NeJame, TES Join Search for Haleigh

[MADJGNLAW]

I was just about to post the same thing. There's an assumption in that question that Haleigh was abducted, and if Misty knew she wasn't, how would the test react? It would have been interesting to see what happened with different questions with different assumptions. Do you know if she's alive? Do you know how she died? Do you know who did something to her?

I to was thinking about this and read an article yesterday that said some of the questions were not released because LE asked them not to. So I now wonder what all was asked of Misty. Like you stated above ( Do you know if she's alive? Do you know how she died? Do you know who did something to her?)

Expert: Misty Has Doubt About Haleigh's Dad
The expert says Misty wasn't totally under and the test was inconclusive.
More telling was the second test Misty did that same day, a layered voice analysis.

"Do you know of any person that would bother Haleigh?" asked Ward. Misty replied, "I really didn't know a lot of people. I have suspicions, yeah."

Police have asked us not to release that part of the tape.

Misty was then asked about Ronald Cummings, Haleigh's dad and her new husband. It was that questioning which puzzled the expert.

"Ronald had nothing to do with his daughter. He loves his daughter more than anything in this world," Misty told Ward.

He then told her, "When I asked you that, it came up and said you are not sure. Why is there doubt in your mind?"

Misty replied, "I don't know. I don't know if there's doubt in my mind, really Ronald didn't have nothing to do with his daughter, I can tell you that."
Article:http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/l...144098&catid=3

 

[MADJGNLAW]

Since when did TM ever force anyone to do anything. I would imagine that Equusearch is tired of being called in on cases that could be categorized as a "wild goose chase". There needs to be more information before asking people to go searching in the God only knows where woods fighting ticks, fire ants, snakes, vegetation that can cut you to the bone, water up to your hips...and for what? Which direction? Tim was wise to ask that the tests be given and now that there's a not so optimistic outlook, they don't want any more to do with Equusearch? They consented so what's the problem? Someone is trying to save their own hide at this point and it has nothing to do with Haleigh. That's what the situation says to me at this point.

I agree 100%. Misty came to Tim and asked him to help her clear her name because she did not trust LE. Tim has never that I know of asked anyone to do anything except help him try to locate the love one by sharing what info they have of where they may feel their love one is at. I think with the two cases that Tim has inserted himself into (Caylee and Haleigh), that maybe Tim should ask that the families to take Poly's only for the sake of the victim and the the volunteers. It's not easy doing those searches and some don't realize how the volunteers are out there putting their own life in danger. The least a family could do is take a poly and it should not be such a burden to them when they are asking for TES's help. Heck, the poly can't even be admissible in court for the most part so what do people have to be afraid of? Nothing unless they have something to hide. And for the one's that don't have anything to hide but feel uncomfortable about the Poly they should just ask Tim to not disclose the results to the public. End of story. JMO

 

[Donjeta]

I can see how TM and Equusearch and anybody else devoting time, effort and money to searching missing persons might be uncomfortable putting all those resources into a search that could possibly be just be a PR effort or a giant red herring wasting their time because the last person known to see the child is not telling LE everything they know. Not that the children don't deserve to be found anyway but I would be suspicious that I was being used for some ulterior purpose if the family who are supposed to help me choose places to search haven't cooperated with LE. Those resources could be used to search for some other missing person with better prospects of being found.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

This is really eating at me. I keep thinking about the van that was taken into evidence and then released. To me I would hope that LE was able to get soil, dirt, leaves, and other from the bottom of the van and take it from there. Match with the soil near by and start searching. Sometimes what seems so simple is the key to finding someone or something. I just have a gut feeling and hope LE has done this.

 

[evelyn24]

I agree 100%. Misty came to Tim and asked him to help her clear her name because she did not trust LE. Tim has never that I know of asked anyone to do anything except help him try to locate the love one by sharing what info they have of where they may feel their love one is at. I think with the two cases that Tim has inserted himself into (Caylee and Haleigh), that maybe Tim should ask that the families to take Poly's only for the sake of the victim and the the volunteers. It's not easy doing those searches and some don't realize how the volunteers are out there putting their own life in danger. The least a family could do is take a poly and it should not be such a burden to them when they are asking for TES's help. Heck, the poly can't even be admissible in court for the most part so what do people have to be afraid of? Nothing unless they have something to hide. And for the one's that don't have anything to hide but feel uncomfortable about the Poly they should just ask Tim to not disclose the results to the public. End of story. JMO

I don't think this is what happened at all. I believe there is information on this board that TM and his team of searchers did this as part of an agreement to search again because they didn't want to be on a wild goose chase and needed to know everything.
I could be wrong, but I don't think Misty asked to take all those tests to clear her name.

ETA.

I was correct: See this post:

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Ron C. # 11



FROM LINK:

Misty Cummings told First Coast News said Tim Miller of Texas EquuSearch told her if she did not agree to take the polygraph, voice analysis test, and undergo hypnosis, he would not search for Haleigh.

 

[tehcloser]

I don't think this is what happened at all. I believe there is information on this board that TM and his team of searchers did this as part of an agreement to search again because they didn't want to be on a wild goose chase and needed to know everything.
I could be wrong, but I don't think Misty asked to take all those tests to clear her name.

ETA.

I was correct: See this post:

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Ron C. # 11



FROM LINK:

Misty Cummings told First Coast News said Tim Miller of Texas EquuSearch told her if she did not agree to take the polygraph, voice analysis test, and undergo hypnosis, he would not search for Haleigh.

And if you look at other links....it shows that Tim did NOT ask her to take the tests. Actually he was on NG.and him and MN say they did not. Personally I will believe Tim Miller any day.

 

[tehcloser]

Honestly, why would Miller lie about this? I mean that is just nuts.

 

[Kat]

I think we are placed in the position where we must evaluate the claim that MC makes in which she states that she was pressured into taking the LDT and other tests. MC who is known for her consistent inconsistencies.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/8/27/equusearch_misty_miserably_fails_lie_detector_test.html
Misty says she was pressured

Then on the other hand we have TM of Equusearch, who states that MC approached him about an independent LDT in order to clear her name.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/28/ng.01.html

...BROOKS: So did Misty actually -- did she approach Tim or was it you that actually called Tim Miller?

NEJAME: No, I called Tim, and then Tim met with her. And then she asked him to allow for the polygraph.

BROOKS: So she asked Tim Miller to take the polygraph, correct?

NEJAME: Sure. Absolutely.

Najame is speaking on behalf of Equusearch and TM.

I have absolutely no reservations in trusting that TM, a long time child advocate and founder of Equusearch is speaking truthfully when he says that MC approached him and asked for an independent LDT and other tests to clear her name.

I do, however, have reservations about MC who has been referred to by the Putnam County Sherriffs office as:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/08/19/earlyshow/main5251508.shtml

...Misty Croslin-Cummings -- has key information about the girl's disappearance.

You know I have grown to hate the following phrase because it was used by the GM of a murdered child (high profile case).

But...

Sometimes it is what it is...

 

[Muffet]

I to was thinking about this and read an article yesterday that said some of the questions were not released because LE asked them not to. So I now wonder what all was asked of Misty. Like you stated above ( Do you know if she's alive? Do you know how she died? Do you know who did something to her?)

Expert: Misty Has Doubt About Haleigh's Dad
The expert says Misty wasn't totally under and the test was inconclusive.
More telling was the second test Misty did that same day, a layered voice analysis.

"Do you know of any person that would bother Haleigh?" asked Ward. Misty replied, "I really didn't know a lot of people. I have suspicions, yeah."

Police have asked us not to release that part of the tape.

That was about the voice analysis tape, but Tim Miller said the polygraph only had 4 questions.

I contacted an extremely reputable polygrapher in the Orlando area that polygraphed her. And of course, she didn`t have the money to do it, so we went ahead and paid for that. And there was just four questions asked.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0908/28/ng.01.html

(I know you knew this, but some news reporters have created confusion by mixing up the three tests in their reports, saying Ward did the polygraph or that she wasn't cooperative with the polygraph.)

 

[elle1919]

Bumping to keep from going off topic on another thread. In my opinion Teresa Neves appealed to Mark NeJame knowing full well that Tim Miller would be with him. NeJame and TES made the announcement that TN asked for their help in August near Haleigh's birthday, not in late September after Tommy Croslin dropped the bombshell about cruising by 202 Green Lane on the night Haleigh went missing.

 

[Baznme]

Bumping to keep from going off topic on another thread. In my opinion Teresa Neves appealed to Mark NeJame knowing full well that Tim Miller would be with him. NeJame and TES made the announcement that TN asked for their help in August near Haleigh's birthday, not in late September after Tommy Croslin dropped the bombshell about cruising by 202 Green Lane on the night Haleigh went missing.

IMO, TN was playing both sides of the coin trying to stay on MC's good side because RC was backing her OR she knew more than she was letting on. Going through the motions so to speak to keep up appearances. Calling TES again may have been one of the necessary motions to continue the facade. May have been (wanting to emphasize that).

According to this, it was a request on MC's part and TES paid for it.

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=145240&catid=3

Misty was questioned by investigators. Tim Miller with Equusearch administered a polygraph test requested by Misty. Miller says she told him she wanted to clear her name. He says Croslin-Cummings 'failed miserably.'

Miller says Croslin-Cummings wanted to do more, so she took a voice analysis test.