Match! NY - Caledonia, WhtFem 1UFNY, 13-19, Turquoise Necklace, Nov'79 *Tammy Alexander*

[Nameless Helper]

Apparently there are no dentals on Nancy. Does this mean no dental care?

 

[Roselvr]

Ok, So I have been doing some research on this and I did a route from Los Angeles, CA to Boston.

Here is a link: http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=L...dyAdd-w;FT6kjgIdYIZf-w&mra=mi&mrsp=4&sz=9&z=4

It if you look she would pass over the I-90 and be right there in the area. Actually almost anywhere in so. cal or arizona would cause the person to pass through Caledona, Ny. One of the routes would take her through New Mexico which might explain the jewelry and they may have taken US 20 to avoid I-90 and that is how they ended up in Lima.

Second, I found a description of a person she was with at the diner. Here is a sketch:

He was described as a white male, 5'8" - 5'9". Was wearing a flannel shirt. Had wire rim glasses. He also drove a station wagon with wooden sidings.

FBI link

 

[Still_Seek_Answers]

Apparently there are no dentals on Nancy. Does this mean no dental care?

I do not know......there is so little on Nancy.......but the meds she was on, as Nameless_Helper stated would have increased her tooth decay.......

 

[Roselvr]

Apparently there are no dentals on Nancy. Does this mean no dental care?

I wouldn't assume no dental care; just means they do not have them.

 

[annegrete]

There is definitely similarities between Cali and Nancy Lynn, looking at their pictures. I agree that Cali may very well have been older than the estimated 15- 16 years. I am 34, work in a high school, and whenever I'm in the library, the librarian passes by me and says, "I always think you're a student!" So, it is certainly possible Cali was 20-year old Nancy Lynn J.

Here's what sends chills up my spine. The name "Nancy" kept coming to me as I thought about Cali. Then I'm reading the article about Lucas killing Cali- him saying her name was Nancy- and it's a bit eerie for me.

What happened to Cali's clothes? Was she buried in them or are they in storage?

Another thought- Based on the teeth isotopes, Cali was raised in the southwest until she was two years old. Maybe she was removed from her parents' care and bounced around different foster/group homes or orphanages? She eventually ran away from the "system", and she fell through the cracks of an already overloaded system?

 

[wintermute]

The other was worn through the crown.
Her dental history has already ruled out
several possibilities for identification.

What crown Apparently someone needs to call this police officer and get the actual facts. All reports I see says no dental work?

The top surface area of a molar is called the crown, so it could be that the natural surface of her molar was worn through. It may not mean that she had a man-made crown put in by a dentist.

 

[momrids6]

May I please have the link to this article?

As horrible as it is, I think this is the order in which it happened. I am basing this on the fact that the head shot had to have happened while she was looking at him.

The killer then apparently dragged
her, face down, feet first, about 10 feet
into the corn rows, then stood over her
and shot her in the back with a
38 calibre gun.

all the articles were found on fultonhistory.com

 

[momrids6]

FBI link

I bet they can now get DNA off of that coat- and now that I look at it, I really think the coat was not hers.

 

[Nameless Helper]

I wouldn't assume no dental care; just means they do not have them.

I think that we should submit Nancy. I am willing to put something together to send in unless someone else wants to. I fell like this is a group effort. Is there any specific way that we should submit?

Reading up on Nancy there is no mention of her family other than providing DNA. It seem the group she was with was a cult that encouraged you to hand over your assets and she was 18. Her family may have been estrainged. With matching blood types and no dentals, both hitchiked and liked jewelry. Nancy was thought to be headed to FL (tan?) and one of her doctors later lost his licence due to sexual misconduct although the sect was celibate. So maybe she needed to get away but couldn't go back home.

There is an awful lot in common here.

 

[Still_Seek_Answers]

I bet they can now get DNA off of that coat- and now that I look at it, I really think the coat was not hers.

If she came from a warmer climate( the tan) then I would guess the coat came from a thrift shop or a church. Going from tanning weather to temps in the 30's she had to find something fast. Even someone who picked her up may have given it to her before they dropped her off.

 

[Nameless Helper]

I wouldn't assume no dental care; just means they do not have them.

It seems thought that either her family was not helpful or she has no care.

 

[Still_Seek_Answers]

I think that we should submit Nancy. I am willing to put something together to send in unless someone else wants to. I fell like this is a group effort. Is there any specific way that we should submit?

Reading up on Nancy there is no mention of her family other than providing DNA. It seem the group she was with was a cult that encouraged you to hand over your assets and she was 18. Her family may have been estrainged. With matching blood types and no dentals, both hitchiked and liked jewelry. Nancy was thought to be headed to FL (tan?) and one of her doctors later lost his licence due to sexual misconduct although the sect was celibate. So maybe she needed to get away but couldn't go back home.

There is an awful lot in common here.

It did not seem so at the time, but kids during this era often got bounced around. Sent from relative to relative......or into foster care. Hitching to Florida was the IN thing to do back then.....most of them headed in that direction.

The rare blood type alone makes me think Nancy needs checked.

Before I even say this I want to stress I am not being critical!!!!! Recently a person whose remains were listed as male, matched a missing female and were identified. Especially on older missings info gets entered, then updated, moved from site to site.......sometimes accidents happen......dates get changed..... we have all heard of identifications where the vitals were off.....I call this the human factor

 

[momrids6]

Livingston Republican County Seat 12/12/79 ( from fultonhistory.com )

Oct 30: Child abuse reported by resident. Stepdaughter sexually and physically abused. Researched matter presently at attention of Social Services--girl to be placed In foster home.

Oct. 31: 2030-MVA (8:30PM, motor vehicle accident) reported by girl found wandering near Fall Brook. 2 females found intoxicated, taken to Sheriffs Dept. for followup.

THE LIVINGSTON REPUBLICAN June 21,1979


Livingston County Sheriff Richard A. Kane commended his men and credited them with the apprehension of a fugitive from justice from the State of Florida.
Sheriff Kane said the apprehension was the result of a check of a suspicious vehicle at the Lake Glenn Apartments in Livonia by Deputy Sheriff J. David Haskins. A check of the vehicle and a police computer check of a 15 year old unidentified female and a 22 year old male showed that the female was wanted by Florida Authorities as a runaway and the 22 year old male

Steven Wolff Hendrikx was wanted by Florida Authorities on several charges, including armed trespass. According to Sheriff Kane when Deputy Haskins attempted to arrest Hendrikx, he was assaulted by the 15 year old female long enough for Hendrikx to escape. The girl subdued by Haskins and committed to the Juvenile Detention Center in MonroeCounty.

An alarm was then broadcast for other officers in the area and Hendrikx was apprehended a short time later in the Lakeville area by Sheriffs Sgt. Clark Young Jr. and Senior Deputy William Mistretta. Hendrikx was then committed to the Livingston County jail to await extradition by the Florida Authorities. Hendrikx gave the address of 811 Hilcrest Blvd., West Palm Beach. Florida.


ETA: The correct spelling for the fugitive is NAME: Stephen W Hendrikx
BIRTH: May 1957

http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida/Palm-Beach-County-FL/Stephen-Hendrix.6322401/details/

 

[Still_Seek_Answers]

Livingston Republican County Seat 12/12/79 ( from fultonhistory.com )

Oct 30: Child abuse reported by resident. Stepdaughter sexually and physically abused. Researched matter presently at attention of Social Services--girl to be placed In foster home.

Oct. 31: 2030-MVA (8:30PM, motor vehicle accident) reported by girl found wandering near Fall Brook. 2 females found intoxicated, taken to Sheriffs Dept. for followup.

THE LIVINGSTON REPUBLICAN June 21,1979


Livingston County Sheriff Richard A. Kane commended his men and credited them with the apprehension of a fugitive from justice from the State of Florida.
Sheriff Kane said the apprehension was the result of a check of a suspicious vehicle at the Lake Glenn Apartments in Livonia by Deputy Sheriff J. David Haskins. A check of the vehicle and a police computer check of a 15 year old unidentified female and a 22 year old male showed that the female was wanted by Florida Authorities as a runaway and the 22 year old male

Steven Wolff Hendrikx was wanted by Florida Authorities on several charges, including armed trespass. According to Sheriff Kane when Deputy Haskins attempted to arrest Hendrikx, he was assaulted by the 15 year old female long enough for Hendrikx to escape. The girl subdued by Haskins and committed to the Juvenile Detention Center in MonroeCounty.

An alarm was then broadcast for other officers in the area and Hendrikx was apprehended a short time later in the Lakeville area by Sheriffs Sgt. Clark Young Jr. and Senior Deputy William Mistretta. Hendrikx was then committed to the Livingston County jail to await extradition by the Florida Authorities. Hendrikx gave the address of 811 Hilcrest Blvd., West Palm Beach. Florida.

Surely the police checked to make sure this was not the same girl? I would think that would have been the first thing they did check on? Anybody?

 

[momrids6]

Livingston Republican Geneseo County Seat Nov. 16, 1979 LATE BULLETIN

Livingston County Sheriff Richard Kane said the body of the young woman found slain in Caledonia could be a runaway. The body was found in a cornfield owned by Harry Clements, who was driving down Route 20.

 

[Still_Seek_Answers]

Livingston Republican Geneseo County Seat Nov. 16, 1979 LATE BULLETIN

Livingston County Sheriff Richard Kane said the body of the young woman found slain in Caledonia could be a runaway. The body was found in a cornfield owned by Harry Clements, who was driving down Route 20.

My question was more of......did the police check when they first found Cali, to make sure she was not the same runaway from June?

 

[momrids6]

My question was more of......did the police check when they first found Cali, to make sure she was not the same runaway from June?

That article was not to answer your question- it fell randomly. Here are 2 more runaways from the area- one was returned to her mother- but ? if she ran away again. I wonder if they checked that 15 yr old from FL as well as the abused teen put in foster care- who knows if she ran away, was returned to family, etc.

Baldwinsville, NY
June 15 th, 1979
2253 (10:53pm) - missing person
(runaway). E. Genesee St.

WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 26. 1979 Livingston Republican Geneseo County Seat Aug. 27: 1700- (5pm)
Runaway complaint - apprehended on RL 39. returned to her mother.

 

[momrids6]

I did find out that in NY, in 1979, if a girl was under 17, she was considered a child. At 17, was considered an adult.
( a 17 yr old girl was arrested for endangering the welfare of a child for harboring a 14 yr old runaway girl- and it was stated within the article, and boys under 16/over 16)


I wonder if the runaway reports for that county and surrounding counties were checked. If our Cali was 17, and/or no one bothered, there may be no report.

 

[Still_Seek_Answers]

I did find out that in NY, in 1979, if a girl was under 17, she was considered a child. At 17, was considered an adult.
( a 17 yr old girl was arrested for endangering the welfare of a child for harboring a 14 yr old runaway girl- and it was stated within the article, and boys under 16/over 16)


I wonder if the runaway reports for that county and surrounding counties were checked. If our Cali was 17, and/or no one bothered, there may be no report.

That is a very good question. I would like to know about the abused girl they placed in foster care also. Post # 900

I do recall in one of the articles it stated runaways had been checked. I do think we need to find out more specifics on this fact.

Also, did they identify the 14 yr old runaway? And where was she from, etc?

 

[momrids6]

Oct 20, 1979 Limerock Speedway Banquet:

http://fultonhistory.com/Newspaper%2013/Warsaw%20NY%20Western%20New%20Yorker/Warsaw%20NY%20Western%20New%20Yorker%201978-1979/Warsaw%20NY%20Western%20New%20Yorker%201978-1979%20-%201194.pdf#xml=http://fultonhistory.com/dtSearch/dtisapi6.dll?cmd=getpdfhits&u=ffffffffd373471f&DocId=7723847&Index=Z%3a%5cIndex%20O%2dG%2dT%2dS&HitCount=6&hits=9+213+217+218+320+327+&SearchForm=C%3a%5cinetpub%5cwwwroot%5cFulton%5fNew%5fform%2ehtml&.pdf