NY-LI 10 bodies found on Beach-Poss. SrlKlr-12/10-4 id'd; more found 3/11 #5

[Reannan]

Yep... here is what I have for my entire database thus far:


[FONT=&quot]Maureen Brainard-Barnes - Jasmine - 7/9/2007[/FONT]
Melissa Barthelemy - Chloe - 7/12/2009
Shannon Gilbert - Sabrina - 5/1/2010
[FONT=&quot]Megan Waterman - Lexy - 6/6/2010[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Amber Lynn Costello - [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Carolina[/FONT][FONT=&quot] - 9/2/2010[/FONT]

I added Shannon Gilbert, and put her before Megan Waterman and Amber Lynn Costello because she was last seen before they went missing. 2010 was obviously a busy year for this SK, and it is getting to be about that time of year again.

 

[Lera213]

so yesterday I was searching for Missing Prostitutes across the USA and I had just got started when I spilled my soda all over my keyboard. Anyway.....There were a lot of missing prostitutes in NM a while back the guy who they thought it might be died. LE never confirmed it was him but the missing prostitutes as LE sated "DROPPED DOWN" after he died. Now it struck me that they dropped down but didn't stop. Wonder if the SK moved?

Then of course you have the Vancouver case

And then this one I found on this site: [FONT=&quot]http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40621[/FONT]

 

[colette]

(sniped)


How did he Know the Sis' cell number? Because he was probably torturing Melissa and she gave up the info in hopes it would save her life!! Have there been any reports of suspicion that he kept his victims alive for awhile before murdering them?

MOO

wm

The killer called from his victim's cell phone. Melissa most likely had that number programed in her cell phone. She may have had pictures of her and her sister on her phone, I'm betting she did and the killer saw them.

 

[Lera213]

So he kills 3 in 2007, where was he in 2006? A SK doesn't just start out killing 3 people, he/she had to have killed once, waited maybe a while and started back up. So search on other missing or dead prostitutes should be zeroed in on 2006 date in my opinion. I cannot do it today, I have appointments.

Now look at the date of these post: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40621"]MD MD-Nine missing women and girls are sought in Harford County - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame] they are 2006

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Yep... here is what I have for my entire database thus far:


[FONT=&quot]Maureen Brainard-Barnes - Jasmine - 7/9/2007[/FONT]
Melissa Barthelemy - Chloe - 7/12/2009
Shannon Gilbert - Sabrina - 5/1/2010
[FONT=&quot]Megan Waterman - Lexy - 6/6/2010[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Amber Lynn Costello - [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Carolina[/FONT][FONT=&quot] - 9/2/2010[/FONT]

I added Shannon Gilbert, and put her before Megan Waterman and Amber Lynn Costello because she was last seen before they went missing. 2010 was obviously a busy year for this SK, and it is getting to be about that time of year again.

WHOA! Wait a second...Shannan Gilbert was reported missing BEFORE Megan and Amber went missing?! Is that right? :waitasec:

 

[Secret77]

There's been confirmation it wasn't Shannon's phone? I haven't heard anyone say who's phone was used to call SG's mom. Heck, LE is saying they don't even know about the call so how do we know who's phone was used?

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/family-man-called-6-times-from-victim-s-cell-1.2642589

On six occasions, an unidentified man police believe was involved in the death of Melissa Barthelemy, 24, used her cell phone to dial her sister, Amanda, between late July and Aug. 26, 2009

 

[Lera213]

so this is one MO of the SK that he calls a family member. This is one SK that needs to be caught ASAP! I bet he travels a lot and has done this many many many times!

 

[Lera213]

WHOA! Wait a second...Shannan Gilbert was reported missing BEFORE Megan and Amber went missing?! Is that right? :waitasec:

Maybe Megan and Amber's family or friends waited long to report her missing?

 

[Reannan]

WHOA! Wait a second...Shannan Gilbert was reported missing BEFORE Megan and Amber went missing?! Is that right? :waitasec:

Yep..... it is sort of like he completely lost control of himself during the Spring and Summer of 2010.

 

[dcgrumpy]

So he kills 3 in 2007, where was he in 2006? A SK doesn't just start out killing 3 people, he/she had to have killed once, waited maybe a while and started back up. So search on other missing or dead prostitutes should be zeroed in on 2006 date in my opinion. I cannot do it today, I have appointments.

Now look at the date of these post: MD MD-Nine missing women and girls are sought in Harford County - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community they are 2006

Only one of the identified bodies is from 2007. One is from 2009 and 2 are from 2010

 

[Reannan]

So he kills 3 in 2007, where was he in 2006? A SK doesn't just start out killing 3 people, he/she had to have killed once, waited maybe a while and started back up. So search on other missing or dead prostitutes should be zeroed in on 2006 date in my opinion. I cannot do it today, I have appointments.

Now look at the date of these post: MD MD-Nine missing women and girls are sought in Harford County - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community they are 2006

BBM - Atlantic City???

 

[Lera213]

Until LE reveals a little more which I doubt they will this SK could be anyone from anywhere!

I'm tired of my mind bouncing around. It is leaving me so unfocused.

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Yep..... it is sort of like he completely lost control of himself during the Spring and Summer of 2010.

Huge realization for me! So that means that SG goes missing from a known location in May, after making a 911 call. So her disappearance was certainly investigated that night. And then a month later, we have 2 more girls go missing, that just happen to end up dead very near the place where SG went missing the month prior.

The bodies weren't discovered until Dec., correct? So surely LE wasn't out combing the beach looking for SG 7 whole months after she disappeared. How exactly WERE the bodies discovered?

(Apparently, I need to do ALOT of backreading!)

 

[Secret77]

OMG! I just had a horrible thought, please forgive the horribleness but after reading this......

All victims in LI were strangled, which is why LE were thinking about the AC-LI connection. afaik, there were no signs of torture.

http://www.bostonherlad.com/news/national/northeast/view.bg?articleid=1330122

One source also said that all of the four female victims found in December were strangled. One had an "item" around her neck.

According to my own profiling, he disposed of the bodies quickly, and he does a lot of traveling, probably works in NYC and lives in Long Island, around Babylon / Massapequa / Lindenhurst, or viceversa. I wish i had more info about the times of the phone calls to MB's sister.

 

[susan1122]

I agree, there is a lot of misinformation a lot of rumors, and LE is not being clear about things or really informing the public. Yes I know they are looking for bodies, but are they looking for the SK??? A lot of us live in this town and are worried, we hear the helicopters and we hope that they have a suspect and know what they are doing. This guy is sick and needs to be off the street before he does it again, because while all the cops are at the beach he could be busy plotting his next victim and relocating inland.

When you guys were discussing the misinformation I thought about the headlines a few days ago (or a week?) that a suspect was found. That was huge and then nothing more about it. I think it was the same time the "drifter" was briefly discussed in the press. Yes, lots of misinformation and/or dropped leads and conflicting info.

 

[Reannan]

This is interesting... I used a search string of "Utopiguide Carolina New York 2009" (Carolina was Amber Lynn Costello's escort name.) Utopiaguide seems to be a fairly active site for reviewing escorts - primarily via the "massage" business. I have not yet found the "add" that was posted for this reivew, but it related to two girls who were posting as "sisters" and working out of a private home in West Babylon. The name of the thread is "Italia and Carolina". Apparently, some guy who had visited the girls was visited by SCPD on Jan, 14 2011 about a girl named "Christina" who had gone missing. He says that "They got my number from her cell and was able to get the texts we had between us." ("They" = SCPD) A review by another guy (Rickoshay53) in the thread is also interesting.... he did not have a good experience with "Italia and Carolina". He also relates a review from another site that says:

From another board:

"THIS IS A ROBBERY SCAM

I went to this house where the provder told me to meet her in West Babylon off of Americus or America Avenue ...

She had me come it got comfortable seemed really freindly told me there was a dog in the other room thought all was well. Provided the donation she slipped away and got comfortable and so did I

then there was a knock at the door and a guy came out of the back room, guys were yelling whats going on what is this my gf I said I dont want any problems nor do you I told the grl to return the donation for modeling and fetish **** and the guys got in my face one with a baseball bat again said I dont want any problems return the donation and I will leave that didnt happen I didnt think to bring the tooley and I started wrestlin with both guys we spilt out to the front yard where I made it clear that it wasnt over so after posting this for others to be weary I gotta go handle this situation.... Pictures are real and in the apartment that she was at
"

I guess I got off easy - just had a crappy session."

If the "Carolina" in this discussion was Amber Lynn, I wonder who the "Italia" person was, and if she is still around?

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...d=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

 

[Lera213]

This is interesting... I used a search string of "Utopiguide Carolina New York 2009" (Carolina was Amber Lynn Costello's escort name.) Utopiaguide seems to be a fairly active site for reviewing escorts - primarily via the "massage" business. I have not yet found the "add" that was posted for this reivew, but it related to two girls who were posting as "sisters" and working out of a private home in West Babylon. The name of the thread is "Italia and Carolina". Apparently, some guy who had visited the girls was visited by SCPD on Jan, 14 2011 about a girl named "Christina" who had gone missing. He says that "They got my number from her cell and was able to get the texts we had between us." ("They" = SCPD) A review by another guy (Rickoshay53) in the thread is also interesting.... he did not have a good experience with "Italia and Carolina". He also relates a review from another site that says:

From another board:

"THIS IS A ROBBERY SCAM

I went to this house where the provder told me to meet her in West Babylon off of Americus or America Avenue ...

She had me come it got comfortable seemed really freindly told me there was a dog in the other room thought all was well. Provided the donation she slipped away and got comfortable and so did I

then there was a knock at the door and a guy came out of the back room, guys were yelling whats going on what is this my gf I said I dont want any problems nor do you I told the grl to return the donation for modeling and fetish **** and the guys got in my face one with a baseball bat again said I dont want any problems return the donation and I will leave that didnt happen I didnt think to bring the tooley and I started wrestlin with both guys we spilt out to the front yard where I made it clear that it wasnt over so after posting this for others to be weary I gotta go handle this situation.... Pictures are real and in the apartment that she was at
"

I guess I got off easy - just had a crappy session."

If the "Carolina" in this discussion was Amber Lynn, I wonder who the "Italia" person was, and if she is still around?

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...d=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

wow, and since there is a male body found, wonder if...oh my

 

[Mountain_Kat]

Amazing find, Reannan. Amber Lynn Costello was from West Babylon, so very likely that is her.

 

[svpernin]

This is interesting... I used a search string of "Utopiguide Carolina New York 2009" (Carolina was Amber Lynn Costello's escort name.) Utopiaguide seems to be a fairly active site for reviewing escorts - primarily via the "massage" business. I have not yet found the "add" that was posted for this reivew, but it related to two girls who were posting as "sisters" and working out of a private home in West Babylon. The name of the thread is "Italia and Carolina". Apparently, some guy who had visited the girls was visited by SCPD on Jan, 14 2011 about a girl named "Christina" who had gone missing. He says that "They got my number from her cell and was able to get the texts we had between us." ("They" = SCPD) A review by another guy (Rickoshay53) in the thread is also interesting.... he did not have a good experience with "Italia and Carolina". He also relates a review from another site that says:

From another board:

"THIS IS A ROBBERY SCAM

I went to this house where the provder told me to meet her in West Babylon off of Americus or America Avenue ...

She had me come it got comfortable seemed really freindly told me there was a dog in the other room thought all was well. Provided the donation she slipped away and got comfortable and so did I

then there was a knock at the door and a guy came out of the back room, guys were yelling whats going on what is this my gf I said I dont want any problems nor do you I told the grl to return the donation for modeling and fetish **** and the guys got in my face one with a baseball bat again said I dont want any problems return the donation and I will leave that didnt happen I didnt think to bring the tooley and I started wrestlin with both guys we spilt out to the front yard where I made it clear that it wasnt over so after posting this for others to be weary I gotta go handle this situation.... Pictures are real and in the apartment that she was at
"

I guess I got off easy - just had a crappy session."

If the "Carolina" in this discussion was Amber Lynn, I wonder who the "Italia" person was, and if she is still around?

http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...d=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

I actually posted about this on here a while ago. I'll try to find the link. That review IS referring to Amber. She was involved in a robbery scam in July 2010. There is a thread about it on another escort review site and it contained pictures of her... it was definitely her. I think I know who "Italia" is and she is alive and well. You can figure it out with a little searching, it is not appropriate for me to post her name on here.

ETA:
Here's the link
http://www.longislanderotic.com/longislanderotic/forum

 

[NJGuy]

Wow great work by everyone involved. If in fact, Amber tried to pull some robbery scam with a bf or man on the SK, clearly the SK has shown he's capable of anything so who knows. Does anyone know if LE has spoken with Italia? I wonder if they have, or even know she exists.

In regard to earlier crimes committed by the SK, I posted a link a few days ago about a 20 year old prostitute that was found in the woods on LI (can't remember where) and was decapitated and missing her hands. It was in 2003, and still unsolved