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I doubt he is appealing because there is an actual cause to appeal, but to delay, delay, delay until it all just disappears. jmo
NY – Ex POTUS Donald Trump, sued by E. Jean Carroll for defamation, Trial 15 Jan 2024
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Oh good I can shorten this up a bit now! 
Friday, Sept 6th:
*Oral Argument Hearing (Appeal) (@ am ET) - New York – E. Jean Carroll vs. Donald John Trump. Amended complaint against Trump seeking new damages of at least $10 million, based in part on comments Trump made during a CNN town hall on 5/10/23.
U.S. District of Manhattan 1:20-cv-07311
U.S. District Judge Lewis A. Kaplan presiding. Trump’s attorneys Alina Habba & Michael T. Madaio. Carroll’s attorneys Roberta Kaplan & Shawn Crowley.
These defamation charges were postponed by Judge Lewis Kaplan on 3/30/23. Carroll's first defamation lawsuit against Trump was filed in November 2019. But that case has been put on hold while Trump argues that a federal law protects him from being sued for defamation for comments he made while president. And was amended to Trump’s comments made on 5/10/23.
Trial began on 1/16/24 with jury selection. Trial began on 1/16/24 & ended on 1/26/24 with closing arguments. 9 jurors selected. State & Defense rested their cases on 1/25/24. Closing arguments on 1/26/24. 1/26/24: Jury started deliberations @ 1:40pm ET & ended @ ~4:30pm (2 hours & 45 minutes of deliberations). Trump MUST pay #83.3 million to Carroll.
Case info from 5/22/23 thru 1/16/24 & Trial Day 1-5 (1/16-1/25/24) & thru 1/25/24 reference post #199 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...r-defamation-trial-15-jan-2024.690440/page-10
1/26/24 Friday, Trial Day 6: Closing arguments by Carroll’s attorney Roberta Kaplan. [Trump walks out in the middle of her closing & returned before start of defense]. Defense attorney Alina Habba. Carroll’s attorney Shawn Crowley gave rebuttal.
Judge Lewis Kaplan instructed the jury on the law, nine jurors began deliberating how much money, if any, Trump should pay in damages for making two defamatory statements about Carroll in 2019. Told them they can deliberate during lunch also. In filings to the court, Carroll's lawyers have indicated they're seeking at least $10 million in damages, but their statements to the jury have reflected a potentially higher number based on Trump's repeated defamatory statements during the two-week jury trial. Carroll's lawyers argued that Trump made 22 defamatory statements last Tuesday, when opening arguments were delivered in the case & that overall he's made more than 100 defamatory statements, both in & out of court, during the two-week trial.
Following Judge Lewis Kaplan's instructions to jury members, the jury has retired to deliberate. The judge gave the parties 45 minutes to get lunch, so the court will not accept a jury note or a verdict until starting at 2:25pm ET. If there is no verdict by 4:30pm ET, court will break for the day unless the jury signals a desire to stay later.
For more info see post #201 (article) here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...r-defamation-trial-15-jan-2024.690440/page-11
The jury (7 men & 2 women) deliberated for 2 hours & 45 minutes & reach a verdict. Trump to pay Carroll $83.3 million. The jury determined that Trump must pay $18.3 million in compensatory damages and $65 million in punitive damages.
For more info see post #229 (article) here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...r-defamation-trial-15-jan-2024.690440/page-12
For Trump to appeal this verdict he has to post an 83.3 million bond as security plus 10%. If he wins the appeal he gets the money back if E J Carroll wins she gets to keep it. Trump had to post a 5+ million bond while appealing his first E J Carroll verdict.
2/7/24 Update: Memorandum Opinion on defendant's Motion for a Mistrial or other relief. [regarding Carrol's deleted e-mail messages pertain to death threats] The Court immediately denied the motion, which was without merit. Later during trial Trump filed a purported letter motion again seeking a mistrial. These requests also were without merit & the Court in effect denied sub delention almost all of the relief sought.
link: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.543790/gov.uscourts.nysd.543790.284.0.pdf
2/23/24 Update: Trump's lawyers asked a New York judge Friday to suspend an $83.3 million defamation verdict against the former president, saying there was a “strong probability” that it would be reduced on appeal, if not eliminated. The lawyers made the request in Manhattan federal court, where a civil jury in late January awarded the sum to advice columnist E. Jean Carroll after a five-day trial that focused only on damages. A judge had ordered the jury to accept the findings of another jury that last year concluded Trump sexually abused Carroll in 1996 and defamed her in 2022. In the filing Friday, Trump’s lawyers wrote that Judge Lewis A. Kaplan should suspend the execution of a judgment he issued on Feb. 8, 2024 until a month after he resolves Trump’s post-trial motions, which will be filed by March 7. Otherwise, they said, he should grant a partially secured stay that would require Trump to post a bond for a fraction of the award.
2/29/24 Update: Plaintiff Carrol's Memorandum of Law in Opposition to Defendant Trump's motion to stay execution of the Judgment pending disposition of the post-trial motions filed by Roberta Kaplan, Matthew J. Craig & Joshua Matz. Carroll's attorneys opposed Trump's motion to delay paying her $83M+, which didn't have a "a single exhibit, declaration, or affidavit-literally no evidence at all".
From the pleading: Almost one month after the jury returned its verdict in this case, Defendant Trump filed yet another motion for a stay—this time, to stay enforcement of the judgment without a bond or any other security that would ensure that Plaintiff E. Jean Carroll’s will be able to collect the $83.3 million that Trump now owes her. The reasoning Trump offers in seeking this extraordinary relief boils down to nothing more than “trust me.” He doesn’t offer any information about his finances or the nature & location of his assets. He doesn’t specify what percentage of his assets are liquid or explain how Carroll might go about collecting. He doesn’t even acknowledge the risks that now accompany his financial situation, from a half billion-dollar judgment obtained by the New York Attorney General to the 91 felony charges that might end his career as a businessman permanently. He simply asks the Court to “trust me” and offers, in a case with an $83.3 million judgment against him, the court filing equivalent of a paper napkin; signed by the least trustworthy of borrowers.
3/6/34 Update: Trump on Wed. afternoon made a fresh push to delay the required 3/11/24 execution of the $83M jury verdict against him, asking for a temporary stay while the judge decides Trump's request for a longer delay.
3/8/24 Update: Judge Kaplan has yet to decide whether Trump can stay enforcement of the $83.3 million Carroll case. But he ruled tonight that he won’t grant even a “temporary administrative stay” because Trump’s “current situation is a result of his own dilatory action.”
3/8/24 Update: Notice of Motion for Approval of Supersedes Bond & Stay of Execution of Judgment pending appeal filed by Alina Habba & D. John Sauer for Trump. On a date to be set by the Court for entry of an Order (1) approvin the supersedeas bond filed herewith in the amount of $91,630,000 & (2) staying execution of the judgment entered in favor of Plaintiff Carrol. Trump secured the bond from the Federal Insurance Company, which is a principal of The Chubb Corporation. 3/8/24 Update: Notice of Appeal filed by Habba & Sauer for Trump to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit from the judgment on 2/8/24 totaling $83.3M.
3/10/24 Update: Trump again attacked Carroll on CNBC this morning as “Miss Bergdorf Goodman,” said it’s a “false accusation” & said he will win on appeal. Robbie Kaplan, main lawyer for Carroll, does not rule out a new defamation suit: "The statute of limitations for defamation in most jurisdictions is between one & three years. As we said after the last jury verdict, we continue to monitor every statement that Trump makes about our client, E. Jean Carroll."
3/11/24 Update: Lawyers for Carroll have requested that Judge Lewis A. Kaplan approve the $91,630,000 bond secured by Trump-subject to one small change in the terms: Reducing the amount of time between the resolution of Trump's appeal & Carroll's payment. From 60 days to 30 days filed y Roberta A. Kaplan.
3/12/24 Update: Judge Lewis Kaplan has now approved the bond in the Carroll case & has ordered that enforcement of the judgment is now stayed pending "final disposition of the appeal" by the 2nd Circuit Court.
4/25/24 Update: An appeals judge ruled against Trump, refusing to grant him a new trial. This follows a ruling from a jury that is forcing Trump to pay author E. Jean Carroll over $80 million for defamation.
9/6/24 Update: Attorneys for Trump will appear before a federal appeals panel on Friday, 9/6/24 to argue that a $5 million judgment finding him liable for sexually abusing & defaming the writer E. Jean Carroll was "unjust" & should be thrown out. In his appeal of the first judgment, which Trump's attorneys are arguing Friday, they claimed the judge issued "flawed & prejudicial evidentiary rulings."
Friday, Sept 6th:
*Oral Argument Hearing (Appeal) (@ am ET) - New York – E. Jean Carroll vs. Donald John Trump. Amended complaint against Trump seeking new damages of at least $10 million, based in part on comments Trump made during a CNN town hall on 5/10/23.
U.S. District of Manhattan 1:20-cv-07311
U.S. District Judge Lewis A. Kaplan presiding. Trump’s attorneys Alina Habba & Michael T. Madaio. Carroll’s attorneys Roberta Kaplan & Shawn Crowley.
These defamation charges were postponed by Judge Lewis Kaplan on 3/30/23. Carroll's first defamation lawsuit against Trump was filed in November 2019. But that case has been put on hold while Trump argues that a federal law protects him from being sued for defamation for comments he made while president. And was amended to Trump’s comments made on 5/10/23.
Trial began on 1/16/24 with jury selection. Trial began on 1/16/24 & ended on 1/26/24 with closing arguments. 9 jurors selected. State & Defense rested their cases on 1/25/24. Closing arguments on 1/26/24. 1/26/24: Jury started deliberations @ 1:40pm ET & ended @ ~4:30pm (2 hours & 45 minutes of deliberations). Trump MUST pay #83.3 million to Carroll.
Case info from 5/22/23 thru 1/16/24 & Trial Day 1-5 (1/16-1/25/24) & thru 1/25/24 reference post #199 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...r-defamation-trial-15-jan-2024.690440/page-10
1/26/24 Friday, Trial Day 6: Closing arguments by Carroll’s attorney Roberta Kaplan. [Trump walks out in the middle of her closing & returned before start of defense]. Defense attorney Alina Habba. Carroll’s attorney Shawn Crowley gave rebuttal.
Judge Lewis Kaplan instructed the jury on the law, nine jurors began deliberating how much money, if any, Trump should pay in damages for making two defamatory statements about Carroll in 2019. Told them they can deliberate during lunch also. In filings to the court, Carroll's lawyers have indicated they're seeking at least $10 million in damages, but their statements to the jury have reflected a potentially higher number based on Trump's repeated defamatory statements during the two-week jury trial. Carroll's lawyers argued that Trump made 22 defamatory statements last Tuesday, when opening arguments were delivered in the case & that overall he's made more than 100 defamatory statements, both in & out of court, during the two-week trial.
Following Judge Lewis Kaplan's instructions to jury members, the jury has retired to deliberate. The judge gave the parties 45 minutes to get lunch, so the court will not accept a jury note or a verdict until starting at 2:25pm ET. If there is no verdict by 4:30pm ET, court will break for the day unless the jury signals a desire to stay later.
For more info see post #201 (article) here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...r-defamation-trial-15-jan-2024.690440/page-11
The jury (7 men & 2 women) deliberated for 2 hours & 45 minutes & reach a verdict. Trump to pay Carroll $83.3 million. The jury determined that Trump must pay $18.3 million in compensatory damages and $65 million in punitive damages.
For more info see post #229 (article) here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...r-defamation-trial-15-jan-2024.690440/page-12
For Trump to appeal this verdict he has to post an 83.3 million bond as security plus 10%. If he wins the appeal he gets the money back if E J Carroll wins she gets to keep it. Trump had to post a 5+ million bond while appealing his first E J Carroll verdict.
2/7/24 Update: Memorandum Opinion on defendant's Motion for a Mistrial or other relief. [regarding Carrol's deleted e-mail messages pertain to death threats] The Court immediately denied the motion, which was without merit. Later during trial Trump filed a purported letter motion again seeking a mistrial. These requests also were without merit & the Court in effect denied sub delention almost all of the relief sought.
link: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.543790/gov.uscourts.nysd.543790.284.0.pdf
2/23/24 Update: Trump's lawyers asked a New York judge Friday to suspend an $83.3 million defamation verdict against the former president, saying there was a “strong probability” that it would be reduced on appeal, if not eliminated. The lawyers made the request in Manhattan federal court, where a civil jury in late January awarded the sum to advice columnist E. Jean Carroll after a five-day trial that focused only on damages. A judge had ordered the jury to accept the findings of another jury that last year concluded Trump sexually abused Carroll in 1996 and defamed her in 2022. In the filing Friday, Trump’s lawyers wrote that Judge Lewis A. Kaplan should suspend the execution of a judgment he issued on Feb. 8, 2024 until a month after he resolves Trump’s post-trial motions, which will be filed by March 7. Otherwise, they said, he should grant a partially secured stay that would require Trump to post a bond for a fraction of the award.
2/29/24 Update: Plaintiff Carrol's Memorandum of Law in Opposition to Defendant Trump's motion to stay execution of the Judgment pending disposition of the post-trial motions filed by Roberta Kaplan, Matthew J. Craig & Joshua Matz. Carroll's attorneys opposed Trump's motion to delay paying her $83M+, which didn't have a "a single exhibit, declaration, or affidavit-literally no evidence at all".
From the pleading: Almost one month after the jury returned its verdict in this case, Defendant Trump filed yet another motion for a stay—this time, to stay enforcement of the judgment without a bond or any other security that would ensure that Plaintiff E. Jean Carroll’s will be able to collect the $83.3 million that Trump now owes her. The reasoning Trump offers in seeking this extraordinary relief boils down to nothing more than “trust me.” He doesn’t offer any information about his finances or the nature & location of his assets. He doesn’t specify what percentage of his assets are liquid or explain how Carroll might go about collecting. He doesn’t even acknowledge the risks that now accompany his financial situation, from a half billion-dollar judgment obtained by the New York Attorney General to the 91 felony charges that might end his career as a businessman permanently. He simply asks the Court to “trust me” and offers, in a case with an $83.3 million judgment against him, the court filing equivalent of a paper napkin; signed by the least trustworthy of borrowers.
3/6/34 Update: Trump on Wed. afternoon made a fresh push to delay the required 3/11/24 execution of the $83M jury verdict against him, asking for a temporary stay while the judge decides Trump's request for a longer delay.
3/8/24 Update: Judge Kaplan has yet to decide whether Trump can stay enforcement of the $83.3 million Carroll case. But he ruled tonight that he won’t grant even a “temporary administrative stay” because Trump’s “current situation is a result of his own dilatory action.”
3/8/24 Update: Notice of Motion for Approval of Supersedes Bond & Stay of Execution of Judgment pending appeal filed by Alina Habba & D. John Sauer for Trump. On a date to be set by the Court for entry of an Order (1) approvin the supersedeas bond filed herewith in the amount of $91,630,000 & (2) staying execution of the judgment entered in favor of Plaintiff Carrol. Trump secured the bond from the Federal Insurance Company, which is a principal of The Chubb Corporation. 3/8/24 Update: Notice of Appeal filed by Habba & Sauer for Trump to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit from the judgment on 2/8/24 totaling $83.3M.
3/10/24 Update: Trump again attacked Carroll on CNBC this morning as “Miss Bergdorf Goodman,” said it’s a “false accusation” & said he will win on appeal. Robbie Kaplan, main lawyer for Carroll, does not rule out a new defamation suit: "The statute of limitations for defamation in most jurisdictions is between one & three years. As we said after the last jury verdict, we continue to monitor every statement that Trump makes about our client, E. Jean Carroll."
3/11/24 Update: Lawyers for Carroll have requested that Judge Lewis A. Kaplan approve the $91,630,000 bond secured by Trump-subject to one small change in the terms: Reducing the amount of time between the resolution of Trump's appeal & Carroll's payment. From 60 days to 30 days filed y Roberta A. Kaplan.
3/12/24 Update: Judge Lewis Kaplan has now approved the bond in the Carroll case & has ordered that enforcement of the judgment is now stayed pending "final disposition of the appeal" by the 2nd Circuit Court.
4/25/24 Update: An appeals judge ruled against Trump, refusing to grant him a new trial. This follows a ruling from a jury that is forcing Trump to pay author E. Jean Carroll over $80 million for defamation.
9/6/24 Update: Attorneys for Trump will appear before a federal appeals panel on Friday, 9/6/24 to argue that a $5 million judgment finding him liable for sexually abusing & defaming the writer E. Jean Carroll was "unjust" & should be thrown out. In his appeal of the first judgment, which Trump's attorneys are arguing Friday, they claimed the judge issued "flawed & prejudicial evidentiary rulings."
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Sauer also said two other women should not have been allowed on the stand. Carroll's attorneys called Jessica Leeds and Natasha Stoynoff, who testified about alleged abuse by Trump that bore similarities to Carroll's accusations.
Sauer argued that Leeds' claim, that Trump groped her on an airplane, occurred before any federal law barred that.
Carroll's attorney Roberta Kaplan said Sauer was incorrect.
"The answer to that is that it was a crime in 1979," citing a federal statute in effect at the time.
www.cbsnews.com
Sauer argued that Leeds' claim, that Trump groped her on an airplane, occurred before any federal law barred that.
Carroll's attorney Roberta Kaplan said Sauer was incorrect.
"The answer to that is that it was a crime in 1979," citing a federal statute in effect at the time.
Trump attends arguments in appeal of $5 million judgment in E. Jean Carroll case
Attorneys for former President Donald Trump argued that a $5 million judgment finding him liable for sexually abusing and defaming E. Jean Carroll should be thrown out.
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OMG, as if groping someone on an airplane is okay if it's not specifically against the law. That defense is vile.Sauer also said two other women should not have been allowed on the stand. Carroll's attorneys called Jessica Leeds and Natasha Stoynoff, who testified about alleged abuse by Trump that bore similarities to Carroll's accusations.
Sauer argued that Leeds' claim, that Trump groped her on an airplane, occurred before any federal law barred that.
Carroll's attorney Roberta Kaplan said Sauer was incorrect.
"The answer to that is that it was a crime in 1979," citing a federal statute in effect at the time.
Trump attends arguments in appeal of $5 million judgment in E. Jean Carroll case
Attorneys for former President Donald Trump argued that a $5 million judgment finding him liable for sexually abusing and defaming E. Jean Carroll should be thrown out.
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"Former President Donald Trump was in a Manhattan federal court Friday as his lawyers sought to overturn a $5 million jury verdict finding him liable of sexually abusing writer E. Jean Carroll.
The 2024 Republican nominee’s motorcade was spotted rolling up outside the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Lower Manhattan as the hearing got underway."
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The 2024 Republican nominee’s motorcade was spotted rolling up outside the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Lower Manhattan as the hearing got underway."
Trump appears at Manhattan federal court as lawyers seek to overturn $5M judgment in E. Jean Carroll case
Former President Donald Trump was in a Manhattan federal court Friday as his lawyers sought to overturn a $5 million jury verdict finding him liable of sexually abusing writer E. Jean Carroll.
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Trump is giving some statement or press conference right now (Friday, Sept 6) about E Jean Carroll and it's bonkers.
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Trump is attacking E Jean Carroll and suggesting she's lying in accusing Trump of sexually assaulting her
Trump admits he met E Jean Carroll but says "I don't think that counts."
"I never touched her. I would've had no interest in meeting her in any way, shape, or form," he adds.
He goes on to point out that Carroll's ex-husband is "African American
Trump admits he met E Jean Carroll but says "I don't think that counts."
"I never touched her. I would've had no interest in meeting her in any way, shape, or form," he adds.
He goes on to point out that Carroll's ex-husband is "African American
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During an Oct. 19 deposition at his Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach, Florida, which was made public Wednesday, Trump was shown a photo from an NBC event around 1987.
The image shows him from behind, facing Carroll and her then-husband, television journalist John Johnson, with Trump’s then-wife, the late Ivana Trump standing to his right.
“It’s Marla,” said Trump about the photo.
Carroll’s lawyer, Roberta Kaplan, said, “You’re saying Marla is in this photo?”
Trump replied: “That’s Marla, yeah. That’s my wife.”
URL unfurl="true"]https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/19/trump-believed-rape-accuser-e-jean-carroll-was-wife-in-photo.html[/URL]
The image shows him from behind, facing Carroll and her then-husband, television journalist John Johnson, with Trump’s then-wife, the late Ivana Trump standing to his right.
“It’s Marla,” said Trump about the photo.
Carroll’s lawyer, Roberta Kaplan, said, “You’re saying Marla is in this photo?”
Trump replied: “That’s Marla, yeah. That’s my wife.”
URL unfurl="true"]https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/19/trump-believed-rape-accuser-e-jean-carroll-was-wife-in-photo.html[/URL]
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Trump said today that photo doesn't count.
I'm listening to him now. Seriously, it's bonkers.
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E Jean Carroll lawyer Roberta Kaplan on the possibility of filing new defamation claims: “I’ve said before and I’ll say it again: all options are on the table.”
12:19 PM · Sep 6, 2024
E Jean Carroll lawyer Roberta Kaplan on the possibility of filing new defamation claims: “I’ve said before and I’ll say it again: all options are on the table.”
12:19 PM · Sep 6, 2024
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And, it wasn't actually a press conference but rambling at a podium. No questions were taken.
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Totally agree!
So - anything else on the hearing yesterday? More court dates? TIA!
And this is what I have for this hearing:
9/6/24 Update: Trump was in a Manhattan federal court Friday as his lawyers sought to overturn a $5 million jury verdict finding him liable of sexually abusing writer E. Jean Carroll. Mr Trump is here today,” Carroll’s lawyer, Roberta Kaplan, told the court during Friday’s hearing. “He was given every opportunity to take the stand & rebut all this evidence. He did not put on a single witness.” Trump’s lawyers have argued the jury’s verdict should be tossed because evidence was allowed at trial that should have been excluded, while other evidence was excluded that should have been permitted. They argued, too, that Trump couldn’t get a fair trial in the Big Apple. See post #443, page 23 for Court Oral Arguments on Utube.
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Felon Donald Trump was also again lying about Carroll's interview with Anderson Cooper, and Cooper sets the record straight here.
Cooper also mentioned there how Trump had recently referred to him using a female name, and, yes, Trump called him Alison in this Truth Social post. What a despicable, irredeemable child. imo!
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Trump's victory "does nothing to change either the fact, as determined by two separate juries, that he sexually assaulted and defamed Ms. Carroll, or the applicable legal principles under which he was held liable for that conduct," says E. Jean Carroll's lawyer Roberta Kaplan.
The $5M he was ordered to pay Carroll for sexually abusing and defaming her is secured in a court-controlled account. The second judgment for $83.3M that a jury awarded her this year for defamatory comments he made as POTUS is fully bonded.
Trump has appealed the outcomes of both lawsuits to the 2nd Circuit.
The $5M he was ordered to pay Carroll for sexually abusing and defaming her is secured in a court-controlled account. The second judgment for $83.3M that a jury awarded her this year for defamatory comments he made as POTUS is fully bonded.
Trump has appealed the outcomes of both lawsuits to the 2nd Circuit.
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Not for state crimes, I think. Only federal.
IMO.
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