Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - # 7

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"For an eight-month period that began in late 2011 and stretched into mid-2012, Keith Wilcox, a disabled retiree from New Berlin, said he welcomed Jennifer Ramsaran into his home, where she worked as a caretaker for him as he recovered from a stroke."

So, she left her employment mid-2012, summer time.

Wasn't that around the time of the affair(s)?
And the time that she "changed" according to GR?
If she did "change" and that's a huge IF, maybe she did so because there was nothing left in it for her. Maybe she thought it was over.

Mr. Wilcox did disclose that he didn't think Jen knew about the affair (this isn't in MSM but I know for a fact he said this). Yet, she cited personal problems at home as one of the reasons for quitting. She probably didn't tell him, or perhaps had a hunch and found out during the months after her employment ended.

More on the changes: Personally, I would be seriously hard pressed to cook a meal for my cheating spouse, do his laundry, gel up his hair, stroke his massive ego, take pics of his new muscles, or take care of him in any way whatsoever. If I hadn't booted him out by then, the least I would do is suggest ES take on these tasks for him.

And I don't think for a second she ever stopped caring for her children.

BBM

Nor do I.

Consider the source. :mad:

GR is, IMO, a stranger to the truth. I'll leave it at that.
 
I'm sure there are very good reasons for the family being quiet.
Their silence mustn't be interpreted as not wanting justice.
They do want justice.
And IMO, they'll get it.

I'm sorry, I should have been more clear. I was trying not to be too obvious, as I've overstepped a few TOS boundaries lately. I was referring to GR :blushing:
 
Yep. I'm still reeling from the fact that Jen taught Sunday School for years and was a Girl Scout Leader and that nobody thought those facts worth mentioning while they were supposedly desperately trying to get the public to help find a living Jennifer.

Edit: Jillian just to be clear, this frustration is not pointed in your direction at all.

Understood, fringles. I didn't even know she was a Sunday school teacher, taught knitting classes, won awards for her paintings, etc. until recently.

Wonderful stuff left out on purpose because it doesn't fit GR's own painting, IMO.

What a beautiful woman, inside and out.
 
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From the Finding Jennifer Blog:

She is an excellent cook but stopped cooking the two months prior to her disappearance.


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That was the strangest bit of information to give to help find a missing person I've ever seen. More like a 'poor me' complaint. :twocents:
 
Thinking of our Jennifer today and praying for her parents and children especially.

Praying harder for an arrest for the woman we have come to love.

Thanking Joe Mahoney, all of you here, & those who never gave up on Jennifer or portraying who she was.

Shame on those who didn't do more, who tarnished her name, & caused her harm.

Justice for Jennifer!!!
 
That was the strangest bit of information to give to help find a missing person I've ever seen. More like a 'poor me' complaint. :twocents:


your post reminded me of all the times i and dozens of others on here asked CC/LD what JR was wearing on her feet. her information came directly from GR, remember?

the question was never answered.

now we know why.
 
That was the strangest bit of information to give to help find a missing person I've ever seen. More like a 'poor me' complaint. :twocents:

Along with she would never ever eat a sandwich :waitasec: . So pay no attention if you see someone that looks like her if they are eating a sandwich.
 
Understood, fringles. I didn't even though she was a Sunday school teacher, taught knitting classes, won awards for her paintings, etc. until recently.

Wonderful stuff left out on purpose because it doesn't fit GR's own painting, IMO.

What a beautiful woman, inside and out.

Exactly! She was an awesome cook based on some of the now hidden FB pictures too!

A mom that all including myself, would have loved to have!

Shame on GR for putting her in his shadow. A paltry jogger (and that's giving him credit, more so a shuffling fast walker - did you all see what he looked like before he started to get off the couch?)

Justice for Jennifer!!!!
 
Understood, fringles. I didn't even though she was a Sunday school teacher, taught knitting classes, won awards for her paintings, etc. until recently.

Wonderful stuff left out on purpose because it doesn't fit GR's own painting, IMO.

What a beautiful woman, inside and out.

More I know about Jennifer more angry I get that someone harmed her and dumped on the roadside, like a trash. :furious::furious::furious:

But I see that the fog created by some people is starting to disperse and we are able to see Jenny as the wonderful person she really was. The truth is coming out and I hope it's just a beginning.
 
BBM

Clue -- think it's safe to say that the organizations MIGHT have shone a light on all the good Jen did, but they were only fed the negatives which planted the wrong kind of seeds. Hence, the weeds grew... and not the flowers that Jen really was...

:rose:

Synonyms for Daily Star News Reporter; Joe Mahoney: weed whacker, weed eater, weed n feed...seeds b gone..
 
Jen's former employer is in his mid-late 50's (ish).
She did confide in him, yes.
Change: probably, yes. She gained some independence back and loved the job, as it got her out of the house more.
Ditto with her girl scout troop leader gig. I don't know how long she did it, but she stopped as it took her away from home too frequently. I don't believe this was her choice.

It must have been hard for her -- with GR working at home -- if he was as controlling and insulting and demanding as it sounds -- she'd never get a break, never have that time to herself.
 
Exactly! She was an awesome cook based on some of the now hidden FB pictures too!

A mom that all including myself, would have loved to have!

Shame on GR for putting her in his shadow. A paltry jogger (and that's giving him credit, more so a shuffling fast walker - did you all see what he looked like before he started to get off the couch?)

Justice for Jennifer!!!!

BBM
I did!
 
Not only was the list bizarre the explanations given for each one when we questioned them were even more bizarre.
 
That was the strangest bit of information to give to help find a missing person I've ever seen. More like a 'poor me' complaint. :twocents:

Of course it's a 'poor me' -- the spotlight was not on someone.

My 'maybe list':

Maybe Jen did stop making her gourmet meals for the family during the last 2 months? She was 'persuaded' to leave the job she loved taking care of her patient, at some point was 'persuaded' to stop any of her extra-cirricular activities, etc.

Maybe she had had enough and was 'rebelling' a little bit and trying to make the 'old school' philosophy go away and have all hands help in the home -- not just hers.

Maybe she was becoming a bit defiant -- to anyone else it would be having a backbone/stand up for self -- but to GR it was someone not submitting to him and his whims...

Maybe she was going to go to the mall that day (or to somewhere -- but GR's story is the mall) -- to get out of the house and out from under his thumb. Once again -- in his eyes -- being defiant -- and then something escalated.
 
Thinking of Jennifer, her children and her family today.

<3
 
Understood, fringles. I didn't even know she was a Sunday school teacher, taught knitting classes, won awards for her paintings, etc. until recently.

Wonderful stuff left out on purpose because it doesn't fit GR's own painting, IMO.

What a beautiful woman, inside and out.

Agree Jillian, but 'The light is beginning to shine on the dark art painted by GR and echoed by CC of Jennifer Ramsaran; innocent victim of foul play in death, as well as in life, imo'...
 
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