Another point i think about is the so called two boys standing in the parking lot as mr. byrd left...remember mr byrd never mentioned them until chuck and ryan had been arrested two years later...so the last version of mr byrd was as he was walking thru the parking lot in the middle of the night there were two white boys standing near the dumpster and he thought they looked fine, not up to anything...but a few hours later when he heard his "friend" and coworker had been beaten to death, in that parking lot, minutes after seeing those two white boys, he did not mention it? strange........and according to chucks police induced version...Chuck says,....he and ryan went looking for someone to rob...they come into this parking lot and watch a white man, mr. byrd walk across the parking lot....they then watch a few minutes later the victim come into the parking lot...they wait for all this activity to subside and then sneak up on the bigger of the two and hit him from the rear...not consistent really with the evidence...my question is, if these two were desperate to rob and return to the bar, (which had closed by then) why didn't they attack Mr. Byrd? why did they wait around a few minutes for another victim they had no reason to believe even existed...i mean if they would attack a 6'3" 315 lb mr heitholt, why not a somewhat shorter and somewhat lighter mr. Byrd? it makes no sense...one of the many things....i am convince this was a personal attack, not a robbery....there had to be easier victims to rob walking about on halloween night...and one other point...wonder if Ryan had an atm card and a checking balance? i know he was 17 but i had a checking acct at 16...so if he had access to money, why not bring that out in court? i don;t know the answer to that question.