NY – Ex POTUS Donald Trump, sued by E. Jean Carroll, DT found liable re sexual assault, $5M award, countersuit dismissed, appeal rejected, 2023

[Stunned]

Think how irrational his cult followers are: he is very wealthy yet they send him their hard earned money-- it is unreal

IMO, he’s wealthy because of his supporters.

 

[JerseyGirl]

In E. Jean Carroll's lawsuit accusing Trump of rape, lawyers make closing arguments

Trump "has an M.O." — targeting women in "semi-public" places and "grabbing" their genitals, Carroll's attorney said in closing arguments. Trump's lawyer said Carroll's story "is a lie."

www.cbsnews.com

Attorneys for Trump did not call any witnesses and he did not testify in the trial. Tacopina said that was because challenging Carroll's "story is our defense." He added, "There were no witnesses to call."

"Donald Trump doesn't have a story to tell other than to say it was a lie," Tacopina said.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Trump lawyer calls writer’s rape claim an ‘affront to justice’ in closing arguments

Former President Trump’s attorney Monday called writer E. Jean Carroll’s claim that Trump raped her decades ago an “affront to justice” that minimizes “real rape victims.” In his closing argu…

thehill.com

Former President Trump’s attorney Monday called writer E. Jean Carroll’s claim that Trump raped her decades ago an “affront to justice” that minimizes “real rape victims.”

In his closing arguments, Joe Tacopina dismissed Carroll’s federal civil trial against Trump as a “scam of a lawsuit” based on an “unbelievable story.”

“What they want is for you to hate him enough to ignore the facts,” Tacopina said.

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

Trump lawyer calls writer’s rape claim an ‘affront to justice’ in closing arguments

Former President Trump’s attorney Monday called writer E. Jean Carroll’s claim that Trump raped her decades ago an “affront to justice” that minimizes “real rape victims.” In his closing argu…

thehill.com

Former President Trump’s attorney Monday called writer E. Jean Carroll’s claim that Trump raped her decades ago an “affront to justice” that minimizes “real rape victims.”

In his closing arguments, Joe Tacopina dismissed Carroll’s federal civil trial against Trump as a “scam of a lawsuit” based on an “unbelievable story.”

“What they want is for you to hate him enough to ignore the facts,” Tacopina said.

RBBM - What they want is for the facts to make us hate him.

 

[Twistinginthewind]

Can't wait to do a verdict watch on this case !

It might seem somewhat 'ghostlike' what with an anonymous jury and a defendant who didn't attend his own trial and didn't testify on his own behalf regarding any of the criminal charges against him, yet who embodies a very high profile person

Can you say "ghosting" ?

JMO

 

[TootsieFootsie]

The title says Verdict Watch now, so is the jury now considering their verdict, or has it not started yet ?

 

[Auntie Cipation]

The title says Verdict Watch now, so is the jury now considering their verdict, or has it not started yet ?

The title is a tiny bit premature -- the judge will give the jury their instructions tomorrow morning, THEN they will start deliberations and we'll be on verdict watch.

 

[x_files]

How does ANYONE even ask a woman that? How does he even find these lawyers? At his club? They appall me! IMO

He finds other sleazebags that think rape is OK.
GROSS.

 

[SouthAussie]

The title says Verdict Watch now, so is the jury now considering their verdict, or has it not started yet ?

The closing arguments have ended. The jury will hear instructions on the law, at 10am Tuesday, then go into deliberations.

With Closing Arguments Complete, the Jury is Next in Trump Rape Trial

After two weeks, a jury is about to consider whether the former president should be held liable for a sexual assault that the plaintiff says happened decades ago.

www.nytimes.com

 

[SeesSeas]

Last time Trump lawyer Joe Tacopina called a rape accuser greedy and crazy he won. It's a different world now.

Trump's top legal bulldog once cleared a cop of rape by calling the accuser greedy and mentally troubled. With E. Jean Carroll, it's different now.

www.businessinsider.com

May 1, 2023
[...]
Why didn't she use the word "rape" when she called a girlfriend, minutes after the incident? Why didn't she seek medical attention, even to check for sexually-transmitted diseases?

How did she push a much larger Trump away from her in the dressing room — managing, as she described it, to raise her right leg high enough to knee him in the hip while balancing on her left leg, and all the while wearing four-inch heels?

Could she have managed this balancing act, as she described it to jurors, with her pulled-down tights around her thighs, and without losing hold, in her right hand, of a black leather Coach handbag with "stand up handles?"
[...]
Wouldn't someone concocting an imaginary rape, as Tacopina and Trump describe her, come up with a story that was far less odd? One without four-inch heels and a never-abandoned handbag?
[...]

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

I thought it was a very good rebuttal by attorney Ferrara. This was a good point.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1655655669473615876

Here are Klasfeld's reports for the day.

'He didn't even bother to show up': E. Jean Carroll's lawyer skewers absent Donald Trump and his 'Big Lie' as rape trial wraps

"He didn't even bother to show up in person," E. Jean Carroll's lawyer Roberta Kaplan told jurors, one day after that absence became official.

lawandcrime.com

'Game, set and match': Trump's lawyer shows jurors message he calls 'lethal' to E. Jean Carroll's case

Donald Trump's attorney Joe Tacopina displayed an email from Martin that he called "lethal" to E. Jean Carroll's case — from a friend backing up her story.

lawandcrime.com

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

A few more articles.

Donald Trump Rape Trial Ready for the Jury

The judge will deliver instructions on Tuesday morning.

nymag.com

E. Jean Carroll’s lawyer uses Trump’s infamous words against him in closing arguments at civil rape trial; ‘He thinks he can get away with it’

Donald Trump’s most infamous words were used against him Monday as a Manhattan jury was asked to hold him legally accountable for raping writer E. Jean Carroll 25 years ago and defaming her w…

www.nydailynews.com

The Trump rape trial is headed to the jury. Here are the questions jurors will weigh.

Lawyers for E. Jean Carroll and Donald Trump presented more than four hours of closing arguments on Monday.

www.politico.com

 

[Twistinginthewind]

Trump's absence at civil rape trial shows 'he did it,' accuser's lawyer says

Trump's absence at civil rape trial shows 'he did it,' accuser's lawyer says​

"Donald Trump's absence from a trial where writer E. Jean Carroll accuses him of rape and defamation shows that "he did it," a lawyer for Carroll said on Monday, while Trump's lawyer told jurors the case was "outrageous."

"He never looked you in the eye and denied raping Ms. Carroll," lawyer Mike Ferrara told jurors as the civil trial in Manhattan federal court neared the end of an eighth day. "You should draw the conclusion that that's because he did it."

 

[Niner]

The title is a tiny bit premature -- the judge will give the jury their instructions tomorrow morning, THEN they will start deliberations and we'll be on verdict watch.

It is my fault - I told @JerseyGirl yesterday that the jury would start deliberations today - and she changed the title... I shall take the blame...

 

[Niner]

Tuesday, May 9th:
*Trial continues (Day 9)-VERDICT WATCH! (Day 1) (@ 10am ET) - New York – E. Jean Carrol’s battery (sexual assault/rape), emotional distress & a 2nd act of defamation (for Trump's comments on Truth Social in October) lawsuit against Donald John Trump.
The lawsuit for defamation & under a New York law which allows alleged victims of sexual assault to sue over alleged crimes outside the usual statute of limitations.
Trump lawyers: Joseph Tacopina, Alina Habba & W. Perry Brandt.
U.S. District of Manhattan / U.S. District Judge Lewis A. Kaplan.
Carroll has sued Trump for defamation & for rape, saying Trump turned a friendly encounter at a luxury Manhattan department store in late 1995 or early 1996 into a violent rape.
Trial began on 4/25/23 with jury selection. 9 jurors (6 jurors & 3 alternates) (3 women & 6 men). (see post #108 page 6 for jury info). And ended on 5/8/23.
Trial expected to last 5 to 10 days.
Charge conference at 9am on 5/8/23. Then summations at 10am Monday, with a shorten lunch & get them done before we are done for the day. The charge will be an hour on Tuesday, 5/9/23 & then the jury will begin deliberations.
Defamation charges postponed by Judge Lewis Kaplan on 3/30/23. Carroll's first defamation lawsuit against Trump was filed in November 2019. But that case has been put on hold while Trump argues that a federal law protects him from being sued for defamation for comments he made while president.
Case info from 2/15/23 thru 4/23/23 & Trial Day 1-7 (4/25-5/4/23, no court on 5/5/23) reference post #467 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...d-defamation-trial-25-apr-2023.673736/page-24
5/8/23 Monday, Trial Day 8: Defense Joe Tacopino calls no witnesses.
The arguments are scheduled to take up most of the day; the jury is not expected to begin deliberations until Tuesday.
Closing argument by plaintiff attorney Roberta Kaplan & defense attorney Joe Tacopico. Rebuttal by plaintiff attorney Mike Ferrara. Judge Kaplan gave the jury instructions.
for more info see posts #479 & 480 [pg 24] & 481, 483, 484, 490, 492 & 493 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...-for-battery-trial-25-apr-2023.673736/page-25
Trial continues on Tuesday, 5/9/23 with jury deliberations starting.

 

[SeesSeas]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/politics/carroll-trump-jury-deliberations/index.html

What E. Jean Carroll has to prove to win her case against Donald Trump​

Published 5:00 AM EDT, Tue May 9, 2023
[...]

What Carroll has to prove​

Carroll filed the lawsuit last November under the “New York State Adult Survivors Act,” a state bill which opened a look-back window for sexual assault allegations like Carroll’s with long-expired statutes of limitation.

This is not a criminal trial. In a civil suit like Carroll’s, the jury must determine whether Carroll’s legal team proved that Trump committed battery against Carroll by a preponderance of the evidence.

To prove her defamation claim, the jury must find that Carroll’s legal team proved by the preponderance of the evidence that Trump knew it was false when he published the statement about Carroll last year and knowingly exposed her to public ridicule. They must also determine that she proved by clear and convincing evidence that the statement was false, and that Trump made the statement with actual malice.

Both the preponderance of the evidence standard and the clear and convincing evidence standard are not as high a standard as proof beyond a reasonable doubt, which is used in criminal cases. Clear and convincing evidence is higher than preponderance of the evidence, which means more likely than not. Clear and convincing evidence leaves no substantial doubt in the juror’s mind and establishes that the proposition is highly probable.

The jury must be unanimous to reach a verdict but can reach a different verdict on each of the two claims – battery and defamation.
[...]

 

[legalmomma]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1655937960968335362

 

[happyday]

Boy am I watching this one! Hoping for a quick, unanimous verdict!

 

[legalmomma]

Just...wow, the lies keep coming

https://twitter.com/x/status/1655941702002298889

 

[legalmomma]

"One cannot imagine that Judge Kaplan, or Trump's attorney Joe Tacopina, will be happy about this. Currently on Truth Social, just before the jury gets the case. (Note: Trump was repeatedly "allowed to speak and defend" himself — and chose not to testify.)"

https://twitter.com/x/status/1655947222356471809