Identified! MO - Dixon, Wht/NtvFem UP10222, >35, off Hwy MM, upper denture, May'81 - Karen Knippers

[Susikatze]

I don't think the death date for the brother in the tree is correct as I believe he is the one still living in Virginia that the DNA was compared to (per public records).

That is possible. Those trees are to be taken with a massive grain of salt.

 

[ntt1]

That is possible. Those trees are to be taken with a massive grain of salt.

The birth dates do seem to be a perfect match. Not sure where the 1972 death info was sourced to.

Anyways, it also seems that the isotope testing does seem to been mostly correct, as the family seems to have lived mainly in the Southeastern US. I do wonder how the possible Native American descriptor came about.

 

[Feme98]

The birth dates do seem to be a perfect match. Not sure where the 1972 death info was sourced to.

Anyways, it also seems that the isotope testing does seem to been mostly correct, as the family seems to have lived mainly in the Southeastern US. I do wonder how the possible Native American descriptor came about.

Perhaps from a visual analysis of her body, I wonder if Karen had a connection to the Dixon Class of 81

 

[Blurgle]

And another forensic anthropology fail, according to her Gedmatch, she was not Native American but almost exclusively Northern European. She had a tiny bit of "Siberian" admix, though, which may be noise or some distant First Nations (from the North) ancestor. But she did not have the "classical" Native descent genetic profile (which would show as "Amerindian", it is not very precise, either).
Shows again the need for DNA analysis as a standard procedure in all the new (and old) UID cases.

Looking at various posts on the Eurogenes blog, it seems that "Siberian" admixture is commonly found among European groups living around or near the Baltic Sea - Estonians, Russians, Finns, Saami, etc. Knippers is in fact a Baltic German name!

 

[victoriarobinson642]

RIP, Karen Knippers.

 

[Feme98]

Here is a retouched version of Karen’s photo.

May she Rest In Peace.

 

[onceuponadecember]

Karen was from Lakeland, FL. Her parents were from Tennessee.

 

[onceuponadecember]

Looks like she never completed high school. She must’ve been born between June - December 1948 since she was in the class of ‘67 and the latest age to be 16 at was 1949

 

[onceuponadecember]

Here’s the info I could gather so far:

• 1948: Karen is born
• 1963-c. 1965: Attends Lakeland HS in Lakeland, FL
• December 18, 1973: Marries in Hernando, FL
• c. May 24, 1981: Karen is murdered

 

[onceuponadecember]

Her mom died when she was about 18. (Her mom was an English teacher in Mulberry, FL). I’m going to try and watch the press conference, but I’m with family in FL right now, so god knows.

 

[Feme98]

Did Karen drop out from HS? Is it possible that she was at the alleged party on May 24th?

 

[Susikatze]

Siberian is also found in various indigenous population of very northern polar circle parts of the American continent and together with large amounts of "Amerindian" also among Canadian First Nations tribes. But the amount is very small, it may also just be noise.

Looking at various posts on the Eurogenes blog, it seems that "Siberian" admixture is commonly found among European groups living around or near the Baltic Sea - Estonians, Russians, Finns, Saami, etc. Knippers is in fact a Baltic German name!

 

[Eman317]

RIP Karen. Guess the name that was written on the inside of her bra wasn't her name after all.

 

[onceuponadecember]

Did Karen drop out from HS? Is it possible that she was at the alleged party on May 24th?

I don’t think she would be at that party. She was from Florida and was 32.

 

[Susikatze]

RIP Karen. Guess the name that was written on the inside of her bra wasn't her name after all.

It is strange. Who wears an used bra someone else put their name in? I dont think she was homeless or transient. Even if it gets mixed up in a laundromat or dorm or community housing, people would rarely wear such a piece. It is kind of like underpants, the stuff even hardcore dumpster divers or thrift shop fans wont touch... and if someone else scribbled their name inside with black sharpie, even less... i mean its not a Victorias Secret bra or anything fancy, either....

 

[Blurgle]

It is strange. Who wears an used bra someone else put their name in? I dont think she was homeless or transient. Even if it gets mixed up in a laundromat or dorm or community housing, people would rarely wear such a piece. It is kind of like underpants, the stuff even hardcore dumpster divers or thrift shop fans wont touch... and if someone else scribbled their name inside with black sharpie, even less... i mean its not a Victorias Secret bra or anything fancy, either....

My friends group wouldnt have blinked at buying second-hand bras back then. Panties never, but I don't think any of us would have considered a second-hand bra 'dirtier' than a shirt. And we weren't homeless or anything like it!

 

[Susikatze]

Yes but with a name scribbled on it with sharpie? I am a big thrift shop gal, but i wouldnt buy that or even take as a gift. But i am a spoiled millenial ))

 

[onceuponadecember]

Yes but with a name scribbled on it with sharpie? I am a big thrift shop gal, but i wouldnt buy that or even take as a gift. But i am a spoiled millenial ))

I know people have thought that was a nickname, but perhaps she changed her name through SS before she died?

 

[Feme98]

I know people have thought that was a nickname, but perhaps she changed her name through SS before she died?

It’s possible, I’ve been thinking that the name was written by her assailant as a form to throw off LE.

And either the marker didn’t have enough tint or decided to erase it in some way.

 

[onceuponadecember]

Here’s what they said at the Press Conference:

• Missing from St. Louis, MO
• Originally from Lakeland, Florida (born December 5, 1948)
• Married on December 18, 1973
• Later moved to St. Louis, MO (between 1973-1981