GUILTY MI - Chelsea Bruck, 22, Frenchtown Twp, 26 Oct 2014 #3

[Savetonight91]

Was clothing found or not? Some conflicting reports with a reporter saying police are right back where they started? Any info?

 

[StacyMarie83]

I have to get this off my chest ... recent articles have really been hitting the patrons of the party hard ... things like "too drunk and high to be of any help" and this bugs the crap out of me. Those young people there (with the exception of people who may actually be involved) were at that party to let loose and have a good time - they were not there to babysit other party goers. I think they need some slack cut - most of us, if not all, have been to a party ... while you do see your surroundings, you don't always pay attention to the back ground or outfits. I've been to many farm house parties - it's dark, woodsy, and LOUD! Sorry for the rant, i just think the 500+ people who most likely did nothing wrong except having a foggy memory should not be patronized. And it's not most sleuthers - it's more of the media and social media

 

[rosesfromangels]

I have to get this off my chest ... recent articles have really been hitting the patrons of the party hard ... things like "too drunk and high to be of any help" and this bugs the crap out of me. Those young people there (with the exception of people who may actually be involved) were at that party to let loose and have a good time - they were not there to babysit other party goers. I think they need some slack cut - most of us, if not all, have been to a party ... while you do see your surroundings, you don't always pay attention to the back ground or outfits. I've been to many farm house parties - it's dark, woodsy, and LOUD! Sorry for the rant, i just think the 500+ people who most likely did nothing wrong except having a foggy memory should not be patronized. And it's not most sleuthers - it's more of the media and social media

I don't think it's the partying that rankles most people, but the subject matter of the music. It's very dark. JMO.

 

[monster12]

I have to get this off my chest ... recent articles have really been hitting the patrons of the party hard ... things like "too drunk and high to be of any help" and this bugs the crap out of me. Those young people there (with the exception of people who may actually be involved) were at that party to let loose and have a good time - they were not there to babysit other party goers. I think they need some slack cut - most of us, if not all, have been to a party ... while you do see your surroundings, you don't always pay attention to the back ground or outfits. I've been to many farm house parties - it's dark, woodsy, and LOUD! Sorry for the rant, i just think the 500+ people who most likely did nothing wrong except having a foggy memory should not be patronized. And it's not most sleuthers - it's more of the media and social media

I agree, she was an adult and has been to his parties before so knew what to expect. I would also assume her friends and family knew what type of party she was attending. Not like any of that matters. In my opinion, they continue to make the comment about everyone being drunk/high because people keep saying "how does nobody know what happened when there was over 600 people at a party?". It seems the public is just confused that out of that many people, barely any have memories or recall seeing her or something that seemed out of place. On the other hand, I agree with your comment. I couldn't even tell you what my friends were doing or wearing when I saw them last weekend and we were all together. Most people wouldn't pay attention to something that wasn't out of the ordinary unless they had a real reason to be concerned. It's just unfortunate. With that many people and if it wasn't a costume party, what type of info would they have to go off? But it being dark and such a widespread area, it's difficult to say if the circumstances would be any different. They may also know more info about the details than they are sharing with us as we all know but keep giving off the vibe they have no leads or real evidence.

 

[Green-Eyed Blonde]

It really started melting March 10 (Tues.) and continued throughout the week. By the weekend after that I was amazed to see yard/grass finally.

 

[Green-Eyed Blonde]

Again, Monster 12, I agree with you. With many people in costume and enjoying music, partying, how surprising is it that no one knows or remembers much. With such a large party and so many attending (coming and going) it was no doubt a confusing, noisy time there. Again, rereading the media info the Sheriff's Dept. sounded pretty definite that the clothing and other items related to Chelsea's disappearance. Would a pair of black yoga pants have generated much attention or helped someone walking there to connect with Chelsea? The wig and the ivy covered top were much more distinctive.

As far as Flat Rock people not being involved/committed to finding Chelsea as Monroe area people, I do agree. I really don't see purple ribbons/flyers there. However, I attend church and have many friends there. They all know why I wear a purple ribbon on my coat. I think it depends on family and friend connections if people are interested. If people have watched the news in the months since Chelsea went missing, they certainly know about the story. The coverage has been really good, all due to her family in my opinion.

I also wondered how 60 acres could be searched so closely in less than two days. But I never heard how many officers assisted in the search and did expect additional searching in that area. I don't know what to make of this either. I don't know anything about the young man who made the false report: I too wonder where he lived.

 

[goldenbear]

Have any searches been scheduled for the weekend?

 

[Spellbound]

No word on more searches right now.

In response to previous posts, the party host did offer to do more in the beginning but was asked by the family to "not participate." Respectfully, he has kept a low profile, but I believe he kept fliers at the band events held since then. I don't know if he does still, though. He was very polite in replying to my comment on his FB page and said anyone would be welcome to attend and pass out the fliers.

 

[traacker13]

Wow, Monster 12: this description is wonderful and in great detail. I appreciated all the info and your thinking.

I can't imagine someone leaving clothing, etc. in abandoned site if wanting to get rid of them. There are certainly other ways of permanently getting rid of them and not possibly have your DNA show up or other evidence connected with you and then be implicated. My thinking is they were not just dropped there in a site unrelated to Chelsea's disappearance. If you and your garbage wasn't being checked out by police, why not just put the items in trash and let them be dumped? Why not burn them? People burn items around this area all the time. Most people know someone in the country where burning can be done. A couple bags of papers/documents along with these items could be burned and no one would know.

Especially with how rural the area seems to be. IMO it would be somewhat easy to disassemble the outfit and burn it or bury it. It could be hidden anywhere. The fact that it was found here and relatively out in the open speaks a lot about why it's here...

 

[Green-Eyed Blonde]

Essentially I was trying to say that and Traaacker13, you wrote eloquently. Thank you and I so agree....

 

[traacker13]

Completely agree with your thought process, green eyed blonde. [emoji4]

 

[rosesfromangels]

The violent lyrics and themes in PAP's music have been mentioned frequently. I've read some lyrics and watched a few videos but can't spend too much time pursuing this uke: Definitely out of my comfort zone :angel:

What would have drawn Chelsea to this type of music? The brutal themes are so far removed from her religious upbringing, parochial school education through 8th grade, family morals and values, etc. What would have drawn this unassuming, sheltered, seemingly innocent young woman to that type of music? It just seems so out of character for Chelsea; I can't wrap my brain around it.

Did Chelsea feel socially isolated, found a group of friends with whom she felt comfortable, and simply follow their lead into the dark world of heavy metal? Was she secretly longing for a more worldly existence than she had with her family? Was she trying to rebel from her strict, sheltered upbringing? :dunno:

I've thought about this a lot in trying to pull this case apart. Thinking back (way back) to my late teens and early twenties, each group of kids always had the awkward younger sister or brother who wanted to hang out with the "cool kids". These often times socially awkward kids were the gofers, the clean up crew after the party, and often the brunt of many a practical joke. But they were so happy to be part of the gang, they'd take whatever was dished out. Remember that kid?
Well maybe Chelsea was that kid.
From the media reports she seems sweet, uncomplicated, and happy. I just think she was easy prey, and was most likely the type of sweet gal who should have never been separated from her friends and their watchful eyes. If her phone had of worked that night, I doubt I'd be typing this now. Life can be a fine line indeed.

 

[Spellbound]

Well said, roses. Although as far as I know her phone did work, she just didn't keep it with her. Did I forget something again?

 

[rosesfromangels]

Well said, roses. Although as far as I know her phone did work, she just didn't keep it with her. Did I forget something again?

I don't know why I thought that. Maybe because she kept showing it to the vendor and it ended up in someone's trunk? I have no idea. Old brain syndrome.
Suffice it to say if she had of had her phone, this thread may have never existed. I so so so wish that were the case.

 

[Criminal Justice mom]

From the start of this, I've always wondered what attracted Chelsea to that type of music when it seems so very different from her personality and up bringing. It just seems that the music and atmosphere is so very different from how she is described as being. Was there a different side to Chelsea than is being told to the public? No disrespect intended!

 

[cluciano63]

Jmo in so many of these cases, the missing person ends up separated from those he or she went out partying with. I hate that. Of course, something terrible doesn't always happen...but when it does, one of the first things we often hear is how the friends lost track of him/her. But I guess it is bound to happen. One would think, though, that they would text each other if one is leaving with someone other than who they arrived with. I gather Chelsea did not have her phone on her...ugh, if only she had, maybe she would have texted her friend, said who she was leaving with or at least, left pings for possible tracking. Anyway, this post is convoluted, am just frustrated at seeing so many of these cases...jmo

 

[GigTu]

So, after reading everyone's thoughts from the past few days, something popped into my head. This probably won't be a popular theory, and I mean no disrespect... but I feel I need to at least ask this once. Has anyone ever considered a jealousy angle? Meaning, one (or more) of her 'friends'?

 

[Criminal Justice mom]

I had seen a brief news clip where the mother of the guy who was charged with making a false report was standing in her door way Talking. (I'm pretty sure it was said it was his mother.) So, I'm gathering he still lives at home with her from the way she talks about her conversations with him.

 

[FindHG]

No GigTu, she was much loved and considered to be kind, warm, loyal, true and honest friend, no big secrets what you see is what you get warmth by all accounts. No enemies, it seems to me, a mark. I may be a little jealous of her mom, that she had Chelsea as daughter before she went missing because she sounds like a lovely girl with just great taste and style, edgy, witty, funny, so jealous in the kindest way. Look at her pictures, GigTu, the amazing community supporting her. Nothing, besides being a super fan of PAP, did Chelsea do to bring this on herself, it seems to me, that she was not going to miss BM's bash was clear.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Agree FindHG. The other evening I spent time scouring the net for anything about Chelsea that might give me a tip on who might have had motivation to commit an act against her. Like you, I've been on this thread for months, getting to "know" this young lady. What I found was nothing but a sweet young lady who seemed adored by all. And I dug around. All goodness. A sweet soul, it seems.