GUILTY NY - Joseph Comunale, 26, Manhattan, 12 Nov 2016 - #3

[Momoffourboys]

Jeweler to the stars” Jeffrey Rackover broke his silence over a civil suit that accuses him of trying to help cover up a grisly slaying allegedly committed by a much-younger lover he supposedly passed off as his son.

Rackover’s lawyer issued a statement Thursday saying his client “had absolutely nothing to do with these tragic events” and “looks forward to his total vindication when the actual facts are revealed.”

Lawyer John Rosenberg also said it was “difficult to imagine the pain” being felt by plaintiff Pat Comunale, the father of victim Joey Comunale, 26.

http://nypost.com/2017/06/29/jeweler-to-the-stars-breaks-silence-over-civil-suit/

 

[Luke220]

Jeffrey's apartment at the Grand Sutton is off the market again. I imagine he is still paying the rent on James's apartment. I wonder whether Jeffrey has traded the Mercedes yet?

 

[HastingsChi]

Jeffrey's apartment at the Grand Sutton is off the market again. I imagine he is still paying the rent on James's apartment. I wonder whether Jeffrey has traded the Mercedes yet?

How long are vehicles impounded if they were used to transport a corpse and considered evidence in a murder investigation?

 

[Luke220]

I just saw the following on reddit, and it is consistent with other posts that came up in my google search-
"There is, generally speaking, no set limit. They can keep it for a reasonable time to investigate the crime, and if used as evidence in the trial, until the trial is fully adjudicated. The definition of 'reasonable' depends on their legal authority in this circumstance, and their investigative methods."

 

[Momoffourboys]

I just saw the following on reddit, and it is consistent with other posts that came up in my google search-
"There is, generally speaking, no set limit. They can keep it for a reasonable time to investigate the crime, and if used as evidence in the trial, until the trial is fully adjudicated. The definition of 'reasonable' depends on their legal authority in this circumstance, and their investigative methods."

This is true. I've been following a MP case. Local police have the car for over 3 years.

 

[TeenaNJ]

Maybe their pants were already off? Maybe the narrative was established to justify their pants being off. Gemma's story doesn't add up- he was in the bedroom with no pants on after sleeping on the couch. When Gemma left JR was out of the living room and in the bathroom? I can understand the demand to remove bloody clothes but Gemma is maintaining that the stabbings occurred after he left so the clothes would not have been bloodied at that point. Gemma should have contact LE immediately after leaving the property.

good point - im thinking it was more of a 'justify all the pants off' thing than anything. I kinda feel bad about thinking this, but....

I'm thinking back to the initial reports, or "source" comments is more accurate (re: that' this horrible attack began as a fight during / over something of a sexual nature).. and then thinking about the parts of the story (or the defendants story I should say) that most of us - I think - are considering implausible, or at least questionable.
For example - the 'fight over cigarettes' (huh?) and now their explanation for at least 3 of the 4 young men being without pants ("drop em"??) - just sounds kinda sketchy for this "no pants-all male-slumber party" at their bisexual hosts pad - to me at least.
If it was about blood splatter, etc (hate even saying that ) then what about their shirts ? Haven't heard anything mentioned about that, so I don't know if that means they were all shirtless as well, or... - which again paints a different picture than what the defendants have claimed was going on that night.
I agree with the other posters, and expect to hear a very different side of the story when it's JRs turn, or the prosecutors, as opposed to the LD/MG camp, who - remember - are the one that have provided most of the details thus far (i.e. LDs 'admission' and MGs public attorney filings)....
not trying to sensationalize or disrespect anyone - just my take and wonder if anyone else had thoughts on this too...

 

[TeenaNJ]

Now it irks me...the initial reports that when Joey was found, his pants were removed.

Would that have the nerve to have used them to murder Joey?

Also, why would James have both Gemma and Dilione remove their jeans to use them to kill Joey? He needed two pair?

That story is a huge lump of bull.

yes, I am with u on the "lump of bull"!

 

[TeenaNJ]

Well, you're welcome to read the pdf of the lawsuit to verify that my words are accurate.

couple things I'm unclear of re: the lawsuit - I am going to look for that PDF that you mentioned as the news bits I have read so far still leave me with these ?'s....

I'm thinking there must be more to what is known (at least known to the plaintiffs) about the "clean-up" activities. Reason being, what I read so far (JR-Sr provided supplies / bleach) seems to fall short of making him an accessory - IF he didn't know what he was providing the supplies for (i.e. "Hey 'dad' the dog had an accident, got anything to clean up with? No, don't come in - the place is a mess from the party" or something like that ) UNLESS the surv. vid that they have access to shows Sr. ENTERING Jr.s apartment. Maybe one of our resident law experts can help on this (what qualifies as "accessory" and does the accused have to be a KNOWING accessory)...

and I think another poster had this next question like me .... how would it be known (to the plaintiffs) what subject matter was discussed while Sr and Jr watched football inside one of the apartments ???
Or if anyone knows if there's insight into this from other sources, please share - thank you !

 

[TeenaNJ]

It baffles me that both Gemma and Dillione complied to removing their pants and stood there while rackover was beating up comunale. They could've easily overpowered him to stop him from murdering someone. And why would Rackover continue a fight that started between Dillione and Comunale? It's so odd. IMO


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...drugs.

Mom, yes !
You are so right about that - with the added variable of DRUGS, it becomes harder to say what would be a "normal" action or reaction, to any of the happenings of the night for that matter. And... everybody is different in how drugs will affect them, and it depends on what drugs they were doing, etc. making it even harder to say why someone acted a certain way or how something happened. I also expect that there will be much about that night that we never know.

and not in regards to any particular action of that night, but rather as a general statement ...Drugs are known to be 'altering' in one way or another (mood / mentally / physically). Some drugs can get someone paranoid or confused, make them slower to respond or even freeze up, make them pass out or become otherwise incapacitated, or - depending on the substance - cause them to hallucinate.

In any event, I would guess that drugs will play a part - at least for some of the guys - in their explanations of how they came to act in certain ways that they may not otherwise (I.e. not coming to JCs aid, or not being aware, or whatever story they have...) MOO

 

[TeenaNJ]

Agreed. However this is not the prosecution's narrative, it's the latest tale of one of the defendants. His latest tale greatly differs from the previous incarnations. Additionally, Gemma's loyalty is with Dilione.

Personally I'll wait for the prosecution to present their case and not believe the words of a guy whose story has changed dramatically and is very self-serving.

EXACTLY! Very important to remember that this is only one version, not the prosecutors and not necessarily "FACTS"! (I have to remind myself that when reading the news, a lot has come from MG via his attorney)

I, too, expect a very different picture will come from the Prosecution - and even from JR, who as you seem to agree, is odd man out in the trio (when compared to the LD/MG loyalty and possible corroboration) ...

I expect to find that the closest we will get to the complete picture will come from a pieced-together combination, largely based on evidence from the prosecution coupled with maybe a small amount of selective details from the testimonies of the 3 stooges - I'm sorry, the defendants.

 

[TeenaNJ]

How long are vehicles impounded if they were used to transport a corpse and considered evidence in a murder investigation?

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I just saw the following on reddit, and it is consistent with other posts that came up in my google search-
"There is, generally speaking, no set limit. They can keep it for a reasonable time to investigate the crime, and if used as evidence in the trial, until the trial is fully adjudicated. The definition of 'reasonable' depends on their legal authority in this circumstance, and their investigative methods."

my bf had his car impounded by NJ/NY PA for ezpass violations (he was ultimately vindicated as their records were incorrect, grrrrrr......) BUT they kept his car almost a week, so I can only imagine it would be much much longer in this scenario as you described...

 

[Luke220]

The drugs must have played a key role, and perhaps it was the craving for more of whatever the drug was, that motivated them to return (LD and JC) or for MG and LD to stay in the apartment even once terrible things began to happen.

 

[TeenaNJ]

Re: "After undressing, the papers allege Dilione escorted Gemma to Rackover’s bedroom, where he stayed until he was told the leave the East Side Manhattan apartment"

Right of the bat - this story sounds so cooked to me. it just doesn't make sense - so protective friend LD takes little max to the bedroom and makes him stay there while the grown folks scuffle? And MG complies with this as well? As opposed to MG just booking the heck outta there? Or even LD & MG co-booking the heck outta there ? Sure.

And I suspect that LD will corroborate the story too. Sounds to me like it could even be an olive branch for MG from LD for talking to the Police and maybe bringing MG into the whole thing (going to JRs etc).

 

[Momoffourboys]

The drugs must have played a key role, and perhaps it was the craving for more of whatever the drug was, that motivated them to return (LD and JC) or for MG and LD to stay in the apartment even once terrible things began to happen.

If you replace "cigarettes" with "cocaine" in their original argument story...IMO this is closer to the truth.

 

[HastingsChi]

If you replace "cigarettes" with "cocaine" in their original argument story...IMO this is closer to the truth.

Exactly!

Since the fist reports mentioned cocaine use by all involved and the girls at the Rackover apartment. As soon as we learned that a safe had been removed from James' apartment I've thought that the most plausible scenario was that James was dealing and the product(s) were locked away in the safe. I've recently felt a plausible reason for Gemma to leave was to get the product(s) off the premises. (Considering the poor clean-up job they did in the apartment, I'd imagine that if this is the case then they'll find residue).

Why else would they let Gemma leave unless there was an important task for him to do for them? I mean generally when someone has you in fear of your life, that person isn't usually cool with you leaving having witnessed them commit felonies... Right?

 

[Luke220]

Phone records will reveal a lot. Where did Gemma go after he left? Did he continue to have contact with LD? I don't see Gemma disposing of the drugs, I think a more likely scenario would be that they had consumed them all.

 

[HastingsChi]

Phone records will reveal a lot. Where did Gemma go after he left? Did he continue to have contact with LD? I don't see Gemma disposing of the drugs, I think a more likely scenario would be that they had consumed them all.

The safe led me to theorize that we're talking ounces of whatever rather than grams... Doubt he initially was told to dispose of the product because if disposal was what they decided to do, the toilet flushes such things away (I saw Goodfella's...twice. LOL).

I also wonder if they were smart enough not to SMS, I tend to doubt they were that smart.

I'd theorize that Gemma returned to the apartment he lived at in Jersey. Unless he took NJ Transit and paid cash, they'll be a record of him leaving Manhattan.

 

[Luke220]

The Jersey City building is the type of building to also have cameras- it should be easy it determine MG's comings and goings on the other side of the river.

 

[autumnsantomauro]

The Jersey City building is the type of building to also have cameras- it should be easy it determine MG's comings and goings on the other side of the river.

Im sure they have video in and out of every place these guys went. NYC is FULL of cameras everywhere and Jersey City has at least traffic cameras everywhere. You drive in Jersey City and you dont need to be pulled over. Tickets come in the mail. They will lay this out clearly if the investigators dont bungle the investigation further then they already have!! I hope this train wreck gets pulled together for the sake of this poor kids family.

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[Lauranyc83]

From Crime Watch Daily fb:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1656962244328561&id=831373266887467

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