MT MT - Northern Cheyenne Reservation, NtvMale Late Teen/Young Adult, UP12251, Skull & femur, Sep'03

[anthrobones]

http://doenetwork.org/cases/849ummt.html

Unidentified Native Male

• The victim was discovered in Montana, on the Northern Cheyenne Indian Reservation in the fall of 2003
• State of Remains: Skull and femur only

Vital Statistics

• Estimated age: Young

Case History
The skull and femur of this male was located in the fall of 2003 in an area several miles west of Lame Deer, Montana, on the Northern Cheyenne Indian Reservation.

 

[Kimster]

http://doenetwork.org/cases/849ummt.html

 

[Donjeta]

There is only one Native American male from MT listed on Namus
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/11365/49/
He is five hours away.
MT MT - John Reamer, 25, Helena, 27 March 1994 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
None from Wyoming, ND or SD.

 

[Kimster]

http://doenetwork.org/cases/849ummt.html

I don't see any resemblance, but our doe only had a skull and femur that were located.

 

[buffetoflies]

Are they sure this isn't old Indian remains?

 

[Jacie Estes]

I'm wondering if it was dentition or bone marrow that helped to determine race/ethnicity ?

http://www.ashi-hla.org/images/uploads/2012MexicoWSFINAL.pdf

 

[Jacie Estes]

Are they sure this isn't old Indian remains?

I wish there was more info about these remains. Here is the link to a website that I used in Anthropology classes, it may answer questions.

Estimating Time of Death
The first question to be asked and probably the most difficult to answer is "how long has it been dead?" Bones do not decay as skin and soft tissue do, but they are subject to weathering and scatter (taphonomy). Animal scattering of bones can destroy the context of the crime scene and gnaw marks destroy actual bone. If a body is buried, insects canot get at it, but micro-organisms can. The acidity of soil will have an effect on bone.

TOD estimates based on environmental factors are from research in Tennessee as follows:
3 weeks -- articulated bones
5 weeks -- some scatter, some articulated
4 months -- disarticulated, within 10' circle
7 to 8 months -- most bones w/in 10' circle and all w/in 20'
1 year -- small bones missing, complete disarticulation
2 to 4 years -- some bones broken, scatterd 40', some large bones missing
12+ years -- bone rot; partial burial*
15 to 20 years -- no surface evidence
* partial burial from leaves, storms, erosion from shallow burial




http://www.anthro4n6.net/forensics/

 

[emeraldine]

If one of the bones they found was a femur, I'm surprised they didn't try to estimate this UID's height.

I'm not seeing any information about how old they think the bones are, and "young" can be a relative term when it comes to estimating a person's age - but, IMO, this missing man from Ontario very strongly resembles the reconstruction. The forehead and cheekbones, especially, are identical.

http://doenetwork.org/cases/1429dmon.html

It seems that McKay was killed in the aftermath of a bar fight, probably at the same location he was last seen in...but, people will go to all sorts of lengths to conceal a murder, including driving 17 hours and into another country(plus, it was much easier to cross the CA/US border in 1987/8).

 

[rats]

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/12251 here's his NamUs! No rule outs yet.

 

[Gardener1850]

Current NAMUS link says he was found Sept 2003: The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[breachtones]

there are some cases that need a better reconstruction so badly. what on earth is this, it looks like a 50-70 year old man! not an 18-25 year old guy.

 

[John/Jane Doe]

there are some cases that need a better reconstruction so badly. what on earth is this, it looks like a 50-70 year old man! not an 18-25 year old guy.

I say the same, @CarlK90245 could help in doing a better reconstruction for this John Doe I don't know what he thinks.

 

[iulia]

The NamUs page for this UID is down.

 

[CarlK90245]

Doe Network has him flagged as "Identified"

 

[cheemsg]

Any update on who he was?

 

[DS2021]

Othram just announced an ID for another MT doe. I wonder if they assisted in this one