NY-LI-4 bodies on Beach-Possible SK-12/10-All id'd,4 more found 3/11 #4

[scandi]

He's a former police surgeon; just because he left that job doesn't mean he's no longer a doctor.

True Carbuff, but I still have not found an office address for him.

When I first looked him up his address was ____ Oak Beach Assn, Oak Beach NY 11702. I think that is the address for the gated community. The next time I looked him up an address popped up with the Oak Beach Assn and a street #'ed address below that with Babylon as the city. ??? It looks like the street address is in the gated community, maybe not. But it is like the Temptations sang, up around the corner, down across the tracks from ~ The Fairway, or connected to it by 2 other streets. Not far at all.

 

[Lifted]

I have no idea but if he does, my guess is he keeps them in a special place to him. Gosh...visions of the tv show "Dexter" is running through my mind right now.

Yeah, I keep having flashbacks of Dexter too.

He always liked to keep his trophies really close...

 

[Claudette]

Ok, going on the idea that the SK is the Dr:

We're assuming he thinks like a normal person, that he views the escorts as human beings like we do. SKs and killers in general do not associate those they kill with "this is a living being" like normal people do. If he DID do it and WAS the one that called her mom, I don't think it was because he was nervous someone would figure him out. I honestly think he truly believed it would satisfy her worry and she wouldn't think about her anymore. He doesn't think anyone could view an escort differently than he views them. Kind of like "Oh I saw your sunglasses in the car" "ok thanks I'll get them later".

 

[Lera213]

Ok, well the link of that place on oak beach has some interesting pictures...MOO maybe the SK has connection with this group. I read the history and it was interesting to say the least. Here is the link if you want to read the history.

http://www.oakbeachcivicassociation.com/about/history

I hope this is allowed?

 

[Sistah Sleuth]

Do you think he would be cocky enough to keep them in his house?

Or would be possibly have a storage locker somewhere with his trophies inside?

Depends on what you mean by "cocky". Yes, I think he is "cocky" enough to keep them in his house or one of his houses. It's a place where it is safe and he can be "cocky" with them.

 

[SuziQ]

The Sketch has nothing to do with this case I think it's from the AC case.

It's been reported by LE to MSM that they are seriously looking at a connection between the two cases. That is why you see some AC stuff posted in this thread.

 

[carbuff]

True Carbuff, but I still have not found an office address for him.

When I first looked him up his address was ____ Oak Beach Assn, Oak Beach NY 11702. I think that is the address for the gated community. The next time I looked him up an address popped up with the Oak Beach Assn and a street #'ed address below that with Babylon as the city. ??? It looks like the street address is in the gated community, maybe not. But it is like the Temptations sang, up around the corner, down across the tracks from ~ The Fairway, or connected to it by 2 other streets. Not far at all.

If he's an emergency or trauma specialist, he might not have a private practice. He'd probably work through a hospital emergency room, clinic, ambulance crew, that sort of thing. A lot of police surgeon work would be similar -- tending to arrestees (is that a word?) who are injured or high or ill when they come in.

 

[Claudette]

Here is the best I could do with the picture that is behind PH during the interview. I think it is a picture of a girl with her back to us and sitting in a swing, or on a dock or something.

It's bride, pre 1960s.

 

[Lera213]

If LE believes that a LE officer could be the SK how in the heck are they going to keep what they do so secret as not to tip of the actual SK?

 

[NJGuy]

Ok, well the link of that place on oak beach has some interesting pictures...MOO maybe the SK has connection with this group. I read the history and it was interesting to say the least. Here is the link if you want to read the history.

http://www.oakbeachcivicassociation.com/about/history

I hope this is allowed?

I posted the same a few pages back, I'm beginning to think there is a strong connection to the OB CA. Especially if you look at all the sections on the page including the links section. I have a suspicion the SK is either a member or close to the CA. It would allow access to many of the things he needed to do these crimes. He would have knowledge of the area, know people in the community, have access to a variety of things. I also believe it's possible since the CA does alot of beach and beautifying work he would have intomTe knowledge of the areas, especially if working with a group like savethebeaches and others. For those interested, I have a name and address that is very interesting to note but of course would never post it here.

 

[Lera213]

I posted the same a few pages back, I'm beginning to think there is a strong connection to the OB CA. Especially if you look at all the sections on the page including the links section. I have a suspicion the SK is either a member or close to the CA. It would allow access to many of the things he needed to do these crimes. He would have knowledge of the area, know people in the community, have access to a variety of things. I also believe it's possible since the CA does alot of beach and beautifying work he would have intomTe knowledge of the areas, especially if working with a group like savethebeaches and others. For those interested, I have a name and address that is very interesting to note but of course would never post it here.

I'm interested and I think you are right and I agree with you. If he was seen in the day time digging nobody probably would think twice about him too. Not that he did in the day light, just saying what a cover. The history had a religious tilt to it also even though it was short lived. Made me think maybe the SK wanted it to return like that? Or his way to memorialize the center. Who knows what these SK think. They don't think obviously like normal people. lol.

 

[Claudette]

Did we ever figure out why this guy is called a "ripper", it isn't even accurate. Is it because it makes people think about Jack the Ripper, which many are fascinated by, and gets those people interested in the story? The only thing in common is they have sort of the same targets.

Dumb.

 

[chemcopout]

I posted the same a few pages back, I'm beginning to think there is a strong connection to the OB CA. Especially if you look at all the sections on the page including the links section. I have a suspicion the SK is either a member or close to the CA. It would allow access to many of the things he needed to do these crimes. He would have knowledge of the area, know people in the community, have access to a variety of things. I also believe it's possible since the CA does alot of beach and beautifying work he would have intomTe knowledge of the areas, especially if working with a group like savethebeaches and others. For those interested, I have a name and address that is very interesting to note but of course would never post it here.

what's ob ca mean? i apologize for my ignorance with the abbreviation...

 

[NJGuy]

I'm interested and I think you are right and I agree with you. If he was seen in the day time digging nobody probably would think twice about him too. Not that he did in the day light, just saying what a cover. The history had a religious tilt to it also even though it was short lived. Made me think maybe the SK wanted it to return like that? Or his way to memorialize the center. Who knows what these SK think. They don't think obviously like normal people. lol.

The whole page just seemed odd in the way it was presented. Something about it wasn't right. I'm sure more digging into could turn up something. I want to find the link in previous posts about the locations and maps of JB, The witness GC and the DR as well and see where the address I came up with fits into it, if at all

 

[Lera213]

what's ob ca mean? i apologize for my ignorance with the abbreviation...

Oak Beach=OB
Civic Association=ca

 

[scandi]

I seriously doubt this doctor is the sk. It ain't him. I'm sure I would fumble over words in a news interview too. Plus, he must be experiencing some level of embarrassment to even be remotely involved in such a heinous case.

But!

The call happened last May before media attention and way before the discovery of bodies. Apparently the sk used a throw away cell phone when the mother was called. How else could the doctor confidently deny making the call to the Shannon's family and LE? I'm sure the mother saved the phone number from the doctor and I'm sure LE traced it and it didn't lead to the doctor otherwise he would be proven to be a liar or somebody from his house made the call.

You see, I attempted after the "But!" to explore the angle of him being the sk but my train of thought got side - swiped. I guess it boils down to: Why would the doctor if he is the sk call the mother and give his real name and tell a lie that Shannon was with him and he helps people like her and then deny it when personally confronted? He didn't put Shannon on Gilgo beach as far as we know which eliminates any concern of his in terms of finding her, so why would he authentically make such a call?

Forget about it being the doctor. It was the sk who made the call just to mess with people and we know that he is not above behaving like that. There wasn't even a need for the sk to do such a thing other than manipulate, taunt and cause pain to loved ones.

What a wicked SOB!

OK Sistah, Then how did he get Shannan's mothers telephone # ???

I believe Sherre, Shannan's sister, addressed that on Shannan's web page in her comments. I had the feeling the family thought he was calling from Shannan's cellie which we have not heard of being found. If LE had her cellie I don't think she would have even mentioned - How did he get my mom's tele#? IMO

Gosh, it would be hard to imagine a professional man w/ 2 kids in Ivy League colleges would be a killer, eh? But, going into the physician's site he has a rating of 1 out of 4. And there is one comment that the patient thought he was either drunk or on drugs. It is public info as it is on that site. IMO

 

[Soulmagent]

Wow it took me 2 hours to catch up tonight I still havent read all the links but I ran out of tags and this thread may be coming to and end (new thread)soon so I was hoping someone can tag the following post;

POI intereveiwed post#459
OBCA POST# 486
Truck photo #494
# 497 dr hackett via CBS
post# 505 , Information

Post# 521 police DR

Post# 607 reveiw of doctor.

 

[Sistah Sleuth]

So...anybody have an idea what is going to be stated in tomorrow's press conference?

I think they may announce that they have received commmunique from the sk.

 

[carbuff]

So...anybody have an idea what is going to be stated in tomorrow's press conference?

I think they may announce that they have received commmunique from the sk.

I'm hoping they announce they've identified more of the victims.

 

[Sistah Sleuth]

Did we ever figure out why this guy is called a "ripper", it isn't even accurate. Is it because it makes people think about Jack the Ripper, which many are fascinated by, and gets those people interested in the story? The only thing in common is they have sort of the same targets.

Dumb.

I call him the Massepequa Murderer, myself...