GUILTY NC - Jason Corbett, 39, murdered in his Wallburg home, 2 Aug 2015 #5

[searchinGirl]

Although that autopsy sure reads to me like a "maniac" was wielding those weapons, this is my IPad on auto-correct. Thanks for pointing that out though.

My friend who is bipolar came for a visit recently. The entire time she was here she worried about sleeping because she was out of ambien; she can't take trazodone. She says her mind never stops. I am never concerned about her hurting anyone but herself. She's not a rageaholic. She's a mother to three grown children. She's confusing but not violent. She's struggles to cope as best she can and sometimes it shows. She's learned to tell people how she is feeling. She's not manipulative in the sense of trying to control anyone. I'm only sharing this because perceptions about bipolar disorder are different for almost everyone. It's not necessarily a precursor to violent behavior. IMO

 

[Be true]

Not on Twitter searching from chrome. Saw this.

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[stephanddoody]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/cri...-murder-trial-begins-jury-selection-1.3158643

Three jurors were dismissed Monday as one was not a citizen of the United States, while another moved moved to nearby Forsyth County.
Finally, a third juror was dismissed after lying to prosecutors under oath regarding her criminal history. After a series of questions asked by Assistant District Attorney Alan Martin, the pool of potential jurors was cut to 140.

I see Mona and Mike are attending but Mollys friend has decided not to attend court today .

 

[stmarysmead]

My friend who is bipolar came for a visit recently. The entire time she was here she worried about sleeping because she was out of ambien; she can't take trazodone. She says her mind never stops. I am never concerned about her hurting anyone but herself. She's not a rageaholic. She's a mother to three grown children. She's confusing but not violent. She's struggles to cope as best she can and sometimes it shows. She's learned to tell people how she is feeling. She's not manipulative in the sense of trying to control anyone. I'm only sharing this because perceptions about bipolar disorder are different for almost everyone. It's not necessarily a precursor to violent behavior. IMO

You are correct. My extended family members who have a daughter with bipolar disease were told by her Drs that there are many "levels" of bipolar disease. It is not one size fits all.

Maginn's book gives us insight into the severity of Mollys disease. He also mentions that she suffered from insomnia, days without sleeping. That alone can cause pyschosis. Additionally, she felt people found her ugly, despised her. That sounds like paranoia.

Molly had numerous medical issues which had her taking a "cocktail" of many medicines; any new medicine could cause her medicines for her bipolar disease to stop working.

We do not know type of care or medications MM received in thevyears to follow. But her complicated medical state could not just disappear.

We know her husband was murdered with an overkill that is undeniable. That type of killing, soclose uo, so involved in the suffering, is not done a functional human being, IMO. I believe Molly suffers from more, much more, than a mild variation of bipolar disease.

 

[Be true]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/cri...-murder-trial-begins-jury-selection-1.3158643



I see Mona and Mike attended but Mollys friend has decided not to attend court today .

Perhaps she hadn't anticipated the huge media interest. Which with a job such as the one she has, may highlight her somewhat unethical behaviour on public forums or the charges of 2nd degree Murder being announced as the standing charge.
Also as the trial goes on we may see who distances themselves from the Martens especially when pictures of Jason's injuries are shown in the court room.

Imo

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[searchinGirl]

Perhaps she hadn't anticipated the huge media interest. Which with a job such as the one she has, may highlight her somewhat unethical behaviour on public forums or the charges of 2nd degree Murder being announced as the standing charge.
Also as the trial goes on we may see who distances themselves from the Martens especially when pictures of Jason's injuries are shown in the court room.

Imo

<modsnip> is she the one that testified in a previous hearing that The Sheriff's Office misquoted her?

 

[stephanddoody]

[video=twitter;887326600173424640]https://twitter.com/MalloryLaneWXII/status/887326600173424640[/video]

[video=twitter;887328225789169664]https://twitter.com/MalloryLaneWXII/status/887328225789169664[/video]

 

[emmalpage81]

I agree there is no real standard for levels of bi-polar. The same with any illness. I found this post by a sufferer to be an interesting read http://www.bphope.com/blog/three-bipolar-disorder-symptoms-no-one-wants-to-talk-about/

It seems there is a link between some bi-polar sufferers with rage and violence.

All IMO

 

[stephanddoody]

I agree there is no real standard for levels of bi-polar. The same with any illness. I found this post by a sufferer to be an interesting read http://www.bphope.com/blog/three-bipolar-disorder-symptoms-no-one-wants-to-talk-about/

It seems there is a link between some bi-polar sufferers with rage and violence.

All IMO

Great insight thanks very much Emma

Here&#8217;s the good news- yes, there is good news!

[FONT=&amp]Bipolar disorder is an episodic illness. We have all of our symptoms while in a mood swing. This means we are STABLE when we are not in a mood swing. The symptoms I list above usually go away when the illness is successfully managed. It can take regular monitoring for those of us who have daily symptoms. Others who have long breaks between mood swings may even forget the symptoms even existed. This is why we must have a management plan that can recognize the dangerous, aggressive and violent behavior, psychosis and cognitive impairment as soon as it begins.[/FONT]
[FONT=&amp]I know we want to protect our reputations around this illness. We don&#8217;t want to be seen as different or freaks. But I ask that within our community, we get brutally honest about what really happens to those of us with the illness. It&#8217;s the ONLY way to stop the symptoms and make them stay away forever![/FONT]

[FONT=&quot] People, both men and women who are mild mannered and kind when well, get super human strength along with the aggression- ripping a sink out of the wall- punching through windows- throwing chairs and other dangerous behavior are not uncommon.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Families and partners suffer in silence because they are scared to tell anyone about what really goes on at home.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I have violent and HOMICIDAL thoughts when the dysphoric mania is raging. I used to chase down cars if the driver flipped me off or made a strange face. It is not my goal to scare anyone reading this blog. It&#8217;s my goal that we are honest about these hidden and pushed under the rug symptoms of bipolar disorder.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The solution is management. People with bipolar disorder do not have these symptoms unless the mood swings are raging. Prevent the mood swings and you can prevent the dangerous, aggressive and violent behavior.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]If you have bipolar disorder one, there is a 70% chance of full on psychosis when you are in a full blown manic episode. This [/FONT]psychosis[FONT=&quot] can be very bizarre and mimic schizophrenia. The difference? People with bipolar disorder only have psychosis during a manic or depressed mood swing. There is no psychosis outside of depression or mania. If a person has psychosis in between episodes, this is called schizo affective disorder. Do you or your loved ones have psychosis? If bipolar disorder is involved, psychosis could be involved as well.[/FONT]

 

[Logic-lady]

Do we know if the judge granted the motion about preventing the prosecution from referring to Jason as peaceful?

 

[Logic-lady]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/cri...-murder-trial-begins-jury-selection-1.3158643



I see Mona and Mike are attending but Mollys friend has decided not to attend court today .

Slightly off topic, but it must be so hard to be sitting there for jury selection knowing that your future is literally in these people's hands....and then they lie?! They must have their hearts in their mouths. This decision is so important!

 

[searchinGirl]

You are correct. My extended family members who have a daughter with bipolar disease were told by her Drs that there are many "levels" of bipolar disease. It is not one size fits all.

Maginn's book gives us insight into the severity of Mollys disease. He also mentions that she suffered from insomnia, days without sleeping. That alone can cause pyschosis. Additionally, she felt people found her ugly, despised her. That sounds like paranoia.

Molly had numerous medical issues which had her taking a "cocktail" of many medicines; any new medicine could cause her medicines for her bipolar disease to stop working.

We do not know type of care or medications MM received in thevyears to follow. But her complicated medical state could not just disappear.

We know her husband was murdered with an overkill that is undeniable. That type of killing, soclose uo, so involved in the suffering, is not done a functional human being, IMO. I believe Molly suffers from more, much more, than a mild variation of bipolar disease.

While I agree her medical state couldn't disappear, there are plenty of other diagnoses that could account for her behavior in relationship with the former boyfriend/fiancé including addiction. I think bipolar usually has additional related conditions treated too, like ADHD, depression, personality disorders that could be violent. I know of one diagnosed bipolar that underwent shock treatments. None of this may be relevant to the proceedings IMO. We will see.

At first I thought dropping the manslaughter charge meant not including the lesser offences and that excessive force would not be an issue. But, I have read in the jury instructions that even if they find the defendant acted in self-defense but used excessive force, they can convict on manslaughter. Molly's role in the actual injuries inflicted is not at all clear. If her hands didn't reveal abrasions, bruising or swelling, I'm having doubt that she could have inflicted those injuries with the brick. I can only conclude that TM must be responsible for the majority of JC injuries. IMO

I have always heard about self defense that when confronted by deadly force, deadly force can be returned. Being a desktop law enforcement officer, duly trained in self defense might actually explain the overkill and not lead to more sinister questions. IMO

 

[searchinGirl]

Slightly off topic, but it must be so hard to be sitting there for jury selection knowing that your future is literally in these people's hands....and then they lie?! They must have their hearts in their mouths. This decision is so important!

What lie are you speaking about?

 

[Pocono Sleuther]

Let's all keep in mind that it's highly possible that MMC was over medicated for her issues as well. Depending upon which drugs she was taking daily, of course. It sounds like she was primarily manic to me. That would lend itself to a bit of a predisposition to control issues...like anger. The norepinephrine in many SNRI medications can push a persons anger to the edge. I'm not blaming the meds but am offering some insight.


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[emmalpage81]

What lie are you speaking about?

It was said one of the potential jurors was caught lying about the extent of her criminal history.

All IMO

 

[Logic-lady]

Let's all keep in mind that it's highly possible that MMC was over medicated for her issues as well. Depending upon which drugs she was taking daily, of course. It sounds like she was primarily manic to me. That would lend itself to a bit of a predisposition to control issues...like anger. The norepinephrine in many SNRI medications can push a persons anger to the edge. I'm not blaming the meds but am offering some insight.


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If a person was manic and over medicated, and then they suddenly came off all medication do you know what kind of effect this could have? (Just wondering as you seem to have a good knowledge of the pharmaceutical side of things)

 

[kittythehare]

Slightly off topic, but it must be so hard to be sitting there for jury selection knowing that your future is literally in these people's hands....and then they lie?! They must have their hearts in their mouths. This decision is so important!

That was a bit of a shock wasn't it?
I was a tad annoyed to see that on Irish Times artile this morning when journalists are meant to be live tweeting.
In the dylan Roof case.. each and every potential juror was reported upon.
I was expecting the same and not only disappointed but also disillusioned. Its not a secret. Its an open process.. No reason for editing. No reason to censor or save for their main 'tabloid' stories.
Its unfortunate. Its either live tweeting or its not.

 

[searchinGirl]

It was said one of the potential jurors was caught lying about the extent of her criminal history.

All IMO

Plenty of people aren't forthcoming when either wanting to get out of jury duty or get onto the jury. I agree with you, no one should have their own agenda. IMO

 

[stephanddoody]

PROSPECTIVE jurors in the trial of an American nanny and her father who deny the murder of an Irish father of two are being questioned extensively about their views on domestic violence and what experience, if any, they have of it.

Both the the prosecution and defence can question prospective jurors about their personal history, family matters and views on a wide range of topics including domestic violence.

Another prospective juror, when asked about what media coverage of the case they had watched, commented: "Miss Molly don't look like what was in the papers.The prospective juror insisted they had not formed any opinion on the case despite having read that the incident may have been linked to a row over money and that Mr Martens was "only trying to protect the daughter.""

http://www.independent.ie/world-new...e-murder-trial-of-jason-corbett-35943858.html
I also read elsewhere but will find the link that potential jurors were questioned on their knowledge of CPR .

 

[Estelle]

I have come late to this case and I find it very interesting. I have read all the pages of this thread but I was horrified to read this in the Irish Times published on July 17, 2017. I would like to know what you think about it.

In the days following their father&#8217;s death, both children were interviewed by Social Services officials, and specialists at a children&#8217;s advocacy centre called the Dragonfly House, with detectives observing the interviews behind a two-way mirrored glass wall.

The documents submitted by the defence said: &#8220;Sarah reported that: her dad started fights with her mom for ridiculous reasons; he would hurt her mom; he would scream at her mom every day and sometimes twice a day; he would call her mom names on a daily basis; he would call her mom a lot on the phone; she saw her dad step on her mom&#8217;s foot, pull her mom&#8217;s hair, roll over her mom&#8217;s foot with the car, hit her mom in the face and call her mom names like &#8220;worthless&#8221;.

It further claimed: &#8220;Jack reported that: his dad would physically and verbally abuse his mom; he would punch, hit and push her; he saw her [sic] dad push her [sic] mom down one time because he wanted to look through her phone; his dad would cuss and scream at her; his mom would cry and try to block her ears; his dad&#8217;s anger was worse over the past few months, he would scream, get mad and cuss more, he was getting angrier; his mom would try to get him to stop but his dad was strong; his mom would scream for him to stop but sometimes she would just ball up under the covers and block her ears.&#8221;

In the same documents, the defence claimed that the state subsequently procured the video interview with Jack Corbett which was conducted in Mrs Lynch&#8217;s Limerick home, &#8220;under coercive circumstances without any of the safeguards to ensure trustworthiness or reliability&#8221;.

A pre-trial hearing was held last month, at which the judge deferred his ruling on what, if any, statements made by the children will be admissible as evidence. Crucially, this hearing was told that Jack Corbett said he lied about witnessing any domestic abuse inflicted on Ms Martens by his father.

&#8220;He said he felt really bad about it. He said he wanted to tell the police he lied,&#8221; Ms Lynch told the hearing last month.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpo...lies-locked-in-battle-for-justice-454966.html