GUILTY NV - Tammy Meyers, 44, fatally shot at her Las Vegas home, 12 Feb 2015 - #5

[Miss Muffet]

How can you know that? He puts them on Starboard which is 8 minutes away

That's silly since the shooting didn't occur there. Maybe you had difficulty following that part of the testimony. They did quite a bit of driving between Starboard and when they stopped for the first shooting. You do know which street they were on for the shooting, right? They were on Villa Monterey. This is what he said about what the buick did to get home after the shooting was over:

Q. Now after that vehicle made the right, can
you pick it up again as to what your mother did?
A. She headed home, she pulled in reverse,
like I said she's about a car length away from the
street that we went up towards home, so she put it in
reverse, went up the street, turned left on Carmel Peak
and then right onto our street.
Q. So you were relatively a short distance
from home when this occurred?
A. Yes.

She backed up a car length and turned onto Cherry River heading west, then made a left onto Carmel Peak and a right onto Mt. Shasta.

This is consistent with what was stated in the warrant for this part too.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Well, don't tell anyone this but i have a very bad habit of keeping my purse in my car. I live in a safe rural area though-- certainly not a neighborhood in las vegas with known drug and suspected gang activity.

Sure, it probably means she was in the car.

But it doesn't rule out that she left her purse in there from a previous car ride.


(Just making the point... Since I could)...

 

[Miss Muffet]

I don't think BM even claims that, but says it was part of the chase and they didn't back up until they were fired upon. I don't know what the expected outcome of this was other than someone getting shot at as short of that TM allegedly wasn't backing off.

I'm saying it contradicts RM claiming she was innocently driving home. I think that's relevant to point out how BM's testimony disproves RM's claims of an an innocent drive to see a scene of an incident and then being ambused on the way home. And BM might not have outright claimed it but he did tame down his high speed chase part of his testimony this time (compared to the warrant) so I'm betting he's leaning towards trying to make it a more innocent drive to the scene of the incident and then encountering the Audi on the way home. But the fact they passed Cherry River proves they weren't on their way home, but following the Audi instead.

 

[SStarr33]

That's silly since the shooting didn't occur there. Maybe you had difficulty following that part of the testimony. They did quite a bit of driving between Starboard and when they stopped for the first shooting. You do know which street they were on for the shooting, right? They were on Villa Monterey. This is what he said about what the buick did to get home after the shooting was over:

Q. Now after that vehicle made the right, can
you pick it up again as to what your mother did?
A. She headed home, she pulled in reverse,
like I said she's about a car length away from the
street that we went up towards home, so she put it in
reverse, went up the street, turned left on Carmel Peak
and then right onto our street.
Q. So you were relatively a short distance
from home when this occurred?
A. Yes.

She backed up a car length and turned onto Cherry River heading west, then made a left onto Carmel Peak and a right onto Mt. Shasta.

This is consistent with what was stated in the warrant for this part too.

yes, I read that but I also read about starboard and starborn

 

[SeeAlice]

You must have missed my correction. BTW, what year is the El Camino that he sold and what year is the reward El Camino? I asked earlier and got no response. Go figure.

Thread 1 page 3 has the "reward" El Camino info.

(Which begs the question: WHO did he think would rat someone out for an El Camino?

"The guy driving the Audi?"
The KK girl? That guy Z? The perp's mom or granny?
KM or BrM? Stan the Man?

Maybe some homeless guy living in the park might want a free car that runs but there's not much room to live or store your stuff in an El Camino.

Was it offered in hopes of making the public think, "Wow, what a wonderful guy" or did he sincerely think that would inspire people to trawl Walmart & casino parking lots looking for "a silver 4-door subcompact car with damage to the front end and maybe a bullet hole on it somewhere"?

Anybody know how the timing of that El Camino reward announcement lined up with the ComeFundMe fiasco?

btw - Has anyone found "Barbara" yet?

JMO

 

[SStarr33]

I'm saying it contradicts RM claiming she was innocently driving home. I think that's relevant to point out how BM's testimony disproves RM's claims of an an innocent drive to see a scene of an incident and then being ambused on the way home. And BM might not have outright claimed it but he did tame down his high speed chase part of his testimony this time so I'm betting he's leaning towards trying to make it a more innocent drive to the scene of the incident and then encountering the Audi on the way home. But the fact they passed Cherry River proves they weren't on their way home, but following the Audi instead.

How can he do that when both the warrant and the GJ testimony say they passed Cherry river and backed up after EN tried to murder them the first time?

 

[Miss Muffet]

How can he do that when both the warrant and the GJ testimony say they passed Cherry river and backed up after EN tried to murder them the first time?

The route home from the scene of the "incident/small accident/road rage" scenario to their house would have required them turning right onto Cherry River instead of going straight before stopping for the shooting. The buick stopping past Cherry River proves they were following the Audi instead of innocently driving home from the scene of the "incident/small accident/road rage" scenario as RM claims.

 

[SStarr33]

Thread 1 page 3 has the "reward" El Camino info.

(Which begs the question: WHO did he think would rat someone out for an El Camino?

"The guy driving the Audi?"
The KK girl? That guy Z? The perp's mom or granny?
KM or BrM? Stan the Man?

Maybe some homeless guy living in the park might want a free car that runs but there's not much room to live or store your stuff in an El Camino.

Was it offered in hopes of making the public think, "Wow, what a wonderful guy" or did he sincerely think that would inspire people to trawl Walmart & casino parking lots looking for "a silver 4-door subcompact car with damage to the front end and maybe a bullet hole on it somewhere"?

Anybody know how the timing of that El Camino reward announcement lined up with the ComeFundMe fiasco?

btw - Has anyone found "Barbara" yet?

JMO

The point is that the victim bashers are wrong about him selling the el camino to pay her medical bills. I can't discuss the details because they are on a page we cannot discuss, but some minor sleuthing will prove this to be true.

btw--why would we want to find the friend of a victim whose brains were splattered in her front yard? What is the plan to do to her when found?

PS, different people have different opinions on the type of vehicle they like.

 

[SStarr33]

The route home from the scene of the "incident/small accident/road rage" scenario to their house would have required them turning right onto Cherry River instead of going straight before stopping for the shooting. The buick stopping past Cherry River proves they were following the Audi instead of innocently driving home from the scene of the "incident/small accident/road rage" scenario as RM claims.

I missed where he said that was not the case.

 

[PaperDoll]

Well, don't tell anyone this but i have a very bad habit of keeping my purse in my car. I live in a safe rural area though-- certainly not a neighborhood in las vegas with known drug and suspected gang activity.

Sure, it probably means she was in the car.

But it doesn't rule out that she left her purse in there from a previous car ride.


(Just making the point... Since I could)...

LOL, yes you can make a point However, TM was the one who was killed, by a bullet, that night right next to her car. And, through the whole testimony/statements it was said she was the one driving so I'm going to go with the fact, as I know it, that she indeed was in the car. I really don't think she would have had the time to run out of the house to see what was going on.

 

[Hiandmighty]

I agree. Just filing that point away for later just in case the story changes again... (Though it is getting to the point where it can't because statements have been released...)

 

[PaperDoll]

I missed where he said that was not the case.

BM Statement:
Now after that vehicle made the right, canyou pick it up again as to what your mother did?
A. She headed home, she pulled in reverse,
like I said she's about a car length away from the
street that we went up towards home, so she put it in
reverse, went up the street, turned left on Carmel Peak
and then right onto our street.
Q. So you were relatively a short distance
from home when this occurred?
A. Yes.

 

[SStarr33]

BM Statement:
Now after that vehicle made the right, canyou pick it up again as to what your mother did?
A. She headed home, she pulled in reverse,
like I said she's about a car length away from the
street that we went up towards home, so she put it in
reverse, went up the street, turned left on Carmel Peak
and then right onto our street.
Q. So you were relatively a short distance
from home when this occurred?
A. Yes.

Right, but wasn't that after the shooting? I think MM is talking about before.

 

[PaperDoll]

Right, but wasn't that after the shooting? I think MM is talking about before.

From my understanding it was when the Buick followed the Audi down Villa MOnterey towards Alta (the 1st shooting). The Buick passed Cherry River, the Audi stopped closer to Alta when the shots were fired. The Buick had to back up to go back to Cherry River then home

 

[SStarr33]

From my understanding it was when the Buick followed the Audi down Villa MOnterey towards Alta (the 1st shooting). The Buick passed Cherry River, the Audi stopped closer to Alta when the shots were fired. The Buick had to back up to go back to Cherry River then home

Yes, that is my understanding too. The going home part that you posted about above is after the shooting.

 

[sonjay]

How do you explain how BM and KM could have coordinated this part of the story when they had very limited time before the ambulance and LE arrived, not to mention they would be focused on TM's condition during that time period?

Easy. KM was in the car the whole time. They just agreed that she would tell the story as a driving lesson/road rage incident instead of a going-hunting-for-EN trip, with BM not in the car.

Then KM had to wing it, since they did have such a limited time to work on her story. That's why her story has been so weird and inconsistent. She's only 15 and she doesn't have a lot of practice at making up stories to cover up an armed hunt. That's why it was 2 black males and a white guy, then 2 white guys, then 1 white guy. That's why she can't keep straight whether there was an actual accident or not. And so forth.

 

[sonjay]

I'm saying it contradicts RM claiming she was innocently driving home. I think that's relevant to point out how BM's testimony disproves RM's claims of an an innocent drive to see a scene of an incident and then being ambused on the way home. And BM might not have outright claimed it but he did tame down his high speed chase part of his testimony this time (compared to the warrant) so I'm betting he's leaning towards trying to make it a more innocent drive to the scene of the incident and then encountering the Audi on the way home. But the fact they passed Cherry River proves they weren't on their way home, but following the Audi instead.

Yes, that's a very good point, and I had missed the significance of the fact that they had passed Cherry River when the 1st shooting happened. You're absolutely right; BM cannot claim they were innocently driving home and were ambushed. If they were, they would have turned at Cherry.

Of course, BM isn't claiming that anyway. RM is. BM is actually describing a chase, even though he doesn't use that word.

 

[sonjay]

btw--why would we want to find the friend of a victim whose brains were splattered in her front yard? What is the plan to do to her when found?

I'm wondering why a victim had been out hunting for a neighbor kid with her armed son. What was her plan to do to EN when she found him?

Edited to remove the horribly tasteless wording from my reply. I can't bear to see it attributed to me.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Im reading through this once in a while. I keep hoping to come here and see a post that makes this whole case make sense.
I don't see that yet.

 

[SStarr33]

I'm wondering why a victim had been out hunting for a neighbor kid with her armed son. What was her plan to do to EN when she found him?

Edited to remove the horribly tasteless wording from my reply. I can't bear to see it attributed to me.

I don't think she thought it through, since once she found him and he tried to slaughter her the first time, she retreated. Obviously she made a mistake that she paid for with her life.