GUILTY NC - Laura Ackerson, 27, Kinston, 13 July 2011 #8

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3 males and 9 females! Thanks for posting the info.
I wonder what the breakdown is/was on the initial vote and where they are now.
I am thinking 8-4 or 9-3 G, the rest will come around tomorrow!
 
If indeed there are one or two or even three holdouts, I think it will go to mistrial.

I do not think the people who think it's M1 will back down.

I think it will be mistrial if that's the case.

If you were on the jury, aa, and you felt strongly about it being a M1 crime, would you back down to M2 so as not to have a possible mistrial?

I have never seriously thought about it, I guess. Hmmm. That's a tuff one. I would hate to walk out there as a juror as part of a mistrial, but I would also hate not to mete out to the perpetrator what she deserves. I really hope that's not where they are. Yes, I do worry.
 
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit you guys, I just realized AH is one year younger than me. Holy bad skin Batman, she looks so much older than yours truly :princess:
 
IF I am not mistaken, I went to the court site and read the fillings. Please someone go behind me and check. I didn't know or find anything about an attorney who had cancer and retired. Only knew the name Ron Adamson as her counsel and there's a marriage license for them! I thought the way she spun it on the stand was interesting. Left an open ended question didn't it? So Mrs. Hayes your attorney, what was his name? retired WHEN? and WHO took over your case?

Also a tidbit - Ron Adamson was indicted for fraud in July 2011 for "allegedly accepted casino winnings from a client who was attempting to avoid paying child support" per the Farmington Daily News.

Careful not to run afoul of the moderators.

I have been castigated on the site for 'sleuthing' a defense witness who supposedly had nothing to do with the case.
 
Snipped by yours truly. What I think the degree is is when it comes to sentencing. Accessory to A felony or B felony is C felony - in penalty. Or not. Don't believe me, I am just here for the free coffee. :scared:

Te amo, chiqita, te amo!!
 
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit you guys, I just realized AH is one year younger than me. Holy bad skin Batman, she looks so much older than yours truly :princess:

The complexion of Wednesday Addams?

You must favor Morticia over Gomez. :seeya:
 
Jury asks to see replica of saw used in Laura Ackerson murder

Posted: Feb 18, 2014 6:08 PM CST
Updated: Feb 18, 2014 6:47 PM CST

by WNCN Staff - WNCN
Raleigh, NC



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Just before lunch, the jury requested to see a replica of the saw used in the murder. The jury wanted to hear how loud the saw was when started, however the judge denied that request since the saw was never started during the actual trial.

Read more and view video:

http://www.wncn.com/story/24758156/jury-asks-to-see-replica-of-saw-used-in-murder


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If AH knew nothing about LA being deceased (her body in AH's bathroom) and she also knew nothing about a jackhammer-looking saw that no one living in an apartment would ever need - how did she miss her husband bringing into the home those huge ice coolers? And big bags of ice? Why is it okay that GH spent the majority of the night not at home? AH must have spent lots of time in that back bedroom oblivious to everything.

I think Sha was on to them early. After watching the kids all day (after the murder), they go to Texas and Sha had to hang out in their apartment to wait for a stranger from craigslist for the sale of their furniture. I believe she was already a little put-out by all the demands. While in the apartment, we know Sha aired it out from the bleach smell. I imagine that she took a look around the place knowing they wouldn't be home. She had to have seen and questioned the stripped-clean and empty bathroom. I bet she also found the saw manual that day and it wouldn't surprise me if she also saw the $25,000 note. She also probably thought about why nothing was packed to move to Kinston and the only cleaning seemed to be that one bathroom and a bleach mess on the carpet. She was told they were packing to move. I remember that she asked to go to Texas with them, since she wanted to see her cousins and was told that she was being selfish. I'm sure there is more I missed. I think she was having a lot of questions long before the police spoke to her.
 
Yes, I agree with all of that. But my issue with this time thing is that Grant's jury took 90 minutes to come to their decision. Probably less than that, if you factor in picking a foreperson, signing the form, etc.. So let's say 1 hour. And they also didn't discuss it before.

Where is there this huge difference b/w Grant and Amanda that I am missing?

So Grant was on tape at a couple more places. Amanda was also on tape buying bleach and dumping acid.

They don't know exactly what happened at the apartment, neither with Grant nor with Amanda.

They have Sha telling them she took the kids in the morning while BOTH Amanda and Grant were left inside the apartment.

They have Uhaul, etc., going to Amanda's sister's house.

They have pictures of Grant and Amanda smiling together.

THey have Karen's testimony.

They have them going out on the boat together.

All I am seeing is Grant and Amanda together, Grant and Amanda, Grant and Amanda.

So I am trying to understand this seeming discrepancy b/w Grant's jury and Amanda's jury.

Does it all come down to motive? (Grant had more motive and there is more evidence that he hated her?) That is the only conclusion I can come to. That this jury must think Amanda did not have as much motive as Grant, and therefore didn't participate as much (or at all?) as Grant did.
So what if Grant's jury took 90 minutes or 9 days. This is a different trial, different jury. Apples and Oranges.
 
Chelly,

You and I caught the same train!!! I think drugs played a part of Grant's life for quite some time. Has anyone found any arrest records for him for possession or dealing? His friends, Laura in her court docs, Shae on the stand, AND that cellmate all mentioned drugs where Grant Hayes was concerned.

Let me guess -- AMANDA was deaf,dumb, and blind about that too???

My opinion is NO WAY!!!

Agree. Drugs make money go away fast. It would not surprise me if Grant has addiction issues.
 
I don't know how many witnesses the prosecution called but as I recall they had 116 on their list at the beginning of the trial, that's a ton of info for them to have heard, and heard only once, they don't get to see a replay to refresh their memories, they have their notes and the physical evidence, I'm not bothered at all that they want to be thorough and go over everything with such a serious decision to be made.
 
She said she heard him at a bar and later agreed to take guitar lessons from him. WELL, I'd like to hear her play!!! I have wondered if that was fiction and they found each other because of shared interests.

I think the "guitar lessons" was something GH used to bait women; it was mentioned during testimony that he also offered lessons to Laura when they met.
 
I think the "guitar lessons" was something GH used to bait women; it was mentioned during testimony that he also offered lessons to Laura when they met.

Amanda described his guitar as not a real guitar, but a little travel guitar ... still curious about what that is.
 
I don't know how many witnesses the prosecution called but as I recall they had 116 on their list at the beginning of the trial, that's a ton of info for them to have heard, and heard only once, they don't get to see a replay to refresh their memories, they have their notes and the physical evidence, I'm not bothered at all that they want to be thorough and go over everything with such a serious decision to be made.

geevee, for your info:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/closing-arguments-underway-in-north-carolina-moms-murder-trial/
CBS News - 2/17/14

Closing arguments underway in N.C. mom's murder trial

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Hayes’ trial spanned 13 days in which 49 witnesses were called to testify, reports CBS affiliate WRAL.
 
Amanda described his guitar as not a real guitar, but a little travel guitar ... still curious about what that is.

Example of a Rover (Washburn) Travel Guitar:

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This one's 24" long.

Probably just slightly less than Grant's bunk is wide.
 
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