GUILTY MO - Randy Greenman, 39, & George Whitter, 36, St. Louis, 30 Aug 2007

[SuziQ]

I thought about the Streeter case. It's been so many years I doubt it's involved.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Kara Kopetsky from Belton isn't that far either.

 

[MissouriLady]

Maybe today someone's family will finally get answers. My first thought was Jasmine Haslag, missing from Callaway county.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50784

 

[KaylynnCouture]

Kara Kopetesky from Belton isn't that far either.

That was my first thought as well.

I hope the bodies are identified soon, and the families get some closure.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

Detectives find corpse on property in Ste. Genevieve County

St. Louis County police detectives found human remains on a property in Ste. Genevieve County where they had dug for evidence Thursday, authorities said.

An investigator with the St. Louis County Medical Examiner's office said the remains had been examined, but that a cause of death had not been determined. He declined to identify the person or discuss other findings.


St. Louis County Police have been mum about the investigation, which led them to St. Mary, about 73 miles south of St. Louis. A source said investigators were searching for the remains of a St. Louis County man who had been missing for over a year.

It appeared the search was related to an ongoing probe into allegations of drug trafficking by an outlaw motorcycle gang known as the Invaders.
Several members of the gang were indicted in federal court in St. Louis in January on charges of distributing marijuana.

Thursday's search was conducted on land that, until recently, had been owned by the parents of a man accused by federal authorities as being a member of the gang -- Stephen P. "Sticky Steve" Morris.

More: http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne...E0BDD5A02CC496F4862575A2007E2B9A?OpenDocument

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Thanks! It doesn't tell us much, but enough to try to figure out who he could be.

 

[Bobbisangel]

I always hold out hope for Amanda Jones to be found.

St. Mary.s MO is 1 1/2 hour from Hillsboro.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=st.+m...&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=us

It's probably not her but I have no idea who is missing in that area.

I wish it would be Amanda. At least her parents could lay her to rest and have a place to go and put flowers, etc. I just hope and pray that she is found one of these days. I don't want Bryan W to get away with murder and so far he has.

 

[Bobbisangel]

I thought of Teresa Butler when I read this, she's been missing for over 3 years now from southeast Mo.
I've been to St Marys a small quiet place where there is a big antique mall, very rural. I hope they're able to find what they're looking for!

VB

I wish that Teresa would be found too. Her and Amanda are two ladies that I have not forgotten. Teresa left two little boys behind and Amanda left her little girl and the baby who was ready to be born. They are out there somewhere. They didn't just vanish into thin air. They deserve justice darn it.

Sounds like it is a man that they found

 

[SuziQ]

I think it might be this guy. The circumstances of his disappearance doesn't fit though. Sounds like he drowned IMO.

http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/gallery/ncmaprofile_all.php?A200705416S

ETA: he's the only man I see missing from St Louis County

 

[dhchick04]

No one from Jefferson County(where I live) is missing, currently that I am aware of.

Wish Amanda would be found.

 

[black poodle]

i live in missouri any more news on this?

 

[SuziQ]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518761,00.html

(snips)
Law enforcement officers are investigating a motorcycle gang called the Invaders in connection with the 2007 deaths of two St. Louis-area men and the disappearance of the third.
The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported Sunday that court documents showed that for more than a year investigators have suspected members of the gang of killing 39-year-old Randy Greenman, and 36-year-old George Whitter.

The newspaper also disclosed a Drug Enforcement Administration affidavit accusing two Invaders of the 2007 presumed murder of a 61-year-old gang member, possibly for cooperating with authorities.

 

[SuziQ]

Very well written, detailed article at the below link:

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne...5DD59FF294509BED862575AA00132A0F?OpenDocument

 

[SuziQ]

An article on Whittier and Greenman's disappearance from Sept 2007

Investigators continue search for men missing since August


http://www.kmov.com/localnews/stories/kmov_localnews_070923_missing.10378b72a.html

 

[scandi]

I just read some comments on this site, and someone knows the guy who was indicted earlier this year who lived on the property being searched.
Says he was part of a biker group called Invaders Motorcycle Group.

I found this info about several indictments from St. Louis and Jefferson counties in Missouri: http://hellsangelroadmaster.blogspot.com/2009/02/invaders-motorcycle-club-stephen.html

Does anyone know of anyone missing around Jefferson county, Missouri or Ste. Genevieve, Missouri?
Anyone related to any biker groups/gangs?

the post came from this news site about the owner of the property being searched ... it's in the comments section below the article:
http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=173389&catid=3

Kara Kopetsky from Belton isn't that far either.

Hi, In that raw footage video of today's search it looks like they totally zoned into one spot and dug it out deep and wide. If this is where the busted biker said someone was buried I would bet these deaths {2 bodies found, right?} are related to that biker group. Somehow drugs seem like a possibility.

I wish for those of you hoping it to be someone you have sleuthed here, that it could be one of them.

In this part of the country which I think is close to Springfield, I always have great hope these missing people will still be alive. It is where the miracle of Ben Ownby and Shawn Hornbeck happened. I will never forget that happy day. :blowkiss:

 

[SuziQ]

Possible memorial video for Randy Greenman. There are alot of bar pics in the video, and the Kansas City Star states that he used to manage a bar in South St. Louis. I'm still watching the vid and trying to connect the dots:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=30830221

ETA: the person who put the memorial video up is from Missouri, has other vids of The Cardinals, and a concert in ST. Louis. So this may very well be the same Randy Greenman. Also the pics in the video progress to July of 2007 and Randy went missing in Aug of 2007.

 

[SuziQ]

Myspace page made for George Whittier:

http://www.myspace.com/239951594

 

[OkieGranny]

From August 2010:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_6e3ecc60-8a88-5653-9bba-1e0c18aec8f2.html

Pressure on defendants in a federal marijuana investigation appears to have shaken loose the answers to the mysterious disappearances of three St. Louis-area men in 2007.

St. Louis County Prosecutor Bob McCulloch on Tuesday announced murder charges against five members of a motorcycle gang known as the Invaders...

Little had been a member of the gang, but Greenman and Whitter were not. Greenman, however, had been involved in the marijuana distribution scheme and had been summoned to Boroughf's house along Sappington Barracks Road the night of his slaying, McCulloch said. Once there, Boroughf and Oswalt shot Greenman and discovered Whitter was waiting in Greenman's car. Whitter had hitched a ride home with Greenman, so they killed him, too.

From January 2013:

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_38932e83-b788-58e1-ac2b-b2e4f2e3027d.html

[Herman] Oswalt, now 66, pleaded guilty Nov. 29 to numerous charges including murder, armed criminal action, arson and hindering a prosecution. He was sentenced to 25 years in prison...

Another member of the gang, Edward "Special Ed" Boroughf... pleaded guilty last January in St. Louis County Circuit Court to murdering three men and was sentenced to three 30-year terms to run concurrently.