JMO, but this is why I avoid the DM. I feel they twist things on purpose, just to get their readers riled and feeling upset. Unfortunately, better quality news is increasingly paywalled.
Found Deceased Mexico - Jake & Callum Robinson,Jack Carter Rhoad 30’s, Australian, & Friend, surfing trip in the Baja California, 28 April 2024
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Maybe they didn't even fight back against their vehicle being robbed. Maybe all they did was fight in literal self-defense. I wouldn't trust a single word the suspects say.
I was thinking that too, especially when the perps had already killed someone. And they knew it was 3 very big guys against two probably smaller ones. And were they on meth and likely paranoid? etc.
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In a press conference early this morning, authorities confirmed the three bodies retrieved from the well had been shot through the head, execution-style.
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Here is a new non-paywalled article that includes some of what Randy Dible said.
Probably isn't any less confusing though.
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It seems that the killers didn't even want the ute. They wanted its tyres.
The authorities are waiting for Callum and Jake's parents to identify their sons.
She said it appears the attackers were passing through the area when they decided to steal the campers' ute, which they wanted for its tyres, and they shot the campers when they resisted.
The attorney-general said investigators were confident more than three people were involved in the attack.
Family of the Australian men have travelled from Western Australia to Mexico.
Ms Andrade Ramírez said they would be asked to identify the men at a facility in Tijuana.
DNA tests would only be carried out if the family members could not identify them by sight.
One of the men, named as Jesús Gerardo García, now faces a "forced disappearance" charge. He has a history of drug dealing, domestic violence and vehicle theft, Ms Andrade Ramírez said.
www.abc.net.au
The authorities are waiting for Callum and Jake's parents to identify their sons.
She said it appears the attackers were passing through the area when they decided to steal the campers' ute, which they wanted for its tyres, and they shot the campers when they resisted.
The attorney-general said investigators were confident more than three people were involved in the attack.
Family of the Australian men have travelled from Western Australia to Mexico.
Ms Andrade Ramírez said they would be asked to identify the men at a facility in Tijuana.
DNA tests would only be carried out if the family members could not identify them by sight.
One of the men, named as Jesús Gerardo García, now faces a "forced disappearance" charge. He has a history of drug dealing, domestic violence and vehicle theft, Ms Andrade Ramírez said.
'Wanted to steal their tyres': Aussie brothers confirmed dead in what Mexican police say was botched robbery
Mexican authorities say they believe two Australian tourists and their American friend were shot dead by thieves who were trying to steal their car for its tyres.
www.abc.net.au
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bbmIt seems that the killers didn't even want the ute. They wanted its tyres.
The authorities are waiting for Callum and Jake's parents to identify their sons.
She said it appears the attackers were passing through the area when they decided to steal the campers' ute, which they wanted for its tyres, and they shot the campers when they resisted.
The attorney-general said investigators were confident more than three people were involved in the attack.
Family of the Australian men have travelled from Western Australia to Mexico.
Ms Andrade Ramírez said they would be asked to identify the men at a facility in Tijuana.
DNA tests would only be carried out if the family members could not identify them by sight.
One of the men, named as Jesús Gerardo García, now faces a "forced disappearance" charge. He has a history of drug dealing, domestic violence and vehicle theft, Ms Andrade Ramírez said.
'Wanted to steal their tyres': Aussie brothers confirmed dead in what Mexican police say was botched robbery
Mexican authorities say they believe two Australian tourists and their American friend were shot dead by thieves who were trying to steal their car for its tyres.
more than three attackers...
I hope the others are apprehended too.
And we are not sure the 23 year old woman who had the phone was actually present during the attack.
Thanks. Yes, I'm seeing confusions on MSM and social media about this, too.
The point is, the man in the story, who made the recommendation on a knapkin, is not the only person they consulted about where to go (including the internet, and probably made up their own minds).
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Missing surfers died from gunshots after attempted robbery, Mexican officials say
Families of two Australians and American who went missing in Baja California have identified the bodies, officials say
IMHO
The end of this article is ridiculous- saying these guys weren’t attacked because they were tourists and the perps had no idea they were tourists.
They just thought they were a bunch of natives with California license plates- nothing to see here- it’s safe for tourists- perps just wanted tires that’s all- nothing to be scared of- rolling my eyes!
The claim is they were killed in a scuffle, yet all 3 were killed with head shots, which does not make sense to me. It would be hard to do that in a scuffle, the body would be a bigger and easier target. Maybe 1 head shot but all 3? Seems they were all executed imo.
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Maybe even executed while they slept. imo
Traces of blood were also reportedly found in the tents.
I've wondered if she was actually trying to get away from the one she was in a relationship with.
I read she had been cooperating with the police, and she was the one who turned on the phone leading to their arrests.
One of the perps has domestic violence charges. She may have been trying to escape, but would've been in danger. I'm not defending her, because she could be as bad as the others, but it's another angle.
Actually, it occurs to me now, they probably wanted their cash and electronics...probably to buy drugs.
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I wish he wouldn't feel bad. It's the fault of the perps, and also the police for not investigating the case of missing rancher properly. Imagine if they had found the rancher and arrested the suspects (assuming it was the same group). More deaths could have been prevented.
I just read they now believe more people were involved (more than just the 2.)
A bit more info about what LE believed happened.
The family have confirmed the identities too
“The attackers drove by in their vehicle,” Ms Andrade Ramirez said.
“They approached, with the intention of stealing their vehicle and taking the tyres and other parts to put them on the older-model pickup they were driving.
“When they (the victims) came up and caught them, surely, they resisted.
“And these people, the assailants, took out a gun and first they killed the one who was putting up resistance against the vehicle theft, and then others came along and joined the fight to defend their property and their companion who had been attacked, and they killed them too.”
The family have confirmed the identities too
“The attackers drove by in their vehicle,” Ms Andrade Ramirez said.
“They approached, with the intention of stealing their vehicle and taking the tyres and other parts to put them on the older-model pickup they were driving.
“When they (the victims) came up and caught them, surely, they resisted.
“And these people, the assailants, took out a gun and first they killed the one who was putting up resistance against the vehicle theft, and then others came along and joined the fight to defend their property and their companion who had been attacked, and they killed them too.”
To be honest, I don't think there would be Mexicans doing that, sleeping in tents on the beach when they could afford a nice truck..., I don't think they'd feel safe. They'd go stay in town in a (crappy) motel with a secure parking lot...
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Ita.
So senseless and such a waste.
Rip to the rancher who was killed earlier, as well.
Omo.
Good observations !
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I was thinking the same.