Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #15

[zelmajane]

EXCELLENT point! Yes, summer nights in NC (esp this summer) have been quite warm. Some nights it doesn't get any lower than 73 degrees. My AC comes on in the middle of the night. Wearing a jacket is totally not necessary...I doubt I'll wear one until October, at the very earliest.

Especially someone from Canada! They're the ones that crank the AC on 65 in the summer.

 

[raisincharlie]

Star & Gigi Mars

I was hoping someone would answer your question that had more understanding of the vic cards than I do but basically what Mom said last night on the radio was:

Brad was spotted at the Harris Teeter sometime recently. He apparently went up to the area where the Managers office is and wanted copies of data showing what had been purchased on the Saturday morning that Nancy went missing. Apparently the vic card is a card used when purchasing items that provides discounts on some items.

So long story short - Brad was getting copies of receipts for the items he purchased on the morning that Nancy went missing.


Hope I have explained this properly. Mom if I have not - please correct .

 

[Star12]

Star & Gigi Mars

I was hoping someone would answer your question that had more understanding of the vic cards than I do but basically what Mom said last night on the radio was:

Brad was spotted at the Harris Teeter sometime recently. He apparently went up to the area where the Managers office is and wanted copies of data showing what had been purchased on the Saturday morning that Nancy went missing. Apparently the vic card is a card used when purchasing items that provides discounts on some items.

So long story short - Brad was getting copies of receipts for the items he purchased on the morning that Nancy went missing.


Hope I have explained this properly. Mom if I have not - please correct .

Thanks, Bubba. I'm wondering if his attorneys asked him to do that? Cheaper for the client if he does some of the work himself

 

[raisincharlie]

Thanks, Bubba. I'm wondering if his attorneys asked him to do that? Cheaper for the client if he does some of the work himself

:floorlaugh:


ETA - Brad would like the cheap part I think.

 

[momto3kids]

Perfect RC...you described the VIC card wonderful and what transpired.:clap:

The only 2 things that can really be a drawback on this situation is....
if he didn't use the VIC card for the earlier purchase
or if the Cooper's happened to have 2 different VIC numbers.

It is very possible to have 2 numbers after 8 yrs of shopping at HT and there are many ways this could have happened. Not purposely, but certain circumstances had them with 2 total different numbers.

We have more than 1 VIC number. This would not be at all unusual to find out this occured as well.

 

[SleuthyGal]

Yep! Items purchased and recorded on the Vic card are but one log, if you will. And perhaps it's not all that important, I dunno. The real question is if he was 'seen' via video and/or via eyewitness at that store earlier than 6am.

 

[raisincharlie]

Perfect RC...you described the VIC card wonderful and what transpired.:clap:

The only 2 things that can really be a drawback on this situation is....
if he didn't use the VIC card for the earlier purchase
or if the Cooper's happened to have 2 different VIC numbers.

It is very possible to have 2 numbers after 8 yrs of shopping at HT and there are many ways this could have happened. Not purposely, but certain circumstances had them with 2 total different numbers.

We have more than 1 VIC number. This would not be at all unusual to find out this occured as well.

Mt3K,

This vic card thing, I know in my neck of the woods we have a similar program at the stores. I'm curious if you know how HT does this. My wife got a card and a smaller card that attaches to a key ring. She has both so if i have to run to the store I just don't have it unless I take her car and keys. Do you know how many cards and key ring cards are issued when one signs up at HT?

 

[SleuthyGal]

Do you know how many cards and key ring cards are issued when one signs up at HT?

I believe it's 1 card & 2 key rings

 

[Sewing_Buddy]

Mt3K,

This vic card thing, I know in my neck of the woods we have a similar program at the stores. I'm curious if you know how HT does this. My wife got a card and a smaller card that attaches to a key ring. She has both so if i have to run to the store I just don't have it unless I take her car and keys. Do you know how many cards and key ring cards are issued when one signs up at HT?

In addition to using the cards, we can also type in our phone number on the key pad and it gives us the "rewards" (discount price).

 

[Bob&Bob]

In addition to using the cards, we can also type in our phone number on the key pad and it gives us the "rewards" (discount price).

I think I'm deeply in love.

 

[Bob&Bob]

On the Photos No discussion thread post #2,
does anyone know the names of all of the men in the picture?

Also, does anyone know why sometimes the pictures show up
in the thread and sometimes they just have the link?

Thanks.

 

[raisincharlie]

Okay so I can rule out thinking that maybe Brad had Nancy's keys.

I think it will be an interesting analysis by LE to check those records (VIC) to see how many times the card or phone number entry corresponding to Nancy & Brad's account shows up as being used between 6 and 7 a.m. It will also be interesting to see how many times the account is accessed twice in a one hour time frame in the early hours of the day. As to Brad, if it is that he is a good planner, one has to ask why he is such a scatter brain that he has to go to the store twice in an hour.

 

[Sewing_Buddy]

Okay so I can rule out thinking that maybe Brad had Nancy's keys.

I think it will be an interesting analysis by LE to check those records (VIC) to see how many times the card or phone number entry corresponding to Nancy & Brad's account shows up as being used between 6 and 7 a.m. It will also be interesting to see how many times the account is accessed twice in a one hour time frame in the early hours of the day. As to Brad, if it is that he is a good planner, one has to ask why he is such a scatter brain that he has to go to the store twice in an hour.

Couldn't the store check their records (not just Brad's VIC record) to see how many people purchased items..in particular laundry detergent, at 4am that day? It couldn't be THAT many people, could it?

 

[raisincharlie]

Couldn't the store check their records (not just Brad's VIC record) to see how many people purchased items..in particular laundry detergent, at 4am that day? It couldn't be THAT many people, could it?

I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be difficult to figure out what was purchased in the overnight hours, either by register or on the self check out. Since the info is out there, I'm pretty sure LE has or will be doing exactly that.

 

[raisincharlie]

I've been thinking about the North Face jacket mom mentioned a couple of days ago......she didn't come right out and say it but, I'm assuming he was seen wearing one in the store video tape and/or possibly an employee(s) remembered that detail. I didn't think too much of it at the time she mentioned it but, today it dawned on me......why the heck would he be wearing a jacket in July? If NC weather is anywhere near like it is here......it's too dang hot for a jacket, even at night.

I know it was discussed about him wearing long sleeve shirts in summer but then I think we pretty much came to the conclusion maybe it wasn't that unusual since we noticed, in photos of the detectives coming out of the Cooper's residence, that they too had on long sleeves.

In regards to wearing a jacket on a summer night.......maybe he was trying to cover up something after all......especially if his arms were scratched up before he started searching for her.

I am also wondering if he was wearing a cap. The jacket thing, if he was wearing it at 420 am may have been the reason someone remembered seeing him in the store at that time to begin with. Staff in the store at that time may have wondered the same thing or been a bit suspicious of someone wearing a jacket, albeit a lightweight one. Within a day or so his mug was on tv because of his missing wife, connect the dots.

 

[SleuthyGal]

Couldn't the store check their records (not just Brad's VIC record) to see how many people purchased items..in particular laundry detergent, at 4am that day? It couldn't be THAT many people, could it?

At 4am - 6am on that Saturday morning I bet it was one person purchasing laundry detergent.

 

[Fairy1]

At 4am - 6am on that Saturday morning I bet it was one person purchasing laundry detergent.

Yep - and only one person in the store wearing a jacket. Possibly to hide the scratches on his arms - JMO! The same scratches he was hiding wearing long sleeves while searching for his wife.

 

[SusieClue]

Yep - and only one person in the store wearing a jacket. Possibly to hide the scratches on his arms - JMO! The same scratches he was hiding wearing long sleeves while searching for his wife.

See, I think that a long sleeved shirt would have been enough to cover the scratches...but a jacket might have been necessary (as some have said) to cover the blood on his shirt after he dumped her and realized he didn't have laundry detergent to clean it...

 

[Fairy1]

See, I think that a long sleeved shirt would have been enough to cover the scratches...but a jacket might have been necessary (as some have said) to cover the blood on his shirt after he dumped her and realized he didn't have laundry detergent to clean it...

Could definitely be. Whatever the case, long sleeves of any kind have set off the hinky meters of many. I am pinning all my hopes on the possibility that there was evidence (ie - DNA) under Nancy's nails and that LE is waiting for those results to come back to make their move. How long does it take????

 

[ncnative]

So, Brad went back to the HT to get a record of his VIC usage. If I were he, and in the spotlight whether I killed NC or not, I'd be anxious about going out in public. I would not want to go into that HT after all the publicity, knowing I'd (he'd) be stared at, probably pointed at and recognized by many. Maybe it doesn't bother him, but it would bother me if I were in his shoes.

It would be more entertaining to have Kurtz & Blum go in there together, with Brad in tow, TV cameras rolling. Kurtz & Blum could do their little lawyer strut they learned from the OJ Simpson coverage, head held back, chin too high, smirky confidence across the mouth, like they did at the courthouse that day.