NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #2

[TeaTime]

It'd be common sense for a hunter.
You shoot in one area, they run away. You shoot in the other, they run back.
Honestly my first thought was "Bambi." I remember that scene from Bambi.

I am not a hunter but have been on many, many, hunts on 4 continents and and never ever heard of such a thing or saw it.

Chances are he scoped out the event layout, knew where people would be trying to exit and which streets they would be running down, which streets LE would be arriving on and just wanted different shooting vantage points for maximum effect.

He knew he wasn't going to be ducking behind the wall like in the old west shoot outs because NO ONE was going to return fire into an occupied hotel.

 

[CARIIS]

MSNBC

ugh they cant get their personal belongings there cars are not avail they cant leave they are trapped after being trapped in shooting range

now they are trapped in LV as FBi investigates

 

[TeaTime]

I'm confused - I thought he was a professional gambler? I'd think there's a difference between doing it for a living (I have a friend who gambles - mostly poker - a few times a year for extra income and to finance her travels) and being an addict (a family member who loses a lot of money and hast gotten credit cards in his children's names to finance his addiction). So calculating, calm and smart vs. impulsive and out of control. Different personalities.

News reports indicate he had lost about 30K at the casinos recently. He liked to gamble, his profession was that of an accountant and he was/had invested in real estate in LV.

He wasn't married. He had a young Malaysian GF who was married to someone else.

It will be interesting to find out how he got all those weapons into the hotel.

 

[wildebeest]

Heartbroken over this latest tragedy. My condolences to all of the victims and their families. Shooter is a real mystery man. It's hard for me to believe he didn't have some type of formal training. I don't think it was a psychotic break, as there was way too much planning.

IMHO

 

[flourish]

Link for already married gf, please?

 

[Spice]

I can't wait to find out how this unassuming real estate investor with a gambling problem ended up with at least one automatic rifle. They have been illegal to buy or sell since 1986 and altering a semi-automatic rifle to fully automatic takes some skill and knowledge of firearms which he doesn't seem to have had.

Seems his young Malaysian GF was married to someone else. He may have been a victim of a scheme for his money.

We'll see.

I think he definitely had knowledge of guns. He owned 47 of them. That indicates an obsession. Explosives were found at his home. He had scopes, tripods, and managed to understand what to use, and how to position himself to injure 527 and kill 59 people at a distance. I don't see him as a victim of his "Malaysian" girlfriend. There is zero evidence of that. I see him as the one and only perpetrator of this horrific massacre that we have knowledge of at this time. We know he spent his entire life gambling, professionally, and obsessively. He lived in hotels. His affluent homes had no furniture. He apparently lived to gamble. Eventual financial problems would be the obvious outcome and way more realistic and logical than his being a victim of a scam. imo.

 

[Inthedetails]

News reports indicate he had lost about 30K at the casinos recently. He liked to gamble, his profession was that of an accountant and he was/had invested in real estate in LV.

He wasn't married. He had a young Malaysian GF who was married to someone else.

It will be interesting to find out how he got all those weapons into the hotel.

Who is the young Malaysian girlfriend? He had a 62yo girlfriend who was married previously to someone, but they divorced. Haven't heard that the gf was married. Got a link?

Here's a link about the 62yo girlfriend.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock/724018001/#

 

[Lilibet]

Link for already married gf, please?

And link for “young” too while they’re at it. Previous links have said she’s 62...unless a new gf has emerged in posts I’ve missed. Please and thank you.

 

[wildebeest]

News reports indicate he had lost about 30K at the casinos recently. He liked to gamble, his profession was that of an accountant and he was/had invested in real estate in LV.

He wasn't married. He had a young Malaysian GF who was married to someone else.

It will be interesting to find out how he got all those weapons into the hotel.

Didn't know his GF was married and from Malaysia. Thought she was from the Philippines? Where did you hear this? Just curious.

 

[CARIIS]

Bio dad mental issues served time for bank robbery very bad criminal history described (dad) as psychopath

back then

mental illness comes back

and brother the second time I saw the interview was expansive!! msnbc

 

[Lilibet]

Didn't know his GF was married and from Malaysia. Thought she was from the Philippines? Where did you hear this? Just curious.

“She is an Australian citizen who was born in the Philippines, according to the Australian newspaper.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock/724018001/#

 

[Kano]

I can't wait to find out how this unassuming real estate investor with a gambling problem ended up with at least one automatic rifle. They have been illegal to buy or sell since 1986 and altering a semi-automatic rifle to fully automatic takes some skill and knowledge of firearms which he doesn't seem to have had.

Seems his young Malaysian GF was married to someone else. He may have been a victim of a scheme for his money.

We'll see.

It really doesn't... Go check youtube and you will find over 1,000 videos on how to do it and what to order..

 

[Spice]

Sources say Paddock was a guest at the hotel and used the employee ID card of a woman who sources referred to as his wife. That woman, Marilou Danley, lived with Paddock and sources say her ID was used by him to go in and out of restricted doors at the Mandalay Bay hotel. Danley is an employee of the hotel.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2017/10/02/stephen-paddock-las-vegas-shooting-attack-marilou-danley-id/

Danley was previously married to Geary Danley, who now lives in Arkansas. They married in Las Vegas in 1990, according to Washoe County records.

They jointly filed for divorce Feb. 25, 2015, and the divorce was finalized the next day.

The Reno Gazette-Journal also has interviewed friends of Marilou Danley, 62, some of whom said Danley is out of the country in the Philippines. Danley did not return multiple phone calls.

Danley had worked as a high-limit hostess at the Atlantis Casino Resort and Spa, according to her Linkedin profile.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock/724018001/

I have also seen her referred to as his "roommate' and in other reports "his girlfriend"

I'm not even sure she which is true yet. Girlfriend or Roommate .

I do know that she is not " a younger Malaysian girlfriend who is married to someone else".

 

[TeaTime]

I think he definitely had knowledge of guns. He owned 47 of them. That indicates an obsession. Explosives were found at his home. He had scopes, tripods, and managed to understand what to use, and how to position himself to injure 527 and kill 59 people at a distance. I don't see him as a victim of his "Malaysian" girlfriend. There is zero evidence of that. I see him as the one and only perpetrator of this horrific massacre that we have knowledge of at this time. We know he spent his entire life gambling, professionally, and obsessively. He lived in hotels. His affluent homes had no furniture. He apparently lived to gamble. Eventual financial problems would be the obvious outcome and way more realistic and logical than his being a victim of a scam. imo.

Not according to his brother who knew him.

 

[mpnola]

I just listened to the scanner that was posted and all I can do is feel for everyone there, but especially the officers. They have just been through something that has changed them forever. A very good friend who is a new orleans police officer was on duty for Katrina. The thing that has wounded him most was being a helper and people looking to you to help, but he couldn't help enough. That scars more than people give thought to. I hope they are forced to seek couseling for the experience.

Next, in the heavy articloe, there is video from Fox news. There are definitely shards of glass. Its not a clean break in either window.

Also, the person he shot was a security officer in the hallway a good bit of time before the entry into the room. It wasn't at the same time.

Lastly (and someone addressed this) he only rented one room. It was a suite with views on 2 sides of the building. Not rooms down the hall that went from one to another.



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[Spice]

Not according to his brother who knew him.

One brother had no contact with him for 20 years.

Two of the gunman’s three brothers said they were not close, and the third could not be located. Patrick Paddock said he and his brother had not been in contact for as long as 20 years, and he did not initially recognize the face that flashed on his television screen. He wondered aloud about the motive behind the crime, and expressed profound distress for the victims.

Eric Paddock said that his brother was a wealthy man who gambled for fun. The two brothers had shared a real estate business for decades, refurbishing properties, the sale of which had left his brother with what he estimated was $2 million. “He’s a multimillionaire,” he said. “He helped me become affluent, he made me wealthy.”

The other brother had very surface contact with him for the past 1 or 2 years after running a real estate business with him. There is a lot you can "Not Know" about a family member, especially if the last time you saw them was "1 or 2 years ago, when I moved him from Melbourne to Mesquite". Also, that brother said he knew he had guns, he just didn't know he had "machine guns". Now we know he had more than a "few guns". The proof is in what he did. Not what his brother thinks he may know about a brother. Family members are often the last to know or more importantly, the most in denial.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/02/...edCoverage&region=EndOfArticle&pgtype=article

 

[JudgeJudi]

RSBM

He rented a suite with the girlfriend's comp card or casino debit card as it was described. It wasn't two rooms.

There are in fact two rooms. Note the wording "King bed in separate bedroom".

http://www.magellanluxuryhotels.com/las-vegas/mandalay-bay-resort-and-casino-las-vegas/rooms/#rooms

 

[bluesneakers]

News reports indicate he had lost about 30K at the casinos recently. He liked to gamble, his profession was that of an accountant and he was/had invested in real estate in LV.

He wasn't married. He had a young Malaysian GF who was married to someone else.

It will be interesting to find out how he got all those weapons into the hotel.

Probably through the front door, in their cases, saying he was there for the gun show or they were cameras and other filming equipment (if anyone asked that is). It would be easy, especially if he was there for a few days.

 

[RaynaLoves]

There were two bedrooms but still one room (hotel lingo). If I was to call to rent a "room" at a hotel and was given the option of a suite or a standard, I'm still only renting one room. Like when you rent an apartment you rent one apartment whether it's a one bedroom two bedroom or three bedroom. It's still one apartment.

 

[bluesneakers]

I just listened to the scanner that was posted and all I can do is feel for everyone there, but especially the officers. They have just been through something that has changed them forever. A very good friend who is a new orleans police officer was on duty for Katrina. The thing that has wounded him most was being a helper and people looking to you to help, but he couldn't help enough. That scars more than people give thought to. I hope they are forced to seek couseling for the experience.

Next, in the heavy articloe, there is video from Fox news. There are definitely shards of glass. Its not a clean break in either window.

Also, the person he shot was a security officer in the hallway a good bit of time before the entry into the room. It wasn't at the same time.

Lastly (and someone addressed this) he only rented one room. It was a suite with views on 2 sides of the building. Not rooms down the hall that went from one to another.



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I think the confusion it was one unit/suite he rented that had separate rooms in it.