Michelle Young ~ Pregnant Mother NC Part 1

[PolkSaladAnnie]

I am trying to stay neutral, but the information we have heard so far sure makes hubby seem like the most likely culprit. IF SO, I agree that he probably did not actually leave town after leaving the house, returned to the house to kill his wife, and then bolted out of there to try to get to his hotel in time to fit with a leisurely long-distance drive.

I am wondering about the friend who stayed later with Michelle. I believe this is a male friend, right? What do we know about him? I am just wondering if the friend and Michelle were having an affair and the husband returned home and saw something going on. OR maybe there was no affair but the husband suspected there was and he doubled back to the house to try to catch them. Maybe the murder was due to jealousy whether it was founded on reality or not. Just a thought.

Hi Cypros. I might be totally wrong - but I wouldn't be surprised if Jason was messing around. (Not necessarily a firm affair - but at least messing around with other women). My thoughts are based on IF rumours of his finances and gambling debts are true. Was he gambling w/out Michelle's full knowledge? Did he go out gambling alone - or as a couple? If he went alone - we all know casinos have bars, music, lots people - and ----->

If he did gamble alone (and even if Michelle knew) this sets an ideal stage to see someone else and *claim* to be gambling....

SP sold manure: maybe Jason's selling placebos?

Yes, I'm judging prematurely :truce: but somehow the image I have of Michelle tends to be that of a 'together' woman who took her family/dau/pregnancy and associated responsibilities seriously...

 

[Cypros]

Hi Cypros. I might be totally wrong - but I wouldn't be surprised if Jason was messing around. (Not necessarily a firm affair - but at least messing around with other women). My thoughts are based on IF rumours of his finances and gambling debts are true. Was he gambling w/out Michelle's full knowledge? Did he go out gambling alone - or as a couple? If he went alone - we all know casinos have bars, music, lots people - and ----->

If he did gamble alone (and even if Michelle knew) this sets an ideal stage to see someone else and *claim* to be gambling....

SP sold manure: maybe Jason's selling placebos?

Yes, I'm judging prematurely :truce: but somehow the image I have of Michelle tends to be that of a 'together' woman who took her family/dau/pregnancy and associated responsibilities seriously...

I also do not get the impression of Michelle having an affair. I am just throwing out possible scenarios and the chance that the husband SUSPECTED something was going on, whether true or not. If he left the house and then went back and killed her it is premeditated murder. If he left the house and then returned and witnessed something between Michelle and the friend and then killed her out of jealousy and rage then premeditation MAY be ruled out.

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

I also do not get the impression of Michelle having an affair. I am just throwing out possible scenarios and the chance that the husband SUSPECTED something was going on, whether true or not. If he left the house and then went back and killed her it is premeditated murder. If he left the house and then returned and witnessed something between Michelle and the friend and then killed her out of jealousy and rage then premeditation MAY be ruled out.

OK - right, I get it now and thanks Cypros, i.e.: Jason's perception!. I'm a :doh:

Yes, especially if he was the jealous type and/or has a low self-esteem; on the video clip I just watched of Michelle's mom at the funeral - a statement of condolences flashed up from Jason's work, ChartOne. He'd been there 3 months. Wonder if his work-history added to his finance problems (aside from gambling...)

 

[Boyz_Mum]

Thanks, Sewingdeb! Interesting..

Perhaps I'm pushing the envelope a little - however, their home was in a fairly quiet area; my husband would not leave me for a 5-hour drive at midnight if I was pregnant, had a 2 yr-old and the nearest neighbour was out of sight and earshot. He'd still make the trip - but he would have ensured family or friends spent the night with me (vice versa). He'd DEFINITELY have called on arrival to relieve ME of any fears for his safety, too. Diff'rent folks, diff'rent strokes??

JMO...

I might be pushing the envelope a little further but... my husband would have left me at home while pregnant but would have also made sure that another adult was checking in with me frequently (he wouldn't have anyone stay with me because I can be very independent when stubborness suits me!). In the same vein, if my husband knew I could take Friday's off of work he would have invited me and the baby with him- because nothing is funner than making a business trip pleasureable. And as you said PSA, my husband if traveling alone would have called me even at 3 am to tell me if he's arrived safely at his destination. That may sound odd, but I wouldn't be sleeping well until I knew he was safe. So it may just be different strokes for different folks?

The poster who brought up the times of travel (leaving at 4 am for the "meeting" vs. getting to the town where the business meeting is supposed to occur at 4 am). I appreciate that viewpoint too. It would seem easier to rise up earlier in the morning and do the travel to be at the meeting by 9am- even with a quick stop to the folks house to change rumpled clothing and shower up. Leaving town late in the night on Thursday doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

With my opinions, I hope I am not offending anyone- since little has been released, Jason seems to be the only person that would have had the means and opportunity to commit the crime and I have no idea of what his motive could be- a lot of things happen in marriages that remain behind closed doors. Just my opinion!

 

[ISPTRAX]

Some people are defending Jason, others are sure he's guilty. Interesting reading:


http://www.topix.net/forum/city/raleigh-nc/TPARI863OPL3J66GN/p2#lastPost

Quite an interesting link... thanks for sharing. It appears there's a certain "friend" who attended the funeral and everything who is defending the "fax"... saying it wasn't even a "fax" but a "printout sent to their computer". Huh???? Do they mean and e-mail with an attachment? If that's the case, my hinky meter just went haywire even more. First off, the sister she'd never been asked to do something like that... and wouldn't she need passwords to log onto a computer and know how to navigate around??? Something smells like rotten fish, to me :liar:

 

[Taximom]

Am I wrong that she was approx. 4 mos pregnant? She was working 4-5 days a week? She seemed in healthy condition and I don't think I read of her pregnancy being in the risky category.

Maybe my hubby is a thoughtless cad, but up until the last month or two of my pregnancies, he and I went about our businesses separately. Also, I would do anything to keep from being in a car for 3-4 hours straight while pregnant. I had to travel for business back in the day, and I would have preferred an RV just for the bathroom alone during those pregnant months.

Again, no offense meant. Maybe I need to have a talk with my hubby!

While we are talking about possible affairs, IF he was involved in one or several, who says it has to be with a woman? Seriously, we've seen it all and this is a possibility along with all the other thoughts being thrown around.

Again, thoughts only. I really hope he's innocent because that would be the best thing for their daughter.

 

[Taximom]

Does anyone know when Michelle's birthday is?

 

[Floh]

I got the impression the other person(s) visiting that night was/were female and they were watching Grey's Anatomy together. i learned (or at least i read it there, not claiming it's gospel) this on the CTV thread.

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And another thing - in this thread:

http://www.topix.net/forum/city/raleigh-nc/TPARI863OPL3J66GN/p2#lastPost

someone (a friend in nc) claims to know Jason and Michelle well and also claims to know what went on says:

"Of course, there's the mysterious fax. I can clear that up for you real quick. It wasn't a fax - it was a printout sent to the computer about a gift Michelle wanted. It was a surprise."

sorry if this repeated information. there have been several pages added to this thread since i last came here and i'm sure to have missed something.

i have no idea what the truth is and do believe there are always strange persons who want to inject themselves into a real-life crime story by claiming to be 'best friends' with the protagonists, maybe even more-so nowadays with internet message boards. although this could be a genuine friend/family member i'm just returning and reporting.

 

[Boyz_Mum]

Quite an interesting link... thanks for sharing. It appears there's a certain "friend" who attended the funeral and everything who is defending the "fax"... saying it wasn't even a "fax" but a "printout sent to their computer". Huh???? Do they mean and e-mail with an attachment? If that's the case, my hinky meter just went haywire even more. First off, the sister she'd never been asked to do something like that... and wouldn't she need passwords to log onto a computer and know how to navigate around??? Something smells like rotten fish, to me :liar:

That was odd to me as well, if he had a printout sent to the home for a surprise gift, why wouldn't he take the extra 5 minutes and have it sent to a place like an office supply store near him at the time and if it was in the form or email, he could have had it sent to a friend or family. I am with you on the rotten fish...

 

[Boyz_Mum]

I got the impression the other person(s) visiting that night was/were female and they were watching Grey's Anatomy together. i learned (or at least i read it there, not claiming it's gospel) this on the CTV thread.

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And another thing - in this thread:

http://www.topix.net/forum/city/raleigh-nc/TPARI863OPL3J66GN/p2#lastPost

someone (a friend in nc) claims to know Jason and Michelle well and also claims to know what went on says:

"Of course, there's the mysterious fax. I can clear that up for you real quick. It wasn't a fax - it was a printout sent to the computer about a gift Michelle wanted. It was a surprise."

sorry if this repeated information. there have been several pages added to this thread since i last came here and i'm sure to have missed something.

i have no idea what the truth is and do believe there are always strange persons who want to inject themselves into a real-life crime story by claiming to be 'best friends' with the protagonists, maybe even more-so nowadays with internet message boards. although this could be a genuine friend/family member i'm just returning and reporting.

If this was a good friend and knew about the surprise gift, why couldn't he have sent the confirmation to that person's computer? If Jason was comfortable enough with that "friend", one would think he would be comfortable enough to ask them if he could send the confirmation to them so Michelle could not discover it?

I agree with you, there are people who want to inject themselves into the story (even if it isn't crime related). I don't know what the truth is- I would like for this crime to be solved.

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Hi Taximom - I'm sure I read her b/day is February... think I read Feb 17, 1977. (It struck me because of all the 7's ... next year my birthday falls 07.07.07 heh heh ... )

 

[SewingDeb]

Yep, even better option, SewingDeb ...

And ... sorry to add this: indeed, many of us are pointing fingers the size of Eiffel Tower at Jason. However, we have to concede that it's almost history repeating itself. As news unfolds and as the various players come into focus, we have a very similar background-grid as Scott P's was. Only difference ISP found the New Year's vigil more of a social gathering (ugh!) and we saw how he made facial movements that mimicked tears with Gloria Gomez and co...

But we don't only have to refer to SP's crystal-clear case: we may pull 'the grief stricken' parent-spouse-perps from a deck of cards - pluck some at random - and get the same staged-tears, such as: remember the young mom Susan (...er??? sorry family names evades me) drowned her 2 darling little babies in her car - all to secure a prospective lover's committment? She was all-emotional at the funeral and in public? Mark Hacking did the same... :razz:

Susan Smith? Yes...we've learned that tears don't necessarily exonerate a person from suspicion.

I still want to give the husband a little bit of slack. I'm hoping it was not him but it is stacking up that way.

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Morning friends!

Eeeeuw... There seems to be (imo) a near-cat-fight going on in one of the Michelle-Related blogs! Started yesterday. Sorry if this appears a dumb question - does copyright apply to a whole POST , not a full thread, from a blog - or should I just post it and provide a link to the rest of that blog thread? Reminds me of when I used to lurk at CTV during SP's crime.

I have the post that set the cat amongst the pigeons in it's entirety: some of the comments have been posted here, however I really sense this obnoxious poster is a family member of Jason's due to the passion, refuting certain 'facts' and calling LE liars (to that effect).

It's a long post ... but I'll go on whatever is legal and/or your advice.

Thanks guys. PSA

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

Susan Smith? Yes...we've learned that tears don't necessarily exonerate a person from suspicion.

I still want to give the husband a little bit of slack. I'm hoping it was not him but it is stacking up that way.

Ah, bless you, SewingDeb. Susan Smith! Thanks.

 

[SewingDeb]

Am I wrong that she was approx. 4 mos pregnant? She was working 4-5 days a week? She seemed in healthy condition and I don't think I read of her pregnancy being in the risky category.

Maybe my hubby is a thoughtless cad, but up until the last month or two of my pregnancies, he and I went about our businesses separately. Also, I would do anything to keep from being in a car for 3-4 hours straight while pregnant. I had to travel for business back in the day, and I would have preferred an RV just for the bathroom alone during those pregnant months.

Again, no offense meant. Maybe I need to have a talk with my hubby!

While we are talking about possible affairs, IF he was involved in one or several, who says it has to be with a woman? Seriously, we've seen it all and this is a possibility along with all the other thoughts being thrown around.

Again, thoughts only. I really hope he's innocent because that would be the best thing for their daughter.

Good point, Taximom. Mine was overprotective because we lost our twins due to premature birth the first go round. (almost 19 years ago) My subsequent pregnancies were immediately after that and close together so he was very protective from the very beginning of the pregnancies. Michelle was young and healthy and probably had no problems with her first pregnancy so none would be expected with this one.

Good point about possible affairs. You never know these days.

It really will be tragic for little Cassidy if she ends up losing both parents.

 

[SewingDeb]

Morning friends!

Eeeeuw... There seems to be (imo) a near-cat-fight going on in one of the Michelle-Related blogs! Started yesterday. Sorry if this appears a dumb question - does copyright apply to a whole POST , not a full thread, from a blog - or should I just post it and provide a link to the rest of that blog thread? Reminds me of when I used to lurk at CTV during SP's crime.

I have the post that set the cat amongst the pigeons in it's entirety: some of the comments have been posted here, however I really sense this obnoxious poster is a family member of Jason's due to the passion, refuting certain 'facts' and calling LE liars (to that effect).

It's a long post ... but I'll go on whatever is legal and/or your advice.

Thanks guys. PSA

I'm not sure what the rules are but it might be best to post a link and tell us how far down to scroll and which posters' names to look for. I'm very curious! LOL.

 

[ISPTRAX]

It really will be tragic for little Cassidy if she ends up losing both parents.

Not if Dear Daddy is a cold-blooded murderer. She'd do better growing up with someone like Meredith.

 

[otto]

If this was a good friend and knew about the surprise gift, why couldn't he have sent the confirmation to that person's computer? If Jason was comfortable enough with that "friend", one would think he would be comfortable enough to ask them if he could send the confirmation to them so Michelle could not discover it?

I agree with you, there are people who want to inject themselves into the story (even if it isn't crime related). I don't know what the truth is- I would like for this crime to be solved.

"Of course, there's the mysterious fax. I can clear that up for you real quick. It wasn't a fax - it was a printout sent to the computer about a gift Michelle wanted. It was a surprise. Kind of takes away the media sensationalism if that fact isn't provided." (
http://www.topix.net/forum/city/raleigh-nc/TPARI863OPL3J66GN/p2#lastPost)

That explanation may be completely out of left field, but I agree that it seems to make matters worse. Someone also pointed out that accessing someone else's computer requires passwords and navigating around someone's personal files - hardly what one would ask of someone else. Also, most tech people (like Jason) set up their computers for separate users so that they have different desktops and email profiles when logging into the same computer. If it was sent via computer to Jason, then no one but Jason should have had access to it. It might have been a "print out" but without hitting the print button, no one is going to see it.

As for making that reassuring phone call when safely arriving at a destination, that just seems like the mature, responsible thing to do. Jason should have called no matter what time and left a message about arriving safely. My 24 year old arrived at her vacation destination last night and she phoned to tell me all was well. She does this to make sure that I don't worry ... which is the normal thing that happens when people love each other.

I also like the theories about too many alibis. There was work, the friend that knew what time he left, the parents that could say when he arrived, the business trip to place him out of town, the fax to get someone to go into the house. It's seems so overplanned that it doesn't work - especially for a guy that doesn't even bother to phone and tell his wife that he arrived safely or know that she is taking her usual Friday off.

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

OK, SewingDeb: er... I'll post HALF .... of this poster's 'response', lol... link follows at the end.

"Wake Co. Sheriff Donnie Harrison was just days from an election when this murder occurred. Is it possible, rather than admitting he had a homicidal maniac running around on his hands and that he hadn't kept people in this affluent neighborhood safe, it was much easier to tell the public this wasn't random and there was no cause for alarm? Afterall, he really wanted to be re-elected.Finally - as to no signs of forced entry. Again, this was a very *safe* neighborhood. I think its quite possible she either didn't think it necessary to lock the door or forgot to.
Lastly, the infamous fax. first, it wasn't a fax at all, it was a computer print out. Second, it was something he'd sent to the computer to be printed out regarding something Michelle wanted for a gift, presumably for Christmas.

That is why he called her sister to pick it up and not Michelle. It was a surprise. Oh by the way, the sister had functioned as the couple's nanny and had a key to the house and often took care of their dog, their child, and did other errands for them. It was very normal for either of them to call her to pick something up.
Lastly, as to the comments of a "neighbor"
- divorce - lol about that. You guys know a divorce would be public record, right? This was a young couple in love. There was no divorce, or talk of divorce.
-Michelle was found fully clothed in a sweatsuit per her sister who found the body.

And further along:

It is a pathetic, pathetic sign of an ignorant society when people who know nothing about those involved with this situation choose to comment. Its even sadder when the comments are so dumb and completely unfounded. The Young family has suffered enough at the hands of the press and a sheriff's department seemingly incapable of doing their jobs. Jason young has lost the love of his life and is devastated. I hope no one ever has to walk a mile in his shoes to face the loss and devastation he now faces, but perhaps it would be a good lesson to us all. Ever heard of people in glass houses? If this happened to this couple in this neighborhood, it could happen to anyone anywhere. Hmmm, now you have the facts. Does that change things a little. Not quite so sure its a duck anymore?

Posted by: are you guys really that dumb???

Gee, those parts I made bold??? Make me go: Hi Lee, long time no see :silenced:

Here's the link: http://www.mermaidsinging.com/2006/11/jason_young_murderer.htm#comments

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

"Of course, there's the mysterious fax. I can clear that up for you real quick. It wasn't a fax - it was a printout sent to the computer about a gift Michelle wanted. It was a surprise. Kind of takes away the media sensationalism if that fact isn't provided." (
http://www.topix.net/forum/city/raleigh-nc/TPARI863OPL3J66GN/p2#lastPost)


I also like the theories about too many alibis. There was work, the friend that knew what time he left, the parents that could say when he arrived, the business trip to place him out of town, the fax to get someone to go into the house. It's seems so overplanned that it doesn't work - especially for a guy that doesn't even bother to phone and tell his wife that he arrived safely or know that she is taking her usual Friday off.

Hi otto: yep - overplanned is a good way of putting it! Ugh, I can't HELP but bring out more nasty shadows from the Scott era:

REMEMBER ... with the fax, otto - Scott goes to the warehouse to retrieve an 'important fax' and the boat is there - no one knows he had it - and he rsponds the boat was a CHRISTMAS SURPRISE FOR LACI

Seems Jason Rumour has it Jason had a Surprise Christmas Gift, via a fax, at an odd location and a whole heap more, for Michelle. This is so close to the origina version it's ridiculous.

JMO.