Found Deceased NY - Jennifer Ramsaran, 36, Chenango County, 11 Dec 2012 - # 7

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newsjunkie said:
It is very rare I drive my husband's vehicle and same with him in mine. It would be very coincidental that I would go missing and my husband's prints would be found on top (left most recently).

Not that I'm worried about going missing or my husband, in general. . .
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My husband and I alternate vehicles each week as he drives 30-40 minutes to work and I stay at home. This extends the life of his lease. Anyhow.

Domestic violence does usually follow a pattern as listed. However, when the abuser has other identifiable emotional/ social/ personality issues the stages can vary. There may never be a "honeymoon" period, just consistent abuse and humiliation. This may be emotional, social and sexual abuse.

Today is a sunny day in Upstate NY, if there is a good day to have a memorial and committal, it would be today: Clear, sunny, cool but bright. For those who say goodbye today, find some peace in the freedom from harm Jennifer now enjoys in the arms of a loving father.
 
epiphany said:
Wonder whether Jennifer typically showers in the evening or in the morning.
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Or does she takes baths instead of showers or a mix? If you have fibro etc....sitting a bath in morning helps with the muscle soreness/pain
 
Tues, 3/5 @ 2:57pm -- if this means anything -- 2 helicopters just flew out front of my house -- look similar to the ones that flew out one day and back the next during the time WS'ers local thought that they might have been doing aerial searches. From the looks of it -- they look to be on the same path as that day a few weeks ago.... Keeps eyes/ears open... FYI -- I am about 1hr away from Norwich area if driving... to give you an idea...
 
Sharoneonta said:
So let me get this straight: female running partner is not the tryster but she's ok with the fact that her best friends husband had cheated on Jenn. Jennifer goes from missing to dead shortly after said tryst, female running partner has had little to nothing to say about her best friends disappearance, yet is by the side of her running partner nearly constantly, all the while he is under scrutiny and she knows that he's cheated. Man, she IS loyal.

I'm having a hard time buying it.
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This is such a good point I never thought of! Imagine! Your best friend disappears and you find out her husband was cheating on her. IMO she'd be better to fess up to being the tryster, it's a preferable reflection on her character than this alternative.
 
momrids6 said:
That is not "old school" that is king and servant.



Most convictions revolve around circumstantial evidence



She may be the only one who understands how he ticks, but I bet even she is not consciously aware of the depth.
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I totally agree!! Everyone we know thinks my husband and I are "very old school". He works and I run the household. I wouldn't ask him to do things like take out the trash after a long day of work but that's because he's tired and I know I'm perfectly capable of doing it myself. But on his days off I could ask him to do anything and he would in a heartbeat. Is there doting? Ohhh heck yeah!! But it's mutual. There is A LOT of respect between us, he thinks he could never do what I do everyday, and I feel the same way.
The way JR and GR's relationship is described is totally different and completely unhealthy.
 
Hope today has been a great memory of what a great person Jenn was and how she helped so many people in her life, I hope her children get to know this as they grow up. Nice to see press releases on how much she helped people so much despite her own problems in life, good on you girl, rest in peace.
 
epiphany said:
Putting myself in her shoes, you cut him off by now. Even if you were not involved. Especially if you were not involved with him. You have a husband and children of your own. You support your best friend. As much as one may love them, men are a dime a dozen.
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'Even with inflation'?
 
Jilllian said:
http://thedailystar.com/localnews/x1874096392/Ex-client-Ramsaran-was-devoted-mom

"Ganesh Ramsaran, in an interview two weeks ago, said he has had no contact with Keith Wilcox."

Knowing that his wife was close to Mr. Wilcox, GR never contacted him either in person or via phone to say "Hi. How's it going? Just wondering ~ do you have any idea where my wife could be? I think she ran off. Can ya' help me out here?"

:what:
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Too smart for his own good. To ask a question he already knew the answer to.
 
Jilllian said:
Not sure when she quit the job.
Yes, unlikely she played online games while working. She would oftentimes drive her employer to appointments far out of town, and was attentive at work. This gentlemen got to know Jen's children well and thought of them as his own, at least one of them, if not all three.
Personally, I don't buy any video game addiction.
Can't say how GR felt about her working outside of the home.
Also can't say specifically what the problems at home were.
It was her employer's belief that Jennifer did not know about the affair, at least that he knew of, at the time she stopped working for him.
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Knowing Mr. Wilcox I will say he is a straight shooter.
 
epiphany said:
So much seems circumstantial evidence, IMO...
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Imo, by now this case rests in the hands of the prosecutor. We aren't privy to what the investigators and ME have uncovered forensically, etc. But if there was domestic abuse and it can be verified, combined with COD, the obvious seeds of deflection and character assassination by GR, tryst, ruse, etc., imo..

GR would be found guilty on circumstantial evidence alone, even in this day of CSI jurors..

The jury would be as infuriated as we are. imo...and personally, I am pissed that we haven't witnessed a perp walk by now....
 
There's so many people speaking out about this case now, and mainly against the theory portrayed by CC/GR about her character. LE still waiting for an absolute fatal interview? Anyone know when the COD may be known?
 
Pob said:
There's so many people speaking out about this case now, and mainly against the theory portrayed by CC/GR about her character. LE still waiting for an absolute fatal interview? Anyone know when the COD may be known?
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I think we all need to wait and hold our peace for a bit. It's great to sleuth but any inside info at this point could be detrimental.
 
Was the site where Jennifer was found considered a "crime scene"?

Has LE formally announced this vs. a dump spot?

Sorry if this is common knowledge already
 
CuriousGuy said:
Was the site where Jennifer was found considered a "crime scene"?

Has LE formally announced this vs. a dump spot?

Sorry if this is common knowledge already
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I haven't seen any announcement from LE on whether it is a crime scene or dump spot
 
Bob's Chicken said:
Tues, 3/5 @ 2:57pm -- if this means anything -- 2 helicopters just flew out front of my house -- look similar to the ones that flew out one day and back the next during the time WS'ers local thought that they might have been doing aerial searches. From the looks of it -- they look to be on the same path as that day a few weeks ago.... Keeps eyes/ears open... FYI -- I am about 1hr away from Norwich area if driving... to give you an idea...
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Hi Bob!

Have you seen/heard anymore regarding those helicopters?:please:

TIA...:seeya:
 
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