NC NC - Madalina Cojocari, 11, reported Missing Dec 2022 three Weeks After Last Seen, Cornelius, *Parents Arrested* #2

[SherryLock]

...One of my first thoughts about this case was how in the world did MC’s parents think nobody would notice or question her prolonged absence from school. Yet the two of them seem have gone about their everyday lives as if nothing had changed. According to them, they superficially inquired to each other about MC’s absence, accepted she wasn’t there and it was business as usual. Mind-boggling.
They both seemed equally shocked that police would be interested in talking about this with them. What is wrong with these people! It’s like they are completely unaware they live in a world with other people...

I agree. All they had to do was tell the school that Madalina had been sent to relatives in Moldova and that would most likely have been the end of it, with no investigation of any kind.

Where I live anyway, once the school is notified that a child has been withdrawn from their district, that ends the school's connection with that child. Child Protective Services would be the ones to take over from there, which would only be done if there was evidence of child abuse, which withdrawing a child from a school is not. For ex., I once took one of my children out of public school to home school them for a while. I told the school and they said, "Oh, okay," and that was that.

These parents' loony strategy of both claiming ignorance after failing to report that their eleven-year-old child was missing for three weeks makes me think they will be no match for LE in the end. At this point I think it's safe to say they are criminals, but not very sophisticated ones!

 

[iamnotagolem]

This is such a wild case, I held on to hope for longer than I should have, then realized a couple of weeks ago that she is likely dead, now this new information that has come out I'm back on hoping she's alive. Make it make sense.

 

[Megnut]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by all this.
Who was going to sell Madalina? Her mother, or her step-father?
Where did the money go?
Why wasn't it safe for DC to go to the police?
You think Madalina is alive somewhere in a trafficked situation and her mom is just an innocent martyr?

I only have a theory.

That he was messed up in some dangerous stuff and was going to leverage a child. I think the mother became aware, wanted to leave with the child but either wasn't able to or feared the legal implications of that, which might put the daughter back in harm's way.

I think they are each not talking -- but for different reasons. IMO he's not going to volunteer anything.

I think she had a mastermind a plan, perhaps not sure who she could trust, and certainly without alerting him. The bag of money, either she squirreled that away to pay for escape or it was money, in exchange for the girl, only the girl wasn't exchanged. A double double-cross.

I know that I've tripped now into fantasy but, that M has been seen with her uncle, gives me new eyes. Perhaps he was holding out somewhere, waiting for the mother to ascend, to join them, but she couldn't find a safe way out from there, not without jeopardize M's location.

For this to work, one has to assume there are agents more powerful than LE... which might be a flight of fantasy to far for some. I get that.

But instead, if you imagine a mother trying to save her child from powerful forces (drugs, debt, trafficking), and she has to do it without being caught by him, it isn't completely crazy.

He may not know where M is because he believes she was sold and he's responsible. And she's not talking because it's the only way to keep M safe, even if she never sees her again.

I admit fully the bias is showing.

Drug possession in jail? That doesn't look good. On the mother. But drugs are currency in jail. Perhaps she needed currency to get something else, like access to a phone.

I don't think she knows where M is. I think she trusts OC implicitly. I mean she has to. He's M's only chance.

I would give up my daughter if I knew if would protect her, especially if I knew I couldn't protect her any other way.

I think she was undergrounded out of the country. And is safe there. Ideal? Of course not. But a fate a million times better than being sold.

If the title of this thread was 11 year old sold and sex trafficked, there'd be little hope of her being found, alive or safe.

JMO

 

[Regal Beagle]

If I thought I'd stumbled upon a child I knew was missing in these circumstances, I'd get my phone out, start covertly videoing and talking to the child. I'd be phoning 911 straight away and letting them know there's a chance the missing child is here, right now, and that I have eyes on them. If she left before Police got there, I'd be watching exactly where she went/following her, and I'd have the video for them to verify if I lost her

I dunno, maybe I sound dramatic but if I genuinely thought the person was the missing child, I'd do something right then and there

This is exactly what I would have done in Carlee Russell case, if it had been true!

 

[MsMarple]

This is such a wild case, I held on to hope for longer than I should have, then realized a couple of weeks ago that she is likely dead, now this new information that has come out I'm back on hoping she's alive. Make it make sense.

I just realized this morning that the December 16 sightings were photos, not video. That could explain LE’s description that the pair are “physically consistent” with Madalina and OC. IOW difficult to be sure it’s actually them.

That’s far from definitive and probably why the school bus video is still being called the last known sighting of Madalina. That doesn’t bode well. And if December 16 is a true sighting then how could CP have sold Madalina?

IMO DC’s story to her mother is trash. Both of them know their calls are monitored and CP is aware that his “journals” can be read by LE. Who do they think they’re fooling?

Like you I hope Madalina is still alive but I’m hard pressed to figure out how. All MOO

 

[StarryStarryNight]

My question at the moment is if LE had a photo in December that they thought “physically resembled” MC and her only family member other than parents in the US…or however they worded it…then where is that person now? And add in, have they talked to this person and/or do they have eyes on this person?

 

[Windy*]

One thing I did notice in reading the search warrants is the one that went to Wells Fargo wants records from 1-1/22 to 9-30/22. Stopping in Sept. well before M went missing. If DC said in a statement that on Dec 2 she was with a missing child. She was the one that LE said was hindering the investigation, DC is the one that asked OC for help. DC is the one that didn't ask CP about M till he got home. DC was the one that was found sleeping in her car in Madison co. One thing I did notice in several pics is M usually wears a necklace, and she also raises her arms up in the air. Her hair style could now be different and the color changed. We need to keep Madalina and LE in our prayers to bring her back safely.

 

[katydid23]

One good take away from the alleged pictures---at least LE is still open to the idea that M is still alive and well. So no evidence yet that she is not?

 

[OrangeCash]

Have the photos been leaked? Or are we just hearing about them from the search warrant?

 

[MsMarple]

Have the photos been leaked? Or are we just hearing about them from the search warrant?

As far as I know the photos haven’t been released which IMO is odd given that the school bus video was quickly published in msm.

And to add to the confusion, there’s this:

The Cornelius Police Department says they have received numerous tips about possible sightings of Cojocari but all have been determined to be false. This announcement comes just two days after search warrants relating to her disappearance were unsealed in Mecklenburg County.

In the search warrants, investigators describe a lead on a child that looked like Cojocari with her only known blood relative in the United States. Police also said they were looking into a tip of a possible Cojocari sighting in California earlier this month.

However, police doubled down on Thursday, saying that Cojocari was last seen getting off a school bus on Nov. 21, 2022

Cornelius police say reported Madalina Cojocari sightings were not her

Warrants released this week provided insight into the continued search for Madalina Cojocari, who went missing in November 2022.

www.wcnc.com

That information comes directly from the Cornelius Police Department Facebook page, linked in the article. I checked. Here’s the full statement:

We want to make sure accurate information is being reported to the public in regard to when Madalina was last seen.

As we have always reported, Madalina was last seen getting off of her school bus on November 21st, 2022.

Throughout this investigation, we have received numerous tips on possible sightings of Madalina in various locations across the country. All tips were thoroughly investigated and determined not to be Madalina.

We will continue to follow up on any tips or possible sightings of Madalina.

We want to bring Madalina home. This has been our priority since we learned she was missing. Please continue to share her picture on social media to help us #FindMadalina and call us if you have any information that can help our detectives at 704-892-7773.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02cMAwtz7ZyCgrKNN3g3rECnyzmgsRthGz6zxMeCiVHfQ26QmCFcix3Aa5RHAZ7RcLl&id=100064556297196&mibextid=qC1gEa

It sounds like LE investigated the photos and learned that it wasn’t Madalina and OC after all but no one in msm bothered to check if there had been follow up.

Remember, a lot of time has passed between the search warrants and now; there may be much new information in the investigation.

JMO of course.

 

[OrangeCash]

It sounds like LE investigated the photos and learned that it wasn’t Madalina and OC after all but no one in msm bothered to check if there had been follow up.

Remember, a lot of time has passed between the search warrants and now; there may be much new information in the investigation.

Thank you for clarifying

(Side note/a little whinge from me - I hate that news isn't just news, and that money-making factors into it. Click bait headlines, not bothering to clarify confusion etc, it all generates more clicks, more traffic, more advertising revenue, etc. when news should actually be about clear, non-biased, factual information. I hate it.)

 

[Chelly]

I am frustrated with the investigation. LE seems evasive about releasing information. I am expecting we will learn nothing at the Aug 17 hearing which will likely be pushed back again like all the other scheduled hearings.

Cases are being solved these days by DNA and digital evidence. Surely there is incriminating cell phone and computer data here too. People talk. Where are the witness statements? I doubt CP and DC are criminal masterminds with ablity to destroy all evidence. How long will they continue to be jailed on failure to report missing child?

 

[MsMarple]

Thank you for clarifying

(Side note/a little whinge from me - I hate that news isn't just news, and that money-making factors into it. Click bait headlines, not bothering to clarify confusion etc, it all generates more clicks, more traffic, more advertising revenue, etc. when news should actually be about clear, non-biased, factual information. I hate it.)

Agree 100%. And to add, it wouldn’t hurt if Cornelius PD would be crystal clear in their statements too. They are aware that the big news is about the potential sightings from Sugar Mountain PD so why not add something that directly addresses those sightings?

It takes very little for social media to spin out of control and like you say, msm is more concerned with clicks. Neither are very good with subtleties so IMO LE needs to say exactly what they mean, loud and clear. MOO

 

[SherryLock]

From all the other crime cases I've followed, I'd expect LE to keep the investigation open and the information private for as long as possible, until/unless they locate MC, whether alive or deceased. That allows the chance for more evidence to show up and strengthen their case.

After all, they only get one chance to convict and that's a lot harder without first finding the missing person or a body. Even if DC and CP had to be released from jail for now, that does not by any means indicate that it's over. With LE holding their passports, where would they likely be able to hide for long anyway.

I would love to know what's going on behind the scenes though.

 

[Deleted member 326769]

Does anyone know what FB group that was mentioned on. I cannot find any groups for her. or pages ?

I can pull up ten different groups for her, although I no longer belong to any of them. Did you by chance misspell the name?

 

[Deleted member 326769]

Surveillance photo of girl in NC mountains was 'physically consistent' with Madalina Cojocari, warrants show

During a recorded jail phone call, Diana Cojocari discussed a big bag of money and floated a theory Madalina was possibly given away for cash, court documents sho

Oh no! I always thought that her mother sold her. I just really didn’t know any to say it and put it out into the universe. I’ve got a pit in my stomach after reading this.

 

[Megnut]

Oh no! I always thought that her mother sold her. I just really didn’t know any to say it and put it out into the universe. I’ve got a pit in my stomach after reading this.

FWIW, it appears the mother passed M to a trusted family member, and IMO he has no reason to sell her; therefore, I think she was passed to him for safe-keeping.

Consider if there were drugs passing through their household, if coercive control is a feature here, she may have been plotting escape for very long time, carefully skimming money, a bagful, not from selling M but for getting her out of the country.

I could be totally wrong, but if I'm right, or even close to right, going to the police would have been very messy, but IMO it wasn't the police she was afraid of. She was planning to escape and didn't want to get caught by him.

Perhaps, when the time was near, she didn't have enough money for both M and herself, or felt it was safer to send M on alone, in the company of someonr she trusted with her life.

I'm not saying it's right, maybe far from it. But she might have been living under a great cloud of danger and it felt to her like the only way --

Jmo

 

[Deleted member 326769]

FWIW, it appears the mother passed M to a trusted family member, and IMO he has no reason to sell her; therefore, I think she was passed to him for safe-keeping.

Consider if there were drugs passing through their household, if coercive control is a feature here, she may have been plotting escape for very long time, carefully skimming money, a bagful, not from selling M but for getting her out of the country.

I could be totally wrong, but if I'm right, or even close to right, going to the police would have been very messy, but IMO it wasn't the police she was afraid of. She was planning to escape and didn't want to get caught by him.

Perhaps, when the time was near, she didn't have enough money for both M and herself, or felt it was safer to send M on alone, in the company of someonr she trusted with her life.

I'm not saying it's right, maybe far from it. But she might have been living under a great cloud of danger and it felt to her like the only way --

Jmo

I’ve been following this since the beginning so I’m aware of all that’s been theorized. But I’ll have to respectfully disagree with you k. This one IMO

 

[SpicyFruit]

I am frustrated with the investigation. LE seems evasive about releasing information. I am expecting we will learn nothing at the Aug 17 hearing which will likely be pushed back again like all the other scheduled hearings.

Cases are being solved these days by DNA and digital evidence. Surely there is incriminating cell phone and computer data here too. People talk. Where are the witness statements? I doubt CP and DC are criminal masterminds with ablity to destroy all evidence. How long will they continue to be jailed on failure to report missing child?

Maybe they believe Madalina to be alive and worry too much information released could put her in harms way? I feel this with this case there is so much more information and they are keeping it really close to the vest. I wonder if they were to find Madalina and believe she could be in harm's way if the world were notified of her life if they would ever confirm they found her?

 

[SpicyFruit]

Came here to say, today I learned a possible reason DC had so many email addresses. Subscriptions. Different email addresses could have gotten them free trials for some websites. Not saying it is that but I guess a possibility.