women as victims in most situations. She was NOT a homicide detective, and with so few homicides in Boulder, I'd have to say the BPD had no one on the force who was very experienced. A homicide detective would have known better than to move the body or cover it with anything. Arndt allowed both to happen, as well as doing it herself. It was the most blatant disregard of proper protocol I have seen in a crime like this. This was MURDER. A CHILD's murder. No one in LE knew what to do. They walked around like the Keystone Cops.
An offer of help from the Denver police force was declined by the Boulder Chief of police, He rather resented the offer, too, as it implied Boulder couldn't deal with it alone. They were right. Boulder COULDN'T deal with it alone.
Read the interview she gave after PR died. She exonerated her.
I've read it although I'm still not sure what to make of Ms. Arndt's interviews. Have you read/seen any of Steve Thomas's interviews? He believes Patsy did it and John had nothing to do with JonBenet's death. Both Arndt and Thomas are persuasive.
I think the most persuasive theories are from Walter A. Davis ("An Evening with JonBenet") and Andrew G. Hodges ("Mother Gone Bad"). Steve Thomas is also persuasive.
Why Linda Arndt thinks JR did it and PR had nothing or little to do with it is beyond me. The only possible scenario is that JR was sexually abusing JB and decided to kill her, and that at some point PR stepped in to help for some reason (there is no way JR wrote the ransom note).
Linda Arndt seems nuts to me.
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I haven't read Davis or Hodges books but wrote them down so I can; thanks sandover.
I honestly believe they were both involved at the evidence clearly points to this. But I still wonder if JR wasn't covering up the sexual abuse of JB by one of her brother's or grandfather?
And yes DeeDee249 I agree with you about Ardnt's statement when JR looked at her with their faces inchs apart she knew what happened she said and was scared. Several police officers not following simple protocal and one scared? How odd is that?
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Interesting interview with Arndt, she seems quite convinced by what she felt.
And THAT is the difference.
Arndt is working on instincts and piecing together observed behaviour at the crime scene, ON the day of the crime.
Thomas is working on evidence and piecing together observed behaviour of the Ramseys from days after the crime to a few years later.
Arndt's theory is a gut instinct and Thomas is using evidence. So they're not really looking at the same thing.
I think it's a bit harsh to say she's nuts when she has clearly been affected by the events of that time. Strong feelings and emotions don't equate to being a nutjob.
And THAT is the difference.
Arndt is working on instincts and piecing together observed behaviour at the crime scene, ON the day of the crime.
Thomas is working on evidence and piecing together observed behaviour of the Ramseys from days after the crime to a few years later.
Arndt's theory is a gut instinct and Thomas is using evidence. So they're not really looking at the same thing.
I think it's a bit harsh to say she's nuts when she has clearly been affected by the events of that time. Strong feelings and emotions don't equate to being a nutjob.
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Gut instinct is what I will go on everytime. So thank you for your post wonderllama. But I still have to wonder about the evidence that is there; yet have not seen.
I do not believe I ever stated that PR was a nutjob; although I do feel she was a drama queen.
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Sandover mentioned she was "clearly nuts"....
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Yep, wonderlama did. But I said she was nut's in another thread as well. I probably would have been as well going through whatever it is that they all went through that night. How horrific and tragic.
wonderllama,
Yes I think you are 100% correct here. Det Arndt also knew JonBenet had been sexually assaulted, she was present at the autopsy interview, so saw JonBenet's injuries, she also saw all the autopsy photo's, e.g. the closeups of JonBenet's pubic area.
Sometimes gut instinct is correct, but for the wrong reasons. This is what I reckon Det Arndt was intuiting the day JonBenet was found. She knew John's behaviour was unusual, as was Patsy's, but when you add in the post-rationalization, e.g John as abuser, Arndt's abuse training etc, she comes up with her theory to explain everything away.
Also like other people in the case she has been told not to speak on the record, and her book has never materialized!
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I remember Arndt's reaction was tucking her gun under her arm and thinking okay how many bullets do I have and how many people are in the house. Wonder why she felt threatened for her life, not just be John but by everyone? This was also her gut. What do you guy's make of this?
I think she felt that all the people the Rs called to the house that morning also KNEW what happened and were prepared to defend the Rs against her, if needed. I think she feared that if JR surmised that she believed that he had killed his daughter- he might have tried to kill her too and she needed to be prepared to defend herself, not only against him, but against all his friends as well. That's why she was mentally counting bullets.
From the moment JB was found inside the home, Arndt knew it was not a real kidnapping and the RN had to be a fake. The pieces began to fit, into some horrible puzzle. Calling in friends and clergy against the explicit warning of a kidnapper's ransom note defies belief- but ONLY if it is a real kidnapping and a real ransom note. In this case, in that split-second, Arndt realized exactly what she was really dealing with there.
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So how do you all explain the foreign DNA on JBR? How do you explain the intricate knot used? Those are 2 overwhelming pieces of tangible evidence that blow a whole in whatever "gut feeling " idea you guys might have. I think its sad that even after death and a Boulder press conference clearing the R's that they can't get some compassion and open-minded support. The EVIDENCE points to a monster from outside the family.
The chances are any one of us at any given time, if tested, would have a lot of foreign DNA on their person. By Patsy's statement, JonBenet hadn't had a bath in more than 24 hours before the time her body was found.
In my state, press conferences don't clear people, not even if the DA is delivering the statement. That is done by a judge and/or jury.
tyroneous1,
There is zero evidence available to link anyone outside of the Ramsey household with the death of JonBenet.
No fingerprints, no foreign fibers, no hair follicles, no semen, no saliva, no footprints, no bite marks, no blood stains, not a trace, absolutely nothing, zilch!
So I guess the mythical intruder was wearing a wetsuit or boiler-suit so to avoid leaving no traces at all.
The dna found on JonBenet has yet to have its source verified. It may have arrived on JonBenet from almost anywhere, it may simply be redundant environmental touch-dna picked up by JonBenet when she visited the toilet, then transferred to her underwear?
So statements like this:
are not very helpful, especially when no evidence exists that can be linked to any said monster!
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There is NO evidence that points to any PERSON outside the family. Everyone's clothing has foreign DNA on it. There was foreign DNA on JB's CLOTHING ONLY. The OTHER evidence on her body and at the crime belongs to her parents.
UNTIL a donor is named for that foreign DNA - every single person who was in that house at the time of the murder is a suspect, like it or not.
NO one cleared the family legally. NO ONE CAN CLEAR them legally. ML's OPINION that they are cleared is just that- an opinion. Legally it has no weight because they have never found a donor for the DNA. A murder remains UNSOLVED until they have a suspect BY NAME. Until then, NO ONE can be cleared in an unsolved murder.
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