NY NY - Irondequoit, WhtFem 14-23, 122UFNY, skeletal in shallow grave, front teeth overlap, Jul'88

[Jennifer17]

So many women missing and presumed dead and so many unidentified women's remains found. Man has no predator, but it seems females do.

 

[carbuff]

Carbuff have you received any feedback on this potential JD match


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Informally, I'm hearing that there aren't enough identifiers to rule Denise in or out as a match to this UID, but they're still looking into it. But that is not official.

 

[theshadow45]

I don't think Sandra Hopler has been mentioned previously Sandra Lee Hopler – The Charley Project. She vanished from La Plume, Pennsylvania (approximately 212 miles from Irondequoit) en route to New York City on 29 September 1973. At the time she was 18 years old, 5'4" tall, and weighed approximately 125 pounds.

 

[theshadow45]

Submitted Sandra Hopler via NamUs.

 

[theshadow45]

She went missing quite a distance away, but Teri Rhodes Teresa Lynn Rhodes – The Charley Project So did Patricia Seelbaugh Patricia Jane Seelbaugh – The Charley Project.

 

[theshadow45]

Ingrid Bauer 1958 missing from Canada http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/908dfon.html and Mary Lou Bostwick 1956 New York have been added to the rule out list.

 

[folieadeuxnola]

Here is the Comparison/Exclusion List for Irondequoit JD, thought I would post since Carbuff had mentioned her in the Denise Beaudin thread.

MP11936 - Barbara Aleksivich
10/03/1973
Steuben, NY

MP2386 – Lynn Bandringa
05/29/1967
San Bernardino CA

Ingrid Bauer

MP7081 – Bonita Bickwit
07/27/1973
Sullivan NY

MP5860 – Marie Blee
11/21/1979
Routt CO

MP20107 – Mary Bostwick
07/18/1972
Tioga NY

MP19076 – Sandra Breed
05/22/1964
Madison NY

MP7828 – Niki Britten
07/16/1969
Linn OR

MP10968 – Linda Britton
06/11/1963
Guernsey OH

MP3070 – Judith Brown
04/06/1977
Queens NY

MP11582 – Barbara Bruno
08/01/1980
Monroe NY

MP7592 – Rosemary Buck
08/11/1973
Onondaga NY

MP4532 – Cynthia Constantine
07/11/1969
Suffolk NY

MP5665 – Charlotte Heimann
10/30/1981
Monroe NY

MP5669 – Lynn Luray
08/17/1964
Los Angeles CA

MP7574 – Sylvia Lwowski
09/06/1975
Richmond NY

MP4646 – Robyn Pettinato
07/05/1975
Flathead MT

MP26000 – Mary Robinson
06/10/1976
Monroe NY

MP5533 – Denise Sheehy
07/07/1970
Queens NY

MP3259 – Sheryl Tillinghast
09/24/1973
Dutchess NY

MP4608 – Rebecca Triska
09/19/1958
Beaver PA

MP2876 – Mary Wesolowski
08/18/1971
Warren NY

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

*bump*

Irondequoit Jane Doe was discovered 30 years ago today.

 

[Mysteries1974]

Was Audrey nerenberg ever compared? I don’t see her on the rule out list. If she has never been submitted I will gladly do it.

 

[carbuff]

Audrey is the missing person proposed in this thread's very first page.

As I recall, they weren't able to rule her in or out because at the time they didn't have matching identifiers. Don't know whether that's changed.

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

They both have dentals in, and they are both characteristic, if I'm not mistaken. Audrey had a gap between her front teeth and IJD had significant gold foil restorations.

 

[carbuff]

They both have dentals in, and they are both characteristic, if I'm not mistaken. Audrey had a gap between her front teeth and IJD had significant gold foil restorations.

Thanks. I'm probably remembering a different missing person.

 

[Mysteries1974]

Ok they look very much alike

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

Just something that just hit me:
When was IJD tested for DNA? Her sample came back as insufficient, but if the DNA was tried extracted in -say- the year 2000, shouldn't there be a "round 2", trying to extract a sample that is sufficient and perhaps workable for DNA Doe Project? I mean, DNA techology has really come a long way in just a few years.

 

[Jmoose]

Just something that just hit me:
When was IJD tested for DNA? Her sample came back as insufficient, but if the DNA was tried extracted in -say- the year 2000, shouldn't there be a "round 2", trying to extract a sample that is sufficient and perhaps workable for DNA Doe Project? I mean, DNA techology has really come a long way in just a few years.

You’d think there’d be round 2, as long as there was enough dna extracted to test-I wonder if there was? And I wonder if they’d bother unless there was a strong suspicion that they had a potential match. I think we all assume that this stuff gets done automatically, but I’m frequently surprised how often these old cases are neglected. It saddens me, especially since this woman was murdered-I mean, she didn’t disappear of her own free will

 

[Mysteries1974]

Audrey nerenberg and Cornelia Enright have never been compared. They both fit the timeline of the UIDs death.

 

[Mysteries1974]

Cornelia can’t be ruled in or out because she only has DNA on file and the UIDs DNA is insufficient for testing.

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

Audrey nerenberg and Cornelia Enright have never been compared. They both fit the timeline of the UIDs death.

But don't you think it would've been mentioned somewhere if Audrey had gold foil restorations as a part of her identifiers, so they could've compared her dentals to IJD's significant dental work?

 

[Mysteries1974]

Yes you are right. We don’t know much about Cornelia’s dental work so it’s possible she could match

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

Cornelia can’t be ruled in or out because she only has DNA on file and the UIDs DNA is insufficient for testing.

I know and it sucks!
There are so many girls that easily fits the timeline, location and various identifiers of our Jane Doe, and I truly believe she would've been identified in a jiffy if sufficient DNA could be extracted from her. It's really frustrating!