MO MO - Janina 'Nina' Vasquez, 27, Kansas City, 12 Feb 2015

[cvaldez1975]

if she was in pain and having seizures, she probably used mj. it has benefits for both. idk if it is lefal in Missouri though. I know it is in CA and Colorado.

According to Johnson County records, it looks like there might have been a drug bust Janina was involved in. She was never charged in criminal court for this, but appears to owe taxes on a large amount of marijuana seized.

I too don't think it is a coincidence the mother posted that.

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[Arjuna25]

Can you link that local blog? This thing really looks CYA by LE bigtime. The fact that the 911 call wasn't known about by her family for a long time is big. Also, they were so vague about the red car, and come to find out they have CRYSTAL clear images of it.

 

[rotary_dial]

Can you link that local blog? This thing really looks CYA by LE bigtime. The fact that the 911 call wasn't known about by her family for a long time is big. Also, they were so vague about the red car, and come to find out they have CRYSTAL clear images of it.

Sorry for the very slow response, I didn't realize you had posted. Here's the link to the blog:
http://www.tonyskansascity.com/2015/07/tkc-breaking-and-exclusive-news-new_27.html?m=1

 

[rotary_dial]

Bump for Janina

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[MaxManning]

There is quite possibly a link between this case and the Toni Anderson case :

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...oni-Anderson-20-North-Kansas-City-15-Jan-2017

Toni had tweeted out a image of a search result in regards to how to disappear completely.


She mentions earlier on social media , while I believe living in Witchita Kansas, that she was busted for selling drugs an somehow avoided prison.


Now she is a missing person in a case that has alot of sketchiness involved and police showing resistance to releasing a dashcam video of her being pulled over and a cop is the last person to have seen her alive.


The suggestion that someone made in the Toni Anderson thread is that maybe she was a CI? That might have been the reason why she was potentially looking to disappear?


Is it possible that in both of these cases that drug arrests were used as leverage to have Toni/Janina become informants? Then as a result of somehow the people that they'd be informing on discover this and take action?


I'd hate to think that the police would have taken such actions, however, nothing really surprises me nowadays in terms of the potential for LE corruption so I wouldn't rule that out either.

A step forward might be trying to determine if there was a similar type of arrest in KC involving Toni and/or possibly even her boyfriend. I do believe that I have seen a picture of a warrant for his arrest before, maybe on a video on kc's local fox news. It was a warrant for drug related charge in Wichita Kansas. Maybe even the same case as with Toni.

Toni's family is said to be hiring a PI, this might be the kind of thing that money could go towards investigating.

 

[AceDetective]

[...]
Feb 19...Her body found in well in Kansas City, her jacket around her waist, cellphone +ID in her boots. Missing: bra, underwear,
socks,North Face backpack. She had a severe injury to the back of her head and fractures to her wrists.
[...]

Seems kinda obvious what happened here, doesn't it? She found herself with some psycho, dressed in a hurry when she thought she could get away, then ran away and tried to hide in this well. Didn't realize how far down it went.

What she said in the 911 call is critical info. Didn't she say how she ended up down there? How is it possible that all that is being reported is that there was a 911 call? What did she say!!!!???? They record 911 calls, don't they? Aren't they available through freedom of information?

 

[AceDetective]

So the narrative is as follows:
- Janina was last seen leaving the Isle of Capri Casino on Feb 12, 2015, @ 7:40pm, and entering a newer model RED 4dr sedan.
- This same car is seen entering the parking lot for Riverfront Park approximately 3 minutes later, 1/2 mile from the casino.
- Janina's body was found one week later in a Riverfront Park well by a maintenance worker. (source, but edited for clarity)

Bottom line, Janina and some guy she met at a casino ended up at this park. There are really only two options here:
- She tried to hide in the well.
- Bad guy dumped her in the well.

Her wrists were fractured. That indicates she was conscious when entering the well. Sure looks like she was trying to hide. Would a bad guy really dump a conscious woman in a well, a woman that can identify him, and just leave her there, with her cell phone?

It's possible there's a way Janina could have gotten in. It's even possible it was inadvertently left unlocked that night.

Months later police reveal that Janina dialed 911 from the well. Police attended the park, but the call dropped before they could find her, and they left. So tragic that she froze to death and was totally saveable. If only they would have searched a little harder, or gotten word to somebody who might have.

I see absolutely no reason to think she was a confidential informant or that had anything to do with this case.

 

[AceDetective]

I visited the site of Janina's tragic death using Google's streetview. There are multiple spots where a person could easily climb the fence. But why bother, when they can easily just slip through the gate? Here is a picture of the so-called "locked gate."

No mystery at all as to how Janina could have gotten into the fenced off area. Those gates are somewhat bendable, and a person could easily push their way through that gap. There is probably a chain holding the gates shut, and that chain would have play in it as well.

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[MaxManning]

So the narrative is as follows:
- Janina was last seen leaving the Isle of Capri Casino on Feb 12, 2015, @ 7:40pm, and entering a newer model RED 4dr sedan.
- This same car is seen entering the parking lot for Riverfront Park approximately 3 minutes later, 1/2 mile from the casino.
- Janina's body was found one week later in a Riverfront Park well by a maintenance worker. (source, but edited for clarity)

Bottom line, Janina and some guy she met at a casino ended up at this park. There are really only two options here:
- She tried to hide in the well.
- Bad guy dumped her in the well.

Her wrists were fractured. That indicates she was conscious when entering the well. Sure looks like she was trying to hide. Would a bad guy really dump a conscious woman in a well, a woman that can identify him, and just leave her there, with her cell phone?

It's possible there's a way Janina could have gotten in. It's even possible it was inadvertently left unlocked that night.

Months later police reveal that Janina dialed 911 from the well. Police attended the park, but the call dropped before they could find her, and they left. So tragic that she froze to death and was totally saveable. If only they would have searched a little harder, or gotten word to somebody who might have.

I see absolutely no reason to think she was a confidential informant or that had anything to do with this case.

I think it's plausible to think she could have went to hide. The gate is definitely something I could see someone squeezing through.

I want to see if we can get an idea of how easy/hard it wold be for her to get into that well. There was a grate that was mentioned in other posts. Could she get into the well and replace the grate? Or is she able to fit through the grate?

The mother says :

The well has a heavy steel grate over it, designed to prevent anything from falling in.

But she also made an assessment about the fence being locked/impenetrable by her, but at least from the images you have shown... seems plausible she could slip through.

The medical examiner hasn't released any information, but Cochran said she was told that Vasquez died almost immediately from a blow to the back of her head.

Interesting that she would be told that, and the 911 call was left out. What is the 911 call? what was said?

If she fell in the well and died instantly, she couldn't have made the call from in there. So knowing what's on the 911 call is important.

If she made the call outside the well, that clearly indicates danger imo.

How police ruled this an accident, is even something you have ruled out with your assessment.

What would be the reason to lie to the mother about the 911 call?

Did you see the drug arrest and related taxes in this thread released by the mother? She was never charged. So... if that is what typically happens when people avoid charges by becoming a CI -- how is it that you see absolutely no reason she might have been a CI? You don't have to do anything but look at facts to know that's how they get CIs. So, explain to me how she doesn't fit that profile

When things are sketchy, sometimes there's good reasons.

KCPD's child crimes unit was deemed incompetent earlier in the year. This has alot of similar themes if we simply note the failure to mention the 911 and deem it an accident. should i have faith in the people that made those decisions?

By the way , how does fractured wrists indicate she was conscious when entering the well? Not saying I believe one way or the other, but is there something that prevents bones from being fractured by hitting the sides of the wall or the bottom of the well in a given way? Was that just your assessment or did someone (medical examiner) state that?

also you say this :

"Would a bad guy really dump a conscious woman in a well, a woman that can identify him, and just leave her there, with her cell phone?"

I agree with that logic, however the cell phone and ID were in her boot. Is it possible that they didn't even know she had them on her at that point?

Also, wouldn't the 911 call be what helps us understand if she was in the well or not at that time? if the 911 call is from outside the well, I fail to see how this gets deemed an accident.

I agree she was possibly looking to hide. The area is also really close to a walkway, so she might have been running along that and seen the gate as potentially an escape route to hid.

But again, my issue is that how police EVER deemed this a accident, and think 911 call is important to hear to provide context.

sketchy imo as is. thus the CI aspect is still alive in my mind.

 

[policyoftruth501]

So much that doesn't make sense or add up in this case, and now there's the case of Toni Anderson. If there's sketchy LE involved I doubt the truth will ever come out unless the state attorney's office or department of justice get involved. JMO.


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[AceDetective]

The grate over the well is mostly air. It's fairly light weight, and it is just dropped into place. It would be easy to insert your fingers and simply lift it.

Here's a google view of it: (link)

The well structure is easily climbable because there's a ladder on the side of it.
I can't get a google view of the ladder, but there's another similar structure at the other end of the park, and here's a view of the ladder on that one: (link)

(By the way the similar well structure at the other end of the park looks to have better fencing and the grate looks bolted down.)

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It's interesting to me how the story of how she couldn't possibly have done this to herself just falls completely apart upon examination. The locked gate she couldn't possibly have got past turns out to be flimsy and with a gap. The structure she couldn't possibly have climbed onto has a ladder! And the impossible to remove grate is just lightweight and easily removed.

The well structure is only 6 feet tall on the outside. There is no way to tell from the outside that it is 25 feet tall on the inside. It is entirely possible that a person who removed the grate and climbed in would think they had an easy drop if they lowered themselves in. They also could have been looking inside and simply fell in. This is especially easy to imagine if drugs or alcohol were involved.

This does look like an accident. It's kind of absurd to suggest that somebody tried to murder somebody by pushing them into a well structure that looked 6 feet deep.

 

[CaseRavel]

I actually visited the exact spot about a year and a half ago and could not find a way in, but can say another grate on the outside (by the river path) was not heavy, but seemed stuck. As far as I can recall, I could not pull it out. The well was quite some distance from the parking lot. It took us some time to get there, like a long conversation/stroll. I actually rolled my ankle on the way out there. Its in no way somewhere I would "accidentally" end up.

 

[CastlesBurning]

Bumping for Nina, as we approach the 5th anniversary of her death