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Do you think he is capable of controlling himself?
NY - $250m fraud against Former President Donald Trump, Trump Org., Eric, Donald Jr., Sept 2022, Trial 2 Oct 2023
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LOL is that a real question?
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I would love to see him thrown in the slammer!
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Fact check: Trump falsely claims it was agreed that Mar-a-Lago is worth more than what the state said
From CNN’s Daniel Dale
Before former President Donald Trump appeared in court Tuesday for the second day of his civil fraud trial in New York, he claimed on social media that it has now “been agreed in Court that Mar-a-Lago is WORTH 50 to 100 times the Value” New York Attorney General Letitia James had ascribed to it, $18 million.
Trump was claiming, therefore, that the court had agreed the Florida property is worth $900 million to $1.8 billion.
Facts First: Trump’s claim is false. There has been no such agreement in court. Judge Arthur Engoron and a lawyer for James’ office did not endorse a Trump lawyer’s Monday claim in court that Mar-a-Lago could be sold for more than $1 billion.
Live updates: Trump civil fraud trial continues in New York
From CNN’s Daniel Dale
Before former President Donald Trump appeared in court Tuesday for the second day of his civil fraud trial in New York, he claimed on social media that it has now “been agreed in Court that Mar-a-Lago is WORTH 50 to 100 times the Value” New York Attorney General Letitia James had ascribed to it, $18 million.
Trump was claiming, therefore, that the court had agreed the Florida property is worth $900 million to $1.8 billion.
Facts First: Trump’s claim is false. There has been no such agreement in court. Judge Arthur Engoron and a lawyer for James’ office did not endorse a Trump lawyer’s Monday claim in court that Mar-a-Lago could be sold for more than $1 billion.
Live updates: Trump civil fraud trial continues in New York
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The thing is, most people don't give a rip how much he is worth. Extreme wealth really doesn't matter to most people! What does matter is integrity, dignity, kindness, etc. We all know business can be ruthless, but what impresses people is hard work, ingenuity, and honesty.I had to laugh last night when Rachel Maddow was doing her usual chit-chat with Lawrence O’Donnell. She kept saying that Trump was concerned about how the size of his…long pause so we could fill in the blank with something naughty, and finally saying…wealth is viewed.
His values are so messed up. imo.
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FINALLY!
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He's protecting his staff. Absolutely right thing to do. jmo
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Judge issues gag order and rebukes Trump after social media post attacking his clerk | CNN Politics
Judge Arthur Engoron rebuked Donald Trump after the former president attacked his clerk in a social media post on Tuesday and forbade the parties from making any future comments about his staff.
“This morning one of the defendants posted on (a) social media account a disparaging untrue and personally identifying post about a member of my staff. Although I have since ordered the post deleted and apparently it was, it was also emailed out to millions of other recipients,” the judge said in court.
“Personal attacks of any member of my court staff are unacceptable, inappropriate and I will not tolerate them,” the judge said.
Trump looked straight ahead at the judge as he issued the order.
The judge then said all parties must not speak publicly about any members of the court staff.
“Consider this statement an order forbidding all parties from posting, emailing or speaking publicly about any members of my staff,” Engoron said. “Failure to abide by this … will result in serious sanctions.”
Monday, Trump also went after the clerk in his comments outside the courtroom, though he didn’t mention her by name.
“And this rogue judge, a Trump hater. The only one that hates Trump more is his associate up there,” Trump said. “The person that works with him. She’s screaming into his ear almost every time we ask a question. A disgrace. It’s a disgrace.”
The post, which Trump included as an image in his own Truth Social post, did not allege that the clerk was Schumer’s girlfriend, merely that the two were “palling around.” Trump added the baseless “girlfriend” claim.
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Que the cries from the far-right about first amendment.
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I don't remember that one, lol, but maybe I get that story mixed up with the one about turning the other cheek. Or the one about the plank in your eye. Or the one about how your yes should mean yes and your no should mean no (and your financial statements should be true).
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Trump fraud trial missing jury because his lawyers elected to
Donald Trump’s $250 million civil fraud trial in Manhattan is taking place without a jury.
The former president expressed his dissatisfaction with this arrangement, stating, “I think it’s very unfair,” during a makeshift press conference outside the courtroom.
The reason behind the absence of a jury, as explained by Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron, is that “nobody asked for” a jury trial.
Donald Trump’s $250 million civil fraud trial in Manhattan is taking place without a jury.
The former president expressed his dissatisfaction with this arrangement, stating, “I think it’s very unfair,” during a makeshift press conference outside the courtroom.
The reason behind the absence of a jury, as explained by Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron, is that “nobody asked for” a jury trial.
Look for Trump to push for an appeal when the verdict is announced, one of the reasons being he wanted a jury trial and was manipulated out of it by the judge
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During cross examination this afternoon, Trump lawyer Jesus Suarez tried to pin the blame for inflated financial statements on Trump's former accountant, Donald Bender.
Suarez noted in his questioning that Bender was the only CPA — certified public accountant — compiling the documents, and that others involved like former Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg didn't have that level of expertise.
Bender, who said he made $1 million to $2 million a year, said in response to questioning that he was the one responsible for making sure everything was submitted correctly. But he countered that the company should have provided him with proper financial data, including appraisals.
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The judge adjourned the trial for the day at 4:30 p.m., but he asked the lawyers and AG Letitia James to stay behind.
Trump was still in the courtroom as well, but reporters and spectators were cleared out. The judge did not give an explanation for the private discussions.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/live-blog/trump-fraud-trial-live-updates-rcna118408
Suarez noted in his questioning that Bender was the only CPA — certified public accountant — compiling the documents, and that others involved like former Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg didn't have that level of expertise.
Bender, who said he made $1 million to $2 million a year, said in response to questioning that he was the one responsible for making sure everything was submitted correctly. But he countered that the company should have provided him with proper financial data, including appraisals.
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The judge adjourned the trial for the day at 4:30 p.m., but he asked the lawyers and AG Letitia James to stay behind.
Trump was still in the courtroom as well, but reporters and spectators were cleared out. The judge did not give an explanation for the private discussions.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/live-blog/trump-fraud-trial-live-updates-rcna118408
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It’s already been proven in summary judgment that he is guilty. Deciding now is how much he has to pay and if he loses his New York properties/businesses.
Correct me if I am wrong.
What to know about Trump’s fraud trial | CNN Politics
Former President Donald Trump showed up at a Manhattan courtroom for the opening day of the New York civil case against him and his namesake company attacking the judge in the case and the New York attorney general at every possible moment.
Last week, Engoron ruled that Trump and his co-defendants were liable for “persistent and repeated” fraud. Trump and his companies could be forced to pay hefty sums in damages for the profits they’ve allegedly garnered through their fraudulent business practices.
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Trump legal news brief: Trump hit with partial gag order after he attacks judge's clerk
Updated Tue, October 3, 2023 at 4:03 PM EDTTrump legal news brief: Judge Cannon pauses deadlines in documents case, handing Trump a reprieve
Judge Aileen Cannon again hands former President Donald Trump’s legal team a partial victory, and Trump drops lawsuits against Arthur Engoron, the judge in the civil financial fraud case, as well as his former lawyer Michael Cohen, a key witness in multiple cases.
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Trump's pretty lawyer forgot to request a jury. I wish reporters would push that info because it's Trump's team's fault he isn't getting a jury trial. If he wanted a jury trial, he could've had one.
FWIW, I don't think a jury would be any better for Trump. But, if he got a jury, then he would cry he can't get a fair jury in a Dem city like NYC (even though it's his hometown). Either way, he whines and shouts. imo
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Judge is talking to the parties in private again for unknown reason.
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i would guess the judge is laying down the law--making it clear to Trump snd his lawyers
that if Trump violates the gag order he will be sanctioned severely and could be thrown
in jail
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This doesn't reflect well on that fancy school DT Jr went to. Doesn't reflect well on his business acumen either.
Regarding GAAP (Generally Accepted Accounting Practices), Jr's deposition in this fraud case went like this:
"Q: How did you become familiar with that acronym?
A: Probably in Accounting 101 at Wharton.
Q: OK. What do they teach you about generally accepted accounting principles in Wharton?
A: Well, I’m not an accountant, but that they are generally accepted.
The questioner laughed.
The exchange continued:
Q: Anything else?
A: That’s pretty much what I remember from Accounting 101."
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Regarding GAAP (Generally Accepted Accounting Practices), Jr's deposition in this fraud case went like this:
"Q: How did you become familiar with that acronym?
A: Probably in Accounting 101 at Wharton.
Q: OK. What do they teach you about generally accepted accounting principles in Wharton?
A: Well, I’m not an accountant, but that they are generally accepted.
The questioner laughed.
The exchange continued:
Q: Anything else?
A: That’s pretty much what I remember from Accounting 101."
Donald Trump Jr. Laughs At Own Accounting Admission In Newly Released Deposition Video
New York Attorney General Letitia James’ office made the footage public during the first day of former President Donald Trump’s civil fraud trial.
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It's almost 6pm - no word on what is happening?
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