NC - Shaniya Davis, 5, Fayetteville, 10 Nov 2009 - Allegedly sold by mother #25

[not_my_kids]

Don't forget to find out what ink on paper petitions are circulating in your areas. these are the ones that really matter, and validity can be verified. Online petitions are good for showing what the public cares about, but the signatures, names and addresses can't be verified, therefore they are not worth much in the political machine.

Moo,after being peripherally involved in politics for several years. (The reason I don't talk about politics here.)

 

[The Green Hornet]

Roast.. Roast... Roast.

These ****ing animals need to roast.

I'd say give the bastards a round of bullets each, but it's way too humane.

I'm sorry, but when a story makes me shutter to the point of vomiting, like this one has, my emotions escape in full force.

Our children are gifts that are given to us. I fully believe that our children choose us to be their parents, for better or for worse. When we are given this gift, we have not just a chosen responsibility, but a LIFELONG OBLIGATION to protect them at all costs, especially when they are young, innocent and need us the most. As a father, I'd die the worst death possible before I'd let one thing like this happen to my child and to hear the story of how the mother allowed this to happen for PROFIT no less has made me not only vomit, but it's made me to the point where I feel like I want to throw something, hard and far.

Why? I often bring myself to ask this. I'm a spiritual guy by nature. I'm a believer in all things good, and while I'm not a routine church-goer, I do believe and follow His word. Yet, there are times like these when I wonder why things like this happen.

Regardless, I can't wish enough horrendous things to happen to these vile animals.. As far as I'm concerned, Hell isn't hot enough and the voltage in the chair can't be amped up high enough for my liking. Roast these bastards, put them through the torture this poor child went through. Even then, it's not enough, but at least these scumbags will be dust in a painful way and justice will be served.

Sorry, this just really sickens me.. And angers me, as it does many.

 

[lbminnesota]

"This is a family that was already known to social service workers down there," task force co-chairman Tom Vitaglione said. "They are all very distraught about the whole thing."

The task force is charged with investigating every child death in the state, said Kevin Kelley a spokesman for the state's child welfare services. It will not begin looking into the Davis case until all criminal actions have been resolved or until a year after Shaniya's death, which ever comes later, Kelley said.

While I can understand not interfering w LE's investigation, I guess I am disappointed to learn this task force won't even begin to look at where the breakdowns occurred in Shaniya's case for so long...
....snipped
arrot:

Kiki: After thinking about this, I believe this is very positive. LE is looking for motive, past abuse, other offenders, deliberate intent, and any other victims of abuse (e.g., AD's son and BD's children). To do this, they will need to start at the beginning of Shaniya's life to understand the whole picture.

In this process, all the breakdowns and anything pertinent to the case they are building will come out vs. being hidden under DSS sealed records.

 

[mikeysmommom]

please follow this link and sign this petition, calling for stricter punishment for convicted pedophiles...every signature counts! We have to protect our innocent children!!
http://www.petitiononline.com/usa064/petition.html

i just signed this and was the 799 person...i truly believe if every member of ws would sign it it would really help.
We need tougher laws to protect the children

please sign it now!!

thank you please everyone sign it.

 

[PorcineGranny]

To the Green Hornet, You know, I feel as you do. I hated even thinking about this case because it made me feel so sick. But, let me offer this small thought. I too believe our children choose us and it is a wonderful opportunity in life. When the most horrible thing happens you can imagine, I have to think that Heavenly Father, who knows all, and is in control, and sees the bigger picture because I have such a temporal view is taking care of all this. That Shaniya is well within the loving arms of the Savior and is happy in every way. That her little spirit did not need any more time on this brutal earth and she is being loved and cherished in every way. Our time on earth is the learning time and God says woe to those that hurt the children. Right now, we are living in especially hard times, children murdered,animal abuse, government collapsing , Nuclear bombs, blasphemy of God just basic human decency being ignored. Now is the time, for those who believe, who cannot bear this injustice, to stand tall, and be true to yourself and to God. This temporal existance is but a fleeting moment, we are eternal beings.

 

[SondraK]

To the Green Hornet, You know, I feel as you do. I hated even thinking about this case because it made me feel so sick. But, let me offer this small thought. I too believe our children choose us and it is a wonderful opportunity in life. When the most horrible thing happens you can imagine, I have to think that Heavenly Father, who knows all, and is in control, and sees the bigger picture because I have such a temporal view is taking care of all this. That Shaniya is well within the loving arms of the Savior and is happy in every way. That her little spirit did not need any more time on this brutal earth and she is being loved and cherished in every way. Our time on earth is the learning time and God says woe to those that hurt the children. Right now, we are living in especially hard times, children murdered,animal abuse, government collapsing , Nuclear bombs, blasphemy of God just basic human decency being ignored. Now is the time, for those who believe, who cannot bear this injustice, to stand tall, and be true to yourself and to God. This temporal existance is but a fleeting moment, we are eternal beings.

My thoughts exactly. You just said it better than I could :hug:

 

[songline]

Please follow this link and sign this petition, calling for stricter punishment for convicted pedophiles...every signature counts! We have to protect our innocent children!!
http://www.petitiononline.com/USA064/petition.html

I just signed this and was the 799 person...I truly believe if every member of WS would sign it it would really help.
We need tougher laws to protect the children

Please sign it NOW!!

I signed too and I was #806
WHAT :doh: please lets make this 6 figures by end of year.
only 806 people disagree with the laws that permit pedophiles to be in a revolving door in jail.?
PLEASE SIGN THIS WE NEED STRONGER LAWS TO STOP THESE ANIMALS FROM BEING IN OUR SOCIETY.
http://www.petitiononline.com/USA064/petition.html

 

[songline]

To the Green Hornet, You know, I feel as you do. I hated even thinking about this case because it made me feel so sick. But, let me offer this small thought. I too believe our children choose us and it is a wonderful opportunity in life. When the most horrible thing happens you can imagine, I have to think that Heavenly Father, who knows all, and is in control, and sees the bigger picture because I have such a temporal view is taking care of all this. That Shaniya is well within the loving arms of the Savior and is happy in every way. That her little spirit did not need any more time on this brutal earth and she is being loved and cherished in every way. Our time on earth is the learning time and God says woe to those that hurt the children. Right now, we are living in especially hard times, children murdered,animal abuse, government collapsing , Nuclear bombs, blasphemy of God just basic human decency being ignored. Now is the time, for those who believe, who cannot bear this injustice, to stand tall, and be true to yourself and to God. This temporal existence is but a fleeting moment, we are eternal beings.

I seem to believe that in degrees, and mostly when I need to feel better.
But I know that God gave us choice as he gave to Adam and Eve and they sure did make their choice, not the choice God would have wanted but the Choice God made available.Temptation is one of the choices we get.
I don't believe God ever wished suffering on anyone; I believe some suffering has however taught us other life lessons. I can not for the life of me come up with any reason at all this little one would have needed such great suffering.
So I can not put this one in Gods hands....I have a problem putting it all on God. I think some people have chosen the way of the devil and I am afraid that this little innocent one just got in the way.
YAP it would make me feel better to think it was ordained by God, but God is a loving God and I cant seem to understand God ordaining such a brutal horrid ending for such an angel.
It is hard for me to understand, and I too am a spiritual one who knows that we do pick our parents pre birth for whatever life lessons we need in this life time.
I imagine, Shaniya has had a previous life where she has made this choice IN HOPE to become a poster child for
POSITIVE Change. I hope many changes happens as a result of this horrific tragedy.

 

[songline]

Roast.. Roast... Roast.

These ****ing animals need to roast.

I'd say give the bastards a round of bullets each, but it's way too humane.

I'm sorry, but when a story makes me shutter to the point of vomiting, like this one has, my emotions escape in full force.

Our children are gifts that are given to us. I fully believe that our children choose us to be their parents, for better or for worse. When we are given this gift, we have not just a chosen responsibility, but a LIFELONG OBLIGATION to protect them at all costs, especially when they are young, innocent and need us the most. As a father, I'd die the worst death possible before I'd let one thing like this happen to my child and to hear the story of how the mother allowed this to happen for PROFIT no less has made me not only vomit, but it's made me to the point where I feel like I want to throw something, hard and far.

Why? I often bring myself to ask this. I'm a spiritual guy by nature. I'm a believer in all things good, and while I'm not a routine church-goer, I do believe and follow His word. Yet, there are times like these when I wonder why things like this happen.

Regardless, I can't wish enough horrendous things to happen to these vile animals.. As far as I'm concerned, Hell isn't hot enough and the voltage in the chair can't be amped up high enough for my liking. Roast these bastards, put them through the torture this poor child went through. Even then, it's not enough, but at least these scumbags will be dust in a painful way and justice will be served.

Sorry, this just really sickens me.. And angers me, as it does many.

GREAT POST :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[songline]

I have to pop in and say I don't believe this to be true. Sober parents have and do sell children into sexual slavery. Research thoroughly.

Not knowingly.
If they live in remote areas away from civilization and are pretty ignorant, they cant even fathom that.
While some very distant tribes find incest to be "normal".
I have found no where, where a parent would sell a child KNOWING they'd be harmed. They are coned with some glorified story. (a tragedy in itself)
Those who sell have higher hopes for their child.

 

[songline]

"This is a family that was already known to social service workers down there," task force co-chairman Tom Vitaglione said. "They are all very distraught about the whole thing."

The task force is charged with investigating every child death in the state, said Kevin Kelley a spokesman for the state's child welfare services. It will not begin looking into the Davis case until all criminal actions have been resolved or until a year after Shaniya's death, which ever comes later, Kelley said.

The task force will look at when local social services workers first contacted the family, the status of the case and whether proper procedures were followed, Vitaglione said. Investigators also will consider the impact of state and local budget cuts on social service agencies, he said.

While I can understand not interfering w LE's investigation, I guess I am disappointed to learn this task force won't even begin to look at where the breakdowns occurred in Shaniya's case for so long...

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...S_NC?SITE=MYPSP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
arrot:

:waitasec: Just wondering....
<SNIP> from your post.
The task force is charged with investigating every child death in the state, said Kevin Kelley a spokesman for the state's child welfare services. It will not begin looking into the Davis case until all criminal actions have been resolved or until a year after Shaniya's death, which ever comes later, Kelley said.
<END>

OK they are going to wait about a year :waitasec:
I would imagine that you can change any Record to make yourself look good within ONE YEAR.
I would imagine that even by now they could have changed records.
OS Does anyone know if the records of this family has been at least. Picked up and filed by LE in a safe place for PROPER further investigation

 

[songline]

OT-hubby lived in Haight Ashbury at that time off and on. I tell him that he should write a book about what he saw there. Runaways having to prostitute themselves, guns, violence. Lots of stuff.

I was in college at the time. Lots of drugs. I was fortunate that I saw the negatives awfully quick and never got into it. But there were lots and lots of really great kids that were working to stop all kinds of inequities.

We were making a better world, we thought, and in ways we did. But there has been a real down side to it.

We fought for women's rights and now I see elementary girls dressing like hookers. I commented once that some of those outfits indicated sexual abuse. A more knowing person told me it was the style and parents allow it. Won't go into it all.
I hope things swing more to the middle. I don't want a world of ultra conservatives either. It seems like that style leads to all kinds of sexual abuse, drug use, etc. as well.

I believe there is a huge difference between women's rights and teen age promiscuity.

I believe that schools have a right to request that girls come to school dressed a certain way: we did have rules, we did not wear jeans or skirts above the knee. I do not think women's rights changed this. or the reason we can not say God in school :waitasec:
We did not have kids with knives and guns in the school either. The sharpest thing a kid had was a pencil sharpener.

OUR society has changed, disrespect for adults have changed, and I see parents be called stupid
and they think it is so cute.
People misinterpret freedom of choice with I can do whatever I want whether you like it or not.

 

[human]

What I meant about the women's rights was that we thought that finally women would attain the equality of men and their rightful place in society, which we are moving towards.


But what I see is that the new generation has taken that gift that we worked so hard for, and they have used it do what I feel is the denigration of self. They've taken that gift and gone backwards with it. Not raising the standards of women, but bringing them down.

Breast implants as a High school gift? Is that what we fought for in woman's rights? I hope you get my drift.

 

[songline]

What I meant about the women's rights was that we thought that finally women would attain the equality of men and their rightful place in society, which we are moving towards.


But what I see is that the new generation has taken that gift that we worked so hard for, and they have used it do what I feel is the denigration of self. They've taken that gift and gone backwards with it. Not raising the standards of women, but bringing them down.

Breast implants as a High school gift? Is that what we fought for in woman's rights? I hope you get my drift.

No it is not...but then you see children like Tom Cruses little Suri wearing heals at the age of 4... What the F is that? and in the limelight as a role model for other children....:furious:
And they (parents) think that is cool :waitasec:

the problem is not the little ones or women's rights at all. it is who is raising them today.

 

[human]

I'll probably get kicked off for OT. What I mean is secretaries back in the day had to keep an extra pair of nylons in their desk if they got a run so they could change.

I am NOT blaming women's rights for what is happening. What I am trying to say is that my friends and I thought we were working to elevate women, which has happened.

But instead of moving onward and upward with the base that we provided, the new generation is going backwards. Making girls and women objects, once again.

Sex is used to sell products. Women as objects. There have been films made about this topic.

Once again, I am NOT blaming the women's movement. We are making progress. Dad's are with their kid's carrying front packs, they are in the delivery room, they change diapers. My hubby did this and he was tormented by his friends as being pu--y whipped. Now it's considered normal.

Women can move upward to the glass ceiling, etc. THANKS to the women's movement.

 

[doobiedoo52]

What I wouldn't give for some forensic results or just a crumb from LE about now!!
Does anyone know why we can find the charges on AD in the Cumberland Court System site, but none for MAM? Only things listed are window tinting and speeding. Has he not been charged yet? I can't figure that out.

 

[imamaze]

I know news is slow on Shaniya but lets try to keep things a little more on topic, and get back to discussing the case. Thanks.

 

[not_my_kids]

We probably reacted to this tragedy initially by shaking our heads back and forth a couple of times. Then we quickly moved on to more important things like Christmas shopping and &#8220;Desperate Housewives.&#8221;
Yes, let&#8217;s move on in a hurry so we don&#8217;t notice how deeply sick, broken, and lost we are in the depths of our American soul...
Shame on Shaniya&#8217;s tormentors and killers. But shame on all of us as well.

http://www.dailyadvance.com/opinion/shared-guilt-in-childs-murder-983068.html

Thank you, Mr. Gill.

 

[suzyq211]

We probably reacted to this tragedy initially by shaking our heads back and forth a couple of times. Then we quickly moved on to more important things like Christmas shopping and “Desperate Housewives.”
Yes, let’s move on in a hurry so we don’t notice how deeply sick, broken, and lost we are in the depths of our American soul...
Shame on Shaniya’s tormentors and killers. But shame on all of us as well.

http://www.dailyadvance.com/opinion/shared-guilt-in-childs-murder-983068.html

Thank you, Mr. Gill.

Absolutely...thank you.

 

[suzyq211]

No it is not...but then you see children like Tom Cruses little Suri wearing heals at the age of 4... What the F is that? and in the limelight as a role model for other children....:furious:
And they (parents) think that is cool :waitasec:

the problem is not the little ones or women's rights at all. it is who is raising them today.

Yes, it's almost as if children can't be CHILDREN anymore.