MI MI - Detroit, *GRAPHIC*, WhtFem 25-45, UP8175, skeletal in alley, long, fine poss red hair, Mar'09

[CarlK90245]

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/deans_deborah.html

Deborah Elaine Deans

Not the best of matches to your recon, but she doesn't seem to have much forehead, she has a prominent chin and her age and timeframe isn't totally incompatible with the Doe.

As I said in my post #1, I have no idea whether she looks like that in an overall sense. I was just trying to capture a sense of what her facial shape and placement of her facial features looked like, combined with a couple of versions of what her hair might look like. And as was discussed earlier, the backward tilt of the skull in the photo might affect the apparent size of her forehead, and also her jawline with respect to her chin.

But with respect to the facial shape, Deborah looks quite close.

 

[webrocket]

there are 10 rule-outs for the UID, none of whom is one that we mentioned here:

Michelle Benjamin 1972 Pennsylvania
Jennifer Casper-Ross 1975 Nevada
Tina D'Ambrosio 1961 Arizona
Crystal Hall 1984 Kentucky
Ruth Hoffman 1941 Michigan
Randa Jawhari 1966 Michigan
Sheila Main 1969 Ohio
Kim O'Connell 1966 Florida
Christina Rodriguez 1985 Florida
Patricia Schmidt 1964 Virginia

 

[Magnum P.E.]

Carl, you are amazing with those reconstructions.

An observation; I live in a somewhat warmer climate than Detroit, and for a corpse to become skeletonized here takes months. Am I to understand that a corpse laid in an alley in a city long enough to become skeletonized? My (highly inexpert) estimate for Detroit is between 6 months and a year. Being dumped there after partially decomposing elsewhere would be unusual in the extreme.

 

[carbuff]

Carl, you are amazing with those reconstructions.

An observation; I live in a somewhat warmer climate than Detroit, and for a corpse to become skeletonized here takes months. Am I to understand that a corpse laid in an alley in a city long enough to become skeletonized? My (highly inexpert) estimate for Detroit is between 6 months and a year. Being dumped there after partially decomposing elsewhere would be unusual in the extreme.

It's not a "city alley" exactly -- in the street view Carl posted, it looks more like a power line right of way running between a series of small closely packed lower blue-collar houses. It's full of trees and weeds and looks to be like several bodies could be lying there undiscovered for quite some time.

 

[Magnum P.E.]

It's not a "city alley" exactly -- in the street view Carl posted, it looks more like a power line right of way running between a series of small closely packed lower blue-collar houses. It's full of trees and weeds and looks to be like several bodies could be lying there undiscovered for quite some time.

OK, since she was found in March she probably was there over the winter, which actually makes sense.

 

[traacker13]

I submitted Alicia Digna and she has been ruled out.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/digna_alicia.html

 

[jenstar]

I wonder how long a UID has to sit before becoming "mummified"? Is the "two years" based on at LEAST two years, or at MOST two years? JW
Anywho, I've got a possible unless she's already been discussed? (sorry if she has though)
Height is off by almost two inches, age by a year younger; but it looks like everything else may fit. but also went missing in 2006..
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/5288/20/

 

[Romulus]

Peoples female missing from Michigan into the age range

Elizabeth Land https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/24007/52/
Bridget Gallagher https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/27139/62/
Rita Kowalski https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/11765/63/
Lisa Douglas https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/25065/73/
Ashley Parlier https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/831/75/
Mary Lands https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/827/79/
Sarah Vitt https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/10622/80/
Michelle Lokker https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/1829/83/
Amy Derewitz https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8834/89/
Aferdita Gjergjaj https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/9155/93/
Christina Schutz https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/855/98/
Christine Byers https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/9144/99/
Coral Hall https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/5406/100/
Robin Jobson https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7551/101/
Julia Fulgenzi https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/23161/103/
Georgina Ujczak https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/10946/112/
Jody Collazo-Rios https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/14801/114/
Cindy Lesko https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/13920/118/
Jody Brant https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/10117/119/
Tammy Niver https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7994/122/
Bernice Gray https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8581/130/
Dawn Silvernain https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8982/133/
Connie Royse https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/5414/138/
Aundria Bowman https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/1830/144/
Stacy Chahorski https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/27780/145/
Phyllis Flynn https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/14263/147/
Kellie Brownlee https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2566/168/
Kim Larrow https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2547/172/
Dean Pyle Peters https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7914/173/
Tammy Clemens https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/28055/176/
Kimberly King https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2544/177/

 

[EmmaliLucia]

The roads in that neighbourhood look like Hell. But I'm wondering if that's because Detroit declared bankruptcy a few years back?

Either way, it seems strange that the neighbours didn't notice anything. I'm wondering what her killer's motivations were for putting her in the alleyway... Maybe the house next to it was in forclosure at that time and no one would notice? This was immediately after the crash of the economy.

 

[Romulus]

The Jane Doe found in Detroit in 2009

 

[misse1343]

I'm asking if there is any reason to test for Robin Jobson ( my sister in law)

 

[carbuff]

I'm asking if there is any reason to test for Robin Jobson ( my sister in law)

I'm sorry your sister in law is missing. Is this her? https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/7551/101/

 

[coffeeandacig]

Just trying my hand at doing a reconstruction.

BTW... Does anyone know if Jessie Sue Gurley https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/28551/12 been already checked for a match? And if not, what do you think?

 

[coffeeandacig]

Thought I'd add long reddish brown hair, as is listed on her Namus page and make her a bit more realistic.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Mary Denise Lands still missing 15 years after disappearing from Michigan

 

[indicolite22]

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/deans_deborah.html

Deborah Elaine Deans

Not the best of matches to your recon, but she doesn't seem to have much forehead, she has a prominent chin and her age and timeframe isn't totally incompatible with the Doe.

Deborah has been recently found:
Former roommate charged after remains found believed to be Nash County woman missing since 2004

 

[coffeeandacig]

My newest sketch for this still unidentified woman.

 

[carbuff]

there are 10 rule-outs for the UID, none of whom is one that we mentioned here:

Michelle Benjamin 1972 Pennsylvania
Jennifer Casper-Ross 1975 Nevada
Tina D'Ambrosio 1961 Arizona
Crystal Hall 1984 Kentucky
Ruth Hoffman 1941 Michigan
Randa Jawhari 1966 Michigan
Sheila Main 1969 Ohio
Kim O'Connell 1966 Florida
Christina Rodriguez 1985 Florida
Patricia Schmidt 1964 Virginia

Recent exclusions The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
MP4286 Alicia Digna Michigan
MP10563 Nonnie Dotson Colorado
MP4010 Bethanie Dougherty New York

 

[Reachingfornettles]

OH - Patricia 'Patti' Adkins, 29, Marysville, 29 June 2001
She was going to canada on a fishing trip with her married boyfriend. Is this one that can be ruled out?

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Could this decedent be Canadian?