Identified! MO - St Louis, WhtMale Infant, UP60144, mummified in freezer in residence, disposable diaper, Winnie the Pooh onesie, wrapped in pink blanket, Jul'19

[Susikatze]

But it should have always been the parents' decision to make. I don't understand how anyone could have thought the decision should be made for them.

After all, if we need a place to grieve the loss of an older baby/child/person, then we need it for our newborn. (Not arguing with you at all, just saying it's unbelievable to me how things were - and sometimes still are. Change in society and thinking happens too slowly at times.)

It was a taboo topic like unwed pregnancy. They did everything to keep the perfect image of society up.
Hey, my own grandmother only secretly confessed to her sons shortly before she died that she had two miscarriages. Nobody ever spoke about them.

 

[Laughing]

It was a taboo topic like unwed pregnancy. They did everything to keep the perfect image of society up.
Hey, my own grandmother only secretly confessed to her sons shortly before she died that she had two miscarriages. Nobody ever spoke about them.

Miscarriage is difficult to talk about, at least for me, and mine was very early. This was in 1992, tears in my eyes right now thinking about the experience. My 1994-born healthy adult male child learned of this within the last year or so. Perhaps I would have shared more with a female child?

The mother is grieving the child, but since (in some cases) she wasn't recognizably pregnant others are generally not aware of her grief. imho, Dads in the US are even less prepared for this.

So -- imho this Mom had no example to follow, no model of How To Handle A Late-Term Stillbirth. She created a path, and imho we are in no position to judge her jmho.

imho medical & cultural practice has advanced since this woman, and I, experienced our losses.

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[Susikatze]

Miscarriage is difficult to talk about, at least for me, and mine was very early. This was in 1992, tears in my eyes right now thinking about the experience. My 1994-born healthy adult male child learned of this within the last year or so. Perhaps I would have shared more with a female child?

The mother is grieving the child, but since (in some cases) she wasn't recognizably pregnant others are generally not aware of her grief. imho, Dads in the US are even less prepared for this.

So -- imho this Mom had no example to follow, no model of How To Handle A Late-Term Stillbirth. She created a path, and imho we are in no position to judge her jmho.

imho medical & cultural practice has advanced since this woman, and I, experienced our losses.

jmho ymmv lrr

I agree. I also had a twin miscarriage so i agree with every single one of your words.
This woman probably put the baby in the freezer to wait for an opportunity to give him a decent burial. Which was not available in the 60s yet so she waited. And waited and when the opportunity for burial finally came, she may have been embarrassed about her choice and too old or sick to take action. Also probably hard to explain to the funeral home and to admit the baby never was registered and kept frozen so long.

Jmoo

 

[Dreacol23]

If the baby was stillborn, I wonder how the mom was able to still take the baby home? Wouldn’t the hospital take the baby from her?

 

[Goecke]

If the baby was stillborn, I wonder how the mom was able to still take the baby home? Wouldn’t the hospital take the baby from her?

I assume the baby wasn't born in a hospital. The clothes, diaper etc indicate to me that she knew she was pregnant, but it could be that she went into labor suddenly and gave birth at home. I've personally never heard of a newborn UID case where it was revealed the baby was born in a hospital.

Very sad case overall. I wonder if this baby was born before or after the twins, one of which was stillborn. If she already had a stillborn and was treated poorly/unable to properly greive it makes more sense that she might do something like this if it happened again.

 

[Laughing]

If the baby was stillborn, I wonder how the mom was able to still take the baby home? Wouldn’t the hospital take the baby from her?

imho, she delivered this baby at home, possibly alone & possibly with help from a sister/neighbor. jmho

If a hospital delivery, I would expect the remains to be embalmed & in a container from a funeral home, if available to the mother in any form.

Again, jmho.

ymmv lrr

 

[Springrain]

I'm guessing that she went into a very short labor and couldn't make it to the hospital in time. Not horribly uncommon. It's a horribly sad outcome.