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The fatal shooting of an unarmed black teenager Saturday by a police officer in a St. Louis suburb came after a struggle for the officer’s gun, police officials said Sunday, in an explanation that met with outrage and skepticism in the largely African-American community.The killing of the youth, Michael Brown, 18, ignited protests on Saturday and Sunday in Ferguson, Mo., a working-class suburb of about 20,000 residents. Hundreds of people gathered at the scene of the shooting to question the police and to light candles for Mr. Brown, who was planning to begin college classes on Monday.
Mr. Brown’s stepfather, Louis Head, held a cardboard sign that said, “Ferguson police just executed my unarmed son.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/11/us/police-say-mike-brown-was-killed-after-struggle-for-gun.html


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?253372-Police-shooting-of-unarmed-teenager-Michael-Brown-St-Louis&p=10861113&posted=1#post10861113

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-teen-Michael-Brown-2&p=10867195#post10867195

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Police bowed to public pressure Friday and named Darren Wilson as the officer who shot to death unarmed teenager Michael Brown, and they released a report that said Brown was being sought in connection with a robbery minutes before the fatal encounter.

At a brief appearance, during which he took no questions from reporters, Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson described Wilson as a six-year veteran of the Police Department with no prior disciplinary problems.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-fergsuon-shooting-police-name-20140815-story.html
 
http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y441/Uther3/Working Uploads2/Autopsy4_zps15fa8b76.jpg

According to Baden's autopsy, the bullets that struck Brown were not fired from close range, as indicated by the absence of gunpowder residue on his body.

Some of the bullets left several different wounds.

One of the bullets shattered his right eye, traveled through his face, exited his jaw and re-entered his collarbone, according to the autopsy.

The last two shots were likely the ones to his head, attorney Gray said. One entered the top of his Brown's skull, suggesting his head was bent forward when he was struck.
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http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-family-autopsy/index.html

Bringing this forward from thread that is closed..


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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/u...&region=lede-package&WT.nav=lede-package&_r=0
 
SStarr33 said:
Moving this over from the other closed thread:

Just a reminder of an eyewitness statement about what happened in the shooting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfy5FiqzWHI#t=24

:biggrin:
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Bringing my comments over from previous thread regarding the actual friend that was with him's interview on video. Not this particular one but one of the friend talking about what happened when they were confronted by officer.

I saw a video of this type of interview with the friend. This is link below to one I am referring to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlMjhoYPmZ8

If what he says is basically true, then...

This is JMO but what I think may have happened is once the officer threw the door open and it hit into the 2 people then right after that the officer may have used improper techniques from that point forward because it says he grabbed at the person and a struggle ensued.

If the officer did not command him to stand back with his hands up or lay on the ground or anything like that, then when the officer grabbed at him, then the person would have no idea why he is being grabbed at and I can understand why a struggle happened.

Again JMO but what I think happened after that is the officer tried to go for his own gun and it went off and struck the person. Whether accidentally or on purpose. The friend said he saw blood after that first shot.
So if this is true, then I believe this 1st shot is where it all went wrong. Most likely all because of improper techniques of dealing with the guy.

I dont know why the officer would have been so close to the 2 people to where his door slammed into them when he opened the door but this doesnt sound like proper technique to allow to be so close as he was opening his door.
I also dont understand why the officer would have grabbed at the guy and I dont understand why the guy was shot with that 1st shot unless it was an accident as the officer tried to get his weapon out and point it at him while trying to hold him with his other hand.

It all is so confusing and this is just the friend saying a lot of this. I do think this early part of the indicent is where things went very wrong and improper techniques may have contributed. It doesnt sound like any commands of get back , lay on the ground, put your hands up, your under arrest, or anything like that was stated at first.
It sounds like just a confrontation got physical as the door was opened and officer grabbed him. According to friend of course.
 
You guys can link to the sketch on Photobucket, but do not image the sketch please. It's not MSM.
 
IMO opinion the autopsy sketch showing his arms up CLEARLY shows that the graze wound on the hand would NOT have occurred if his hands had been raised palms forward.

It could quite easily have occurred if his hands/arms were at his sides in a running position.
 
Hatfield said:
Bringing my comments over from previous thread regarding the actual friend that was with him's interview on video. Not this particular one but one of the friend talking about what happened when they were confronted by officer.


I saw a video of this type of interview with the friend. If what he says is basically true, then

This is JMO but what I think may have happened is once the officer threw the door open and it hit into the 2 people then right after that the officer may have used improper techniques from that point forward because it says he grabbed at the person and a struggle ensued.

If the officer did not command him to stand back with his hands up or lay on the ground or anything like that, then when the officer grabbed at him, then the person would have no idea why he is being grabbed at and I can understand why a struggle happened.

Again JMO but what I think happened after that is the officer tried to go for his own gun and it went off and struck the person. Whether accidentally or on purpose. The friend said he saw blood after that first shot.
So if this is true, then I believe this 1st shot is where it all went wrong. Most likely all because of improper techniques of dealing with the guy.

I dont know why the officer would have been so close to the 2 people to where his door slammed into them when he opened the door but this doesnt sound like proper technique to allow to be so close as he was opening his door.
I also dont understand why the officer would have grabbed at the guy and I dont understand why the guy was shot with that 1st shot unless it was an accident as the officer tried to get his weapon out and point it at him while trying to hold him with his other hand.

It all is so confusing and this is just the friend saying a lot of this. I do think this early part of the indicent is where things went very wrong and improper techniques may have contributed. It doesnt sound like any commands of get back , lay on the ground, put your hands up, your under arrest, or anything like that was stated at first.
It sounds like just a confrontation got physical as the door was opened and officer grabbed him. According to friend of course.
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Here is what the PO told a friend about how it went down.

http://danaloeschradio.com/alleged-friend-of-officer-darren-wilson-offers-his-side/

and at 6:20 what someone who had no skin in the game said what happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdL9dqkyjhM&list=UUmhRp3o1thoxFB9VOrvzz3A

IMO, these two stories match.
 
I am very angry watching this presser.

I wonder if I could get the rest of the day off work so I can go protest, loot and riot about it.

Well now we know. Justice will not be served til Officer Wilson has been charged s sayeth the Browns, so mote it be.

Very angry right now.

No matter what evidence comes to light that shows the original narrative (young unarmed teen shot in back by big bad policeman) on this case was woefully inaccurate, there will not be peace.

There will be no peace til that officer is made to pay for a crime I don't think he has committed.

I just fell with a big ole thunk off the :fence: in light of the autopsy.

If Ferguson throws that officer under the bus to return calm to a community determined to bully authorities into a result they want I will absolutely lose my chit.

:cow:
 
Crump~ this preliminary autopsy answers important questions...now he know how many times he was shot and we now know it was in broad daylight....~


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tlcya said:
I am very angry watching this presser.
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Sometimes folks have to see it many many times to believe it (i.e. this presser is the perfect example, particularly Crump).

I would like to say I am surprised by the fiasco but honestly I am not. Have seen similar things too many times. It is very predictable.
 
Linda7NJ said:
Crump~ this preliminary autopsy answers important questions...now he know how many times he was shot and we now know it was in broad daylight....~


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Ha ha ha-- case solved!
 
We aren't going to start a bash fest on Crump or Biden. Against the rules. Just a gentle reminder.
 
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