VERDICT WATCH NY - Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein confidante, arrested on Sex Abuse charges, Jul 2020 #3

[Ontario Mom]

IMO The underage trafficking runs really deep in high places. The media will shut it down to the best of their ability.

Purely speculation of course but I suspect you may be correct, and that the list of names is extensive, and VERY well connected.

 

[Legally Bland]

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New— Ghislaine Maxwell can call a "false memory" expert who testified for Harvey Weinstein, Robert Durst, O.J. Simpson and others in her upcoming trial. The judge will bar some of her testimony. Details are currently sealed.

 

[tayaway]

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New— Ghislaine Maxwell can call a "false memory" expert who testified for Harvey Weinstein, Robert Durst, O.J. Simpson and others in her upcoming trial. The judge will bar some of her testimony. Details are currently sealed.

MOO *in the voice of the late Norm MacDonald via SNL Weekend Update* "O.J. - acquittal doesn't count - guilty! Harvey - guilty! Some other guy - guilty! Ghislaine Maxwell - you fill in the blank!"

MOO: Hiring 'experts' and lawyers who take on these type of characters doesn't look good for the defendant and may negatively influence the jury.

 

[Legally Bland]

Final pretrial conference is tomorrow at 9.30am.

Order – #483 in United States v. Maxwell (S.D.N.Y., 1:20-cr-00330) – CourtListener.com

Lots of other filings in the last couple of days, but nothing that looks too interesting from a quick browse.

Docket for United States v. Maxwell, 1:20-cr-00330 - CourtListener.com

 

[MrsWatson]

If anyone cares to read, here is a link to Maxwell's deposition from 2016.

Jeffrey Epstein Update: Read The Deposition That Ghislaine Maxwell Fought To Hide

 

[Chelly]

Opening statements in the trial begin on Nov. 29.

U.S. judge lets Ghislaine Maxwell call 'false memories' expert to testify at trial

 

[MrsWatson]

Is the false memories expert going to testify about the false memories Ghislaine has? Like she has a false memory that all the victims were actually not minors?

 

[Legally Bland]

Is the false memories expert going to testify about the false memories Ghislaine has? Like she has a false memory that all the victims were actually not minors?

Here's a summary of Dr Dietz's proposed testimony, more legal argument in the full doc.











Motion to Preclude – #424 in United States v. Maxwell (S.D.N.Y., 1:20-cr-00330) – CourtListener.com

ETA: I'm not sure if that was just a playful comment.

 

[JudgeJudi]

All of these victims had troubled childhood and youth.
None of them is "crystal clear".

I bet GM team is busy searching and x-raying their past.

Well, 1 is neutralised, so 3 left to go - I dont think it is right.

These sort of victims invariably have a troubled background and are easy prey for people like Epstein and his associates. It's more than disturbing, it's horrific.

 

[JudgeJudi]

It's not a stretch to think that if the victim was sex trafficked and repeatedly sexually assaulted, that just may have something to do with turning to drugs, imo.

It's such blatant victim blaming and what aboutitsm by the defense. The trial is about Ghislaine Maxwell facilitating sex trafficking. Not what the victims were doing five years later.

MOO

Absolutely to both paras.

 

[JudgeJudi]

MOO *in the voice of the late Norm MacDonald via SNL Weekend Update* "O.J. - acquittal doesn't count - guilty! Harvey - guilty! Some other guy - guilty! Ghislaine Maxwell - you fill in the blank!"

MOO: Hiring 'experts' and lawyers who take on these type of characters doesn't look good for the defendant and may negatively influence the jury.

The question is ... will the jury be aware of this. Probably not.

 

[JudgeJudi]

I think it's going to get ugly.

It's nearly 3am here so I'll have to read some of the above posts next time.

 

[acehard]

They just need one clear victim and they can lock her up with conspiracy charges for the rest of her life. Just like Keith Raniere (nxivm) IMO

 

[Chelly]

Ghislaine Maxwell's family appeals to United Nations for help getting her out on bail

 

[joe jones]

Ghislaine Maxwell's family appeals to United Nations for help getting her out on bail

her family do like to reach high, her dad got what amounted to an almost state funeral in Israel, so why not ask the UN to help her out,

 

[Chelly]

her family do like to reach high, her dad got what amounted to an almost state funeral in Israel, so why not ask the UN to help her out,

Privilege/ power can speak loudly. Can also buy silence for what it does not want heard.

 

[MrsWatson]

her family do like to reach high, her dad got what amounted to an almost state funeral in Israel, so why not ask the UN to help her out,

If you're going to go for it, may as well aim high, right?

I don't think there is any chance she'll get bail. She's the very definition of high flight risk, and she was in hiding when she was arrested, and had been for how long? Even with all the restrictions and security, bottom line, she's a flight risk and will remain one. If she gets out, she'll be gone, end of.

And as far as the jail conditions, boo hoo. I can think of ten countries off the top of my head that have jails that are truly inhumane. It's jail, not a day spa for bad girls.

I think her defense is getting very nervous. It's clear from reading her depositions from JE's case, she is a master of deflection, deception, selective memory and hours upon hours of coaching from her legal team. The prosecution spent a long time building this case, I am sure it's very strong.

all MOO obv

ETA: If you haven't read those depositions, I posted them earlier in the thread. They are TEE DEE US, but worth reading a few pages to get the feel. There are literally stretches of ten, 12 pages, of nothing but back and forth and nitpicking of every word in every sentence. She twists every question and dances on the head on a pin. She could teach a master class.

 

[Chelly]

I have't seen any reporting on jury selection this week. Was the process completed last week or is it continuing? I know opening statements are scheduled for Monday, Nov. 29.

 

[Legally Bland]

Bit about today's pre-trial conference.
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Maxwell was in the courtroom Tuesday, exchanging greetings with her team of lawyers and occasionally sipping from a disposable coffee cup as her legal team hashed out trial logistics with the group of four prosecutors.

Among the issues raised was that Maxwell’s attorneys have subpoenaed a lawyer who represents a victim in the case, identified in the indictment against Maxwell as “Minor Victim-4.”

Nathan ordered Maxwell’s attorneys to submit briefs about the potential witness — and said she would not allow the testimony until she has reviewed the briefing.

According to the indictment, Maxwell met the victim when she was 14 years old at Jeffrey Epstein’s Palm Beach mansion sometime around 2001.

She then “groomed” the teen by discussing sexual topics in front of her and being present when the teen was naked in the massage room of Epstein’s house, prosecutors charged.

Maxwell also sent the teen lingerie and helped arrange appointments for her to give Epstein sexualized massages, according to the indictment.

Her attorneys did not discuss why they want the victim’s lawyer to testify at the trial.


No plea deal for Ghislaine Maxwell ahead of trial next week

 

[JudgeJudi]

Ghislaine Maxwell's family appeals to United Nations for help getting her out on bail

Good luck with that. Maybe she'll contact the Pope next, and while she's at it, ask for his blessing. Ugh.