GUILTY NV - O.J. Simpson charged in Las Vegas armed robbery, 2007

[Trino]

Whoops. You're correct. His daughter was simply present.

 

[Cappy]

"WHAT HAPPENS IN VEGAS, STAYS IN VEGAS"

......like, the Vegas County jail until sentensing. :clap::clap::clap::clap:

 

[TopGunner]

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20231206,00.html

The family of Nicole Brown Simpson, the murdered ex-wife of O.J. Simpson, issued a statement Saturday, a day after the former gridiron star was found guilty of 12 criminal charges related to a Sept. 2007 armed-robbery incident in a Las Vegas casino-hotel room.

"Our family would like to thank everyone across the country for their thoughts and prayers as we work through many mixed emotions," said the Brown family. "Our focus is on the children Sydney and Justin, whom we deeply love and cherish, and ask for the understanding of privacy at this time."

 

[Linda7NJ]

that was my very first trial13 yrs ago. I watched every second of it ...........the day the verdict was read something in me died, it was profound and changed me forever.

I can't even imagine what it must have been like for the goldmans....or nicholes family. I hope it brings them even a little comfort knowing oj is sleeping on a two inch thick mattress and getting strip searched. I know it warms my heart a little

 

[thatswhatshesaid]

Don't let the cell door hit 'ya on the way in OJ. No wait, on second thought....

Thank you prosecution and jury members. :clap:

What more can I say? Oh, yeah. :woohoo:

 

[CaliKid]

Justice is sweet- hurray for the jury! I hope OJ spends the rest of his life in prison.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

It was a sweet day for Lady Justice. I think I saw her smile as a little tear fell onto her gown. GUILTY never sounded like music before.

 

[CaliKid]

:biglaugh::Banane21::dance::Banane45::woohoo:I have spoken with numerous friends all day who have been waiting 13 years for OJ to get his comeuppance. Everyone I know is doing a happydance.

This is for Nicole and Ron! Thirteen long years for justice for them.:biglaugh::Banane21::dance::Banane45::woohoo:

 

[Openmyeyes]

I'm ashamed to admit that I was only interested in the verdict of this trial. Am I happy, very much so. He was a then and this case just proves that he continues to be one to this day.

I think its wonderful that this smug is where he truly belongs -- behind bars.

 

[mymeow]

This is the best news I have heard in a long time! It's not an issue of "revenge," it's all about a piece of man who has a history of committing crimes. Some he got away with, but this time ...he couldn't slip through the justice system. God Bless those prosecutors, jurors and the judge.
I, too, was changed by the verdict in his murder trial but held out hope that one day he would trip himself up and justice would be served.
Throw his sorry, murdering, good for nothing *advertiser censored* in jail and throw away the frickin' key!

 

[st. crispian]

Hallo All,

Did anyone have the opportunity to hear Yale Galanter being interviewed last evening after the verdict was read, outside the courthouse? I was watching the interview via the LasVegasNow.com stream.

I can't remember exactly how it went and I sure wish I had a recording of it. I don't know whether Yale brought it up, or the person doing the interview did. Somehow the "13" bit came up. I believe that Yale mentioned not only the 13 years, BUT I believe that he also brought up 13 hours of deliberation. He then said something to the effect that "there must be a higher power at work." Did anyone else hear that besides me? I could hardly believe my ears that "he," in particular, said that. ...... snipped

Yes! I heard it and I, too, was SHOCKED!!!!!! What a Freudian slip! Galanter kind of chuckled and said, "maybe there is a higher power." Clearly admitting that OJ had this coming, clearly stating that the "higher power" took over in meting out justice to OJ because mortal powers had not been able to.

What's odd is that the remark has disappeared from any public record. I have googled it and I cannot find a mention of it anywhere. I bet Yale is sweating bullets.

 

[Dark Knight]

From the AP via Yahoo.com news:

In a city where luck means everything, O.J. Simpson came out the big loser — and his unlucky number in a case full of bizarre twists was 13.
He was convicted of an armed robbery that happened on Sept. 13 and was found guilty on the 13th anniversary of his Los Angeles murder acquittal. The Las Vegas jury deliberated for 13 hours after a 13-day trial.

 

[poco]

From the AP via Yahoo.com news:

In a city where luck means everything, O.J. Simpson came out the big loser — and his unlucky number in a case full of bizarre twists was 13.
He was convicted of an armed robbery that happened on Sept. 13 and was found guilty on the 13th anniversary of his Los Angeles murder acquittal. The Las Vegas jury deliberated for 13 hours after a 13-day trial.

WOW!!!! Talk about poetic justice!!!! Love it!!!!

 

[LaMer]

that was my very first trial13 yrs ago. I watched every second of it ...........the day the verdict was read something in me died, it was profound and changed me forever.

I can't even imagine what it must have been like for the goldmans....or nicholes family. I hope it brings them even a little comfort knowing oj is sleeping on a two inch thick mattress and getting strip searched. I know it warms my heart a little

Same here Linda, it was my very first trial! Watched every min as I was home recovering a broken arm/shoulder. I wasn't surprised by the verdict back then, but was also so sicken by it. He finally did it, done himself in, only a matter of time, the time is here! :behindbar :woohoo:

Golfing days are now over for OJ :dance:

:angel: For Nicole :angel: For Ron

 

[twinkiesmom]

Ahem! 61 is NOT elderly these days. Take it from someone who knows.:crazy:

I was referring to our 80-something ex-Illinois gov Ryan.

But the same thing holds true for Simpson...given that his crimes may end up being a life sentence, any time spent out on appeal at this point is time not likely to be served.

 

[Wrinkles]

Hello St. Crispian and All,

St. Crispian, thanks for letting us know that you also saw/heard the "Galanter" and "higher power" thing. As shocked as I was to hear that, it is nice to know I wasn't the only one to hear it (I would have thought I was losing my last marble

BTW, evidently someone else saw/heard what we did and wrote it up on an msn.com board. Here is what they remembered and wrote (I cannot recall the exact quote):

>>Even Yale Galanter noted the irony that the guilty verdict yesterday came on the 13th anniversary of his acquital in the murder trial. Galanter went on to say, "It was eerie. Almost like a higher power was making a statement." <<

As I think of it, I have to wonder if that was just a "Freudian slip" or in some way intentional. In the appeals process can't someone say I didn't win my case because my attorney didn't do a good job because of a, b and c? So was Galanter trying to throw a little "help" on appeal? Might this be possible?

Also, I'm wondering if anyone can speak to the appeals process in a criminal case such as this. Sadly, I am uneducated about it an do not fully understand. Does an appeal in this matter get submitted to a higher Nevada court or a Federal court? How long does this process usually take in the court to which it will be appealed?

Also, thinking of sentencing, what might we expect? Isn't kidnapping a Federal offense? Perhaps not in this case? These men were not transported across state lines by their kidnappers, but they were "lured" across them (i.e. out of their home states), then detained by force and threat of violence. OJ was found guilty of "conspiracy to commit kidnapping."

Can anyone well informed about the appeals process tell us what might occur at this point? My hope is that it will be a long long time before an appeal can even be heard and that OJ must, at least, remain incarcerated until that time.

Also, we have heard that this could be sentencing of from 5 years to life (who calculated that, or how did they?) I'd be very curious as to what the actual sentencing of years might be. I was trying to look up Nevada law, and am not very good at that. I found this:

http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-200.html#NRS200Sec310

I was trying to figure out what the "conspiracy to commit kidnapping" might yield "in years" at a minimum. Is this a category A or B felony (NRS 200.310 Degrees) or something else?

Here were the counts:
Count 1 - Conspiracy to Commit a Crime (Gross Misdemeanor) - Guilty
Count 2 - Conspiracy to Commit Kidnapping - Guilty
Count 3 - Conspiracy to Commit Robbery - Guilty
Count 4 - Burglary While in Possession of Deadly Weapon - Guilty
Count 5 - First Degree Kidnapping With Use of a Deadly Weapon - Guilty
Count 6 - First Degree Kidnapping With Use of a Deadly Weapon - Guilty
Count 7 - Robbery With Use of a Deadly Weapon - Guilty
Count 8 - Robbery With Use of a Deadly Weapon - Guilty
Count 9 - Assault With a Deadly Weapon - Guilty
Count 10 - Assault With a Deadly Weapon - Guilty
Count 11 - Coercion With Use of a Deadly Weapon - Guilty
Count 12 - Coercion With Use of a Deadly Weapon - Guilty<<

As I look at kidnapping category B (2nd degree), I see: "2 years and a maximum term of not more than 15 years"

As I look at kidnapping category A (1st degree), I see:
"2. Where the kidnapped person suffers no substantial bodily harm as a result of the kidnapping, by imprisonment in the state prison:
(a) For life with the possibility of parole, with eligibility for parole beginning when a minimum of 5 years has been served; or
(b) For a definite term of 15 years, with eligibility for parole beginning when a minimum of 5 years has been served."

Then there is "Conspiracy to commit robbery":
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-200.html

I see this: "A person who commits robbery is guilty of a category B felony and shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 2 years and a maximum term of not more than 15 years."

Then burglary:
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-205.html#NRS205Sec060

Does this apply?
>> 4. A person convicted of burglary who has in his possession or gains possession of any firearm or deadly weapon at any time during the commission of the crime, at any time before leaving the structure or upon leaving the structure, is guilty of a category B felony and shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 2 years and a maximum term of not more than 15 years, and may be further punished by a fine of not more than $10,000.<<

So how about "all of the charges." I believe that the doubles we see were because there were two victims.

Does anyone have a particularly good idea of what we might actually see in terms of a sentence? Will the judge sentence on her own (what is her record in terms of sentencing, anyone know?), or does the jury have anything to do with it? How about our guesses for a sentence?

My guess (and I hope I am wrong)... Well, as much as I would like to see life without the possibility of parole, I think we might see 15 years with possible parole in 5 years. What are your educated opinions or guesses?

Wrinkles

 

[Wrinkles]

Hmmm, check this article out:

>>According to Simpson, the need to save for his children's college fund has led him to abandon the hunt for "the real killer" of their mother and Ron Goldman. "I no longer have the money to pay to follow up these leads," he told the AP. Nonsense, says Denise Brown, who complains Simpson wants to cover only one-third of Sydney's tuition, room and board, which total $40,000 a year. "The rest has to come out of the money Nicole left to Sydney," she says. "He gets $25,000 a month from his pensions—why can't he pay her tuition?" Simpson's lawyer Yale Galanter responds: "These are private matters that should be kept within the family." Brown also criticizes Simpson's plan to accompany Sydney to Boston to help her settle in. "I hope my mom talks him out of it," she says. "I wish he'd just let Sydney live her own life." <<

So, on +$300,000 retirement income, he cannot afford to pay 40K for tuition? Oh and of course this doesn't include income you can almost bet he is making from offshore accounts and other "under the table" things.

Well, now we know what he meant about "managing" to get the kids through college. He meant managing to keep his money and have the wife he murdered pay for the children's college. We also know his excuse to not hunt for the real killers, i.e. because he has to cough up so little to help the children through college. What a guy.

Wrinkles

 

[songline]

:behindbar: Finally, he is where he belongs.

Oh, I believe we will most likely be hearing from the Goldmans.....soon.

I don't expect the Browns to comment (except maybe Denise!), as they have kept their silence all these years.

The idiots who prosecuted him and the cops who screwed up the investigation so many years ago, I could care less to hear from them. :furious:

Where is Sarah Palin now! I wanted to here that GOTCHA!!!! instead of Betcha!
Anyway, it must have been such a relive for the Goldman's I would have loved to see their faces when they got the news. I did hear that Mr. Goldman said something like Finally he is going away but not for the right crime, I only hope he will spend the rest of his life there.

ME TOO Mr. Goldman many of us say Me too!!!!!

Half of OJs team is dead, his lawyer died of Cancer.
I do believe that God works in mysterious ways;

I sure wonder how God will handle Bush & Chaney,
Greed in never revered by the One.
Those two need to be in jail too.

 

[songline]

From the AP via Yahoo.com news:

In a city where luck means everything, O.J. Simpson came out the big loser — and his unlucky number in a case full of bizarre twists was 13.
He was convicted of an armed robbery that happened on Sept. 13 and was found guilty on the 13th anniversary of his Los Angeles murder acquittal. The Las Vegas jury deliberated for 13 hours after a 13-day trial.

He better hope they do not put him in cell #13 :slap:

 

[SanJoaquinValleyGirl]

stays in Vegas, Guess that is exactly where he will be staying for awhile Woo HOO !!!:woohoo: