NY NY - Jonathan Schaff, 23, Granville, 18 Jan 2014

[OkieGranny]

http://www.fox23news.com/news/local/story/Man-goes-missing-in-Granville-area/8KQprBQU5kGV1G4_rJai3Q.cspx

Jonathan Schaff was last seen around 4:30 a.m. on January 18 walking east on East Main Street in the Town of Granville.

Schaff was involved in a physical altercation at the Riverside Pub where he allegedly received a head laceration and his glasses were broken.

Schaff is described as a white male, approximately six feet tall and weighing around 170 pounds. He has brown hair and blue eyes. Schaff was last seen wearing either a gray hooded sweatshirt or dark brown Carhart jacket, dark colored blue jeans and brown work boots.

http://www.news10.com/story/24496497/granville-police-searching-for-missing-man

Police have been searching for Schaff by foot and with a K-9 unit in the Granville, N.Y. and Pawlet, Vt. area. Cell phone data places Schaff possibly in the area of Sheldons Concrete or Newmont Slate Company on State Route 149 in Pawlet, Vt.

The West Pawlet, Granville and West Fire Departments; the Granville Rescue Squad; the Vermont State Police K-9 Unit; the Vermont State Police; and the Granville Police Department are participating in the investigation and search efforts.

Jonathan's Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.schaff.18

 

[SilkySifaka]

Hope they find him safe, that head laceration could be indicative of a brain trauma

 

[OkieGranny]

http://poststar.com/news/local/police-in-granville-western-vermont-seek-missing-man/article_0084737a-81c2-11e3-b408-001a4bcf887a.html

Police said Schaff and two friends had parked a car at Loomis Trucking, near the state line, and walked a half-mile or so to the Granville bar.

As they were later returning to the car, two of the men stopped for a cigarette break along the road and Schaff continued walking, Granville Police Chief Ernie Bassett said. It appears they were over the Vermont line when they stopped.

"There's a dip in the road and they lost sight of him. When they got to the car he was not there and they couldn't find him," Bassett said.

 

[SilkySifaka]

http://poststar.com/news/local/police-in-granville-western-vermont-seek-missing-man/article_0084737a-81c2-11e3-b408-001a4bcf887a.html

oh my that doesn't sound good at all. Was it there car or his? Either way its a short time span to go missing in,

 

[Wanting2Help]

Why would they park in VT and walk across the border to NY? Also, Why would they stop along the way for a cigarette break??? The smokers I know would walk and smoke at the same time?!?

Link to map (I hope it's right): http://mapq.st/LIujbZ

Weather history:
http://www.weather.com/weather/pastweather/Granville+NY+USNY0584:1:US?startdate=20140117

 

[SurfieTX]

Why would they park in VT and walk across the border to NY? Also, Why would they stop along the way for a cigarette break??? The smokers I know would walk and smoke at the same time?!?

Link to map (I hope it's right): http://mapq.st/LIujbZ

Weather history:
http://www.weather.com/weather/pastweather/Granville+NY+USNY0584:1:US?startdate=20140117

Maybe it wasn't tobacco?

 

[Wanting2Help]

Maybe it wasn't tobacco?

That would make a lot more sense! I hope LE checked the pings on the friends phones to see if it corresponds to time/location they stated.

 

[Sunrisenow]

A New York man is thought to be in the Pawlet area after disappearing early Saturday morning following a pub fight in Granville, N.Y., Vermont State Police said Monday.

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/...ew-York-man-extends-to-Vermont?nclick_check=1

 

[Sunrisenow]

Apparently many different groups, organisations, and volunteers are involved in the search according this article:
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/...h-man-last-seen-near-Vermont-New-York-boarder

I hope that they can locate him soon.

 

[Sunrisenow]

Search for missing man in Granville area resumes; Cell phone found

Vermont State Police said Tuesday they have located the cell phone that belongs to missing Vermont resident Jonathan Schaff. The phone was found in an abandoned vehicle in the parking lot of Loomis Trucking on Route 149 in West Pawlet, Vt.

http://poststar.com/news/local/sear...cle_3de1a022-82bb-11e3-97fe-001a4bcf887a.html

 

[Wanting2Help]

Does anyone know how closely they can narrow down the area a phone pings in?
Did the phone ping in the area of the pub that night indicating he had the phone with him?



I would like to hear more about the vehicle the phone was found in. It says an "abandoned vehicle".

Was it a working car or broken down?
Was it locked?
How long had the car been there? Was it abandoned that night?
Was the car ever reported stolen?

 

[Wanting2Help]

Dozens of searchers from New York and New England returned to an area along the state line that is dotted with slate quarries and streams, looking for clues as to where Schaff has gone. The search expanded to an area north along county Route 25 and Vermont Route 31 later Monday, after cell phone data potentially placed his phone further north, police said. It was unclear what the time frame was for the phone data, however.

http://poststar.com/news/local/police-in-granville-western-vermont-seek-missing-man/article_0084737a-81c2-11e3-b408-001a4bcf887a.html

So the phone traveled from the bar area to Route 25 and 31 and then back to Loomis trucking where it ended up in an abandoned car?

http://mapq.st/1cV2mDi

 

[Wanting2Help]

photos of search

 

[OkieGranny]

http://poststar.com/news/local/ground-search-scaled-back-in-granville-vermont-missing-person-case/article_d61c2b20-8372-11e3-95ec-001a4bcf887a.html

Vermont State Police had hoped to bring in divers on Wednesday to search the Mettawee River adjacent to the parking lot where Schaff was headed and where his phone was located.

Granville Police Chief Ernie Bassett said there is a deep pool in the river near the parking lot that police hope to have divers check.

But the cold weather had resulted in the diving effort being postponed as of Wednesday. Vermont State Police Capt. Donald Patch said the potential use of divers was under discussion Wednesday.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Oh my...

I hope this young man is found safe... And soon...

lease:

 

[OkieGranny]

Jonathan's 24th birthday today:

http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Birthday-comes-for-missing-Vermont-man-5164967.php

Troopers said it is common for people from Vermont to park just up the road in that state when they visit drinking establishments in the village because the small community has a police department. The Vermont side of the border is very rural and not as often patrolled by police.

 

[CrimeHater]

Happy birthday Jonathan!! I pray you're safe.

 

[Wanting2Help]

http://poststar.com/news/local/ground-search-for-missing-vermont-man-temporary-called-off/article_6ca60ad2-83d4-11e3-8227-001a4bcf887a.html

The ground search for the Vermont man who has been missing from the Granville area since Saturday morning has been at least temporarily halted as police consider whether to use divers to search a river near where he was last seen.

Police in Vermont and New York reported no new developments Wednesday in the search for Jonathan Schaff, who has been missing for five days.

Police officers, firefighters and volunteer search teams have combed roads and fields in a 5-mile radius of Granville and western Vermont but had no success in locating the 23-year-old Fair Haven, Vt., resident. In light of extreme cold and the extent of the efforts to date, no organized ground searches took place Wednesday.

Investigators hope divers will be able to check the Mettawee River near the parking lot in the coming days.

There is a steep, 10-foot embankment behind Loomis Trucking’s lot that falls directly into a deep, fast section of the Mettawee River. Divers hope to check a pool that is 10- to 15-feet deep just downstream of this area.

Schaff was last seen by a Vermont couple with whom he left Riverside Pub in Granville early Saturday.

The couple, whom he met that night, were going to give him a ride home or to their home, police said. They stopped to smoke a cigarette during the walk, and Schaff continued walking, they said.

Police have identified them and questioned them, and said no evidence indicates they were responsible for Schaff’s disappearance or that he met with foul play.

Their vehicle was parked at Loomis Trucking. Schaff’s phone was found inside a disabled truck behind the garage on the Loomis property on Tuesday.

bbm

Granville Police Sgt. David Williams said Wednesday officers are not planning to file any charges for the bar fight that occurred in the hours before Schaff disappeared.

Williams said those involved in the fight stayed in the bar, and no one called police or made any effort to file a criminal complaint.

Without a complainant or a victim, it would be difficult to prosecute anyone, Williams said.

Punches were thrown, and Schaff was said to have a small cut on his face from his glasses being hit.

“It was a typical bar fight,” Williams said.

The man Schaff was said to have fought, Clarence Gould of Pawlet, Vt., acknowledged he was involved in a scuffle with Schaff, but said he does not remember much about it.

Gould said he suffered a facial injury that apparently occurred when he was thrown out of the bar after the fight.

But Gould said Schaff did not seem intoxicated and did not seem to have any injuries after the scuffle. Schaff’s eyeglasses seemed intact

and he was wearing them, Gould said.

Gould said he didn’t leave with Schaff or see him leave.

“I don’t know why he left with people he barely knew,” Gould said.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Something is very hinky here... IMO...

 

[StacyMarie83]

Maybe it wasn't tobacco?

and with how cold it is --- i think you'd stop to smoke anything IMO I know I tried to go out and have a cigarette last night, took a few puffs and said screw that lol It was -4 w/ out the windchill here. I know they've been getting pounded with the same weather :-/

So young, so sad!