NY NY - Queens, WhtMale 20-30, UP6027, wrapped in rug, Wht 'Fila" Sneakers, necklace, Mar'00

[Otterly]

This guy was missing from Queens And it's actually not very far from where the UID was found.

George Ostermann
Missing since May 24, 1996 from Queens, New York
Classification: Missing





Vital Statistics

• • Age at Time of Disappearance: 44 years old
  • Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'7"; 160 lbs.
  • Distinguishing Characteristics: White male. Sandy hair; brown eyes. Light complexion; thin build.

Circumstances of Disappearance
Ostermann was last seen at 19.30 at 153-07 73rd Avenue in Queens, New York in the confines of the 107th Precinct on May 24, 1996.
The Doe Network: Case File 1631DMNY

Looks like a good find to me. But, last seen "in the confines" of the 107th Precinct? Was he in custody? Did he escape? Or was he simply last seen being at the Police Station? If so, why was he there? There has to be more to this disappearance that hasn't been made public.

 

[madamx]

Looks like a good find to me. But, last seen "in the confines" of the 107th Precinct? Was he in custody? Did he escape? Or was he simply last seen being at the Police Station? If so, why was he there? There has to be more to this disappearance that hasn't been made public.

I think when they say Confines I believe it might be the area the 107the precinct patrols. Here is another example of mother flier with the same words

 

[madamx]

Question is who would wear a St Jude medal?

 

[Bit of hope]

Question is who would wear a St Jude medal?

Our Lady of Guadalupe - The National Shrine of Saint Jude

Our Lady of Guadalupe Church, at 91st and Brandon Ave. on the far southeast side of Chicago, was the first Mexican parish
established in the city.

Fr. Tort had a strong devotion to St. Jude Thaddeus, the patron saint of hope and hopeless or difficult causes, who was relatively unknown to the general Catholic population at the time. Many of Fr. Tort’s parishioners were laborers in the nearby steel mills, which were drastically cutting back their work forces in the late 1920s. Night after night Fr. Tort asked St. Jude for his intercession to help the workers of the parish.

This led to the Claretians establishing the National Shrine of St. Jude as a key part of the church. While the National Shrine is more widely known, the church today still hosts many celebrations and Feasts that reflect the culture of the parish.

The congregation at Our Lady of Guadalupe, as well as the European Catholics from the city’s north side, showed such great response to the devotion to St. Jude that Fr. Tort began regular devotions to the patron of hope, including the first Solemn Novena which was held on February 17, 1929.

Today, Our Lady of Guadalupe Church is home to a thriving parish community, which ministers to the Hispanic Catholics from the neighborhood and non-Hispanic Catholics from a variety of Chicago neighborhoods.

 

[Bit of hope]

Also in NY there are a couple of places associated with St. Jude.

"For more than eighty years, in the heart of Manhattan, New York, under the auspices of the Dominican Friars of Saint Catherine of Siena Church and Priory, the Dominican Shrine of Saint Jude has cared for tens of thousands of the faithful who have come to this oasis of hope."

Overview | Dominican Shrine Of Saint Jude

 

[Bit of hope]

Bitofhope you got me looking at this closet now. What Iam finding interesting is that he has the little flame over his head that St Jude always has. I don't believe st Benedict has the flame. But st Jude does not carry a book.

I go along with St. Jude. Good find!

 

[Bit of hope]

1212DMNY - Steven Aiello

Name: Steven Aiello
Case Classification: Endangered Missing
Missing Since: September 11, 1995
Location Last Seen: Bronx, Bronx County, New York

Physical Description
Date of Birth: August 18, 1972
Age: 23 years old
Race: White
Gender: Male
Height: 5'8"
Weight: 190 lbs.
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Brown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Scar on his forehead.

Identifiers
Dentals: Not Available
Fingerprints: Available
DNA: Not Available

Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Unknown
Jewelry: Unknown
Additional Personal Items: Unknown

Circumstances of Disappearance
Steven Aiello was last seen in the vicinity of 1957 Bronxdale Avenue. His disappearance may be linked to retribution for perjury as an associate or an alibi witness concerning the Gambino and Genovese Mob family.

I think this is a good possibility. Italian (decent), catholic most of the time, Fila is originally from Italy...(the shoes are just speculation) Mostly the eyes and eyebrows look quit the same.

 

[madamx]

I go along with St. Jude. Good find!

Ha! You got the ball rolling on that one. I never would of looked at it until you pointed out it was not JESUS! I think it was a bit of teamwork on that one!

 

[madamx]

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I think this is a good possibility. Italian (decent), catholic most of the time, Fila is originally from Italy...(the shoes are just speculation) Mostly the eyes and eyebrows look quit the same.

I can see the resemblance.

 

[Bit of hope]

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I think this is a good possibility. Italian (decent), catholic most of the time, Fila is originally from Italy...(the shoes are just speculation) Mostly the eyes and eyebrows look quit the same.

Find Missing Steven Aielo!

 

[madamx]

I just found this guy from 1996 dumped in Queens rolled in a carpet.. Where he was dumped is Not really THAT far from where this guy was found.. It mentions probable body packer But I don't go by that because cops thought one of Joel Rifkins Victim was a body packer (she just had a lot of drugs in her system)until he confessed to killing her. Anyway I thought I would post.. since our guy is in a carpet and timeframe seems to be the same.

Unidentified Person Case

Unidentified Person / NamUs #UP6802 Male, Multiple

Date Found March 24, 1997
Location Found Queens, New York
Estimated Age Range 40-60 Years


Demographics
SexMale
Race / EthnicityWhite / Caucasian, Hispanic / Latino

Estimated Age Group Adult - Pre 60
Estimated Age Range 40-60 Years
Estimated Year of Death1997
Estimated PMI--
Height 5' 5"(65 inches) , Measured
Weight 184 lbs, Measured
Hair Color Black
Head Hair Description dark straight hair


Circumstances of Recovery
unknown hispanic male found rolled up in a carpet opposite of 62-35 30 Avenue by a jogger. Probable body packer.


Clothing
gray sweatpants, gray sweatsocks
On the Body

 

[Bit of hope]

Hi Madam

I just found this guy from 1996 dumped in Queens rolled in a carpet.. Where he was dumped is Not really THAT far from where this guy was found.. It mentions probable body packer But I don't go by that because cops thought one of Joel Rifkins Victim was a body packer (she just had a lot of drugs in her system)until he confessed to killing her. Anyway I thought I would post.. since our guy is in a carpet and timeframe seems to be the same.

Unidentified Person Case

Unidentified Person / NamUs #UP6802 Male, Multiple

Date Found March 24, 1997
Location Found Queens, New York
Estimated Age Range 40-60 Years


Demographics
SexMale
Race / EthnicityWhite / Caucasian, Hispanic / Latino

Estimated Age Group Adult - Pre 60
Estimated Age Range 40-60 Years
Estimated Year of Death1997
Estimated PMI--
Height 5' 5"(65 inches) , Measured
Weight 184 lbs, Measured
Hair Color Black
Head Hair Description dark straight hair


Circumstances of Recovery
unknown hispanic male found rolled up in a carpet opposite of 62-35 30 Avenue by a jogger. Probable body packer.


Clothing
gray sweatpants, gray sweatsocks
On the Body

Hi Madamx, you are sure mixing things up. Do you think this body has a connection to the body we discussing in this thread?

 

[madamx]

Haha sorry I just saw another guy in a carpet in queens and thought it could be a pattern!

 

[madamx]

Steven Aiello is a ruleout for this rug guy.

 

[Bit of hope]

Steven Aiello is a ruleout for this rug guy.

Thanks, good to know. Did you see it on Namus? Was it a recent rule out as far as you know?

 

[Bit of hope]

Still pondering on the socks and shoes on the body but no other clothing.....

 

[Bit of hope]

This man still isn't identified. Probably a mob job, at least thats what I'm thinking.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[dotr]

[URL='https://www.namus.gov/UnidentifiedPersons/Case#/6027/attachments']Unidentified Person Case (namus.gov)

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Jewelry
Uploaded: November 30, 2016
Yellow metal necklace with a circular medallion with clear stones. Close up of Jesus on the medallion

Footwear

''SexMale
Race / EthnicityWhite / Caucasian
5' 9"(69 inches) , Estimated
Estimated Age Range (Years)20-30
Estimated Year of Death1990-1999''

''Skeletonized remains found wrapped in a rug by passerby as they were walking down an abandoned road near 28th Ave and Linden Place that leads to the Flushing Airport. Based on personal effects found with the body (FILA brand sneakers) and the skeletonized status of the remains on the date of discovery, this individual died between 1990 and 1999.''
Uploaded: December 16, 2016
White FILA brand sneakers, size 10. Sneakers first manufactured in 1990.

Jewelry
Uploaded: October 4, 2016
Yellow metal necklace with a circular medallion with clear stones. Close up of Jesus on the medallion
Jewelry
Uploaded: November 30, 2016
Yellow metal necklace with a circular medallion with clear stones. Close up of Jesus on the medallion


Jewelry
Uploaded: November 30, 2016
Back of a yellow metal necklace with a circular medallion.

 

[Bit of hope]

Unidentified Person Case (namus.gov)

Jewelry
Uploaded: November 30, 2016
Yellow metal necklace with a circular medallion with clear stones. Close up of Jesus on the medallion

Footwear

''SexMale
Race / EthnicityWhite / Caucasian
5' 9"(69 inches) , Estimated
Estimated Age Range (Years)20-30
Estimated Year of Death1990-1999''

''Skeletonized remains found wrapped in a rug by passerby as they were walking down an abandoned road near 28th Ave and Linden Place that leads to the Flushing Airport. Based on personal effects found with the body (FILA brand sneakers) and the skeletonized status of the remains on the date of discovery, this individual died between 1990 and 1999.''
Uploaded: December 16, 2016
White FILA brand sneakers, size 10. Sneakers first manufactured in 1990.

Jewelry
Uploaded: October 4, 2016
Yellow metal necklace with a circular medallion with clear stones. Close up of Jesus on the medallion
Jewelry
Uploaded: November 30, 2016
Yellow metal necklace with a circular medallion with clear stones. Close up of Jesus on the medallion


Jewelry
Uploaded: November 30, 2016
Back of a yellow metal necklace with a circular medallion.

Thanks for bumping. Before we are going to do the discussion upthread all over again. We concluded it's not Jesus on the medallion. After researching we came up with that this is most likely St. Jude.

 

[madamx]

Bumping for the guy in the rug.