NY - Twenty Fatality Traffic Crash, Schoharie County, 6 Oct 2018

[KaaBoom]

NTSB publishes letter demanding access to wreckage of limo in Schoharie crash

That District Attorney should be removed from office immediately. There is absolutely no legitimate reason for her to continue to hinder the NTSB investigation. Some of the evidence has already been destroyed. Now it will be impossible for the NTSB to conduct a proper investigation.

 

[alibrarian]

Can anyone speak to the fact that the limo is stored outside, under a tent? Given the weather in the Northeast is it going to have an impact on the NTSB reviewing the limo as it was on the day of the crash? I don't understand why it's not kept indoors as the rain, damp, humidity, etc., seems like that could have an impact.

 

[Mica]

Can anyone speak to the fact that the limo is stored outside, under a tent? Given the weather in the Northeast is it going to have an impact on the NTSB reviewing the limo as it was on the day of the crash? I don't understand why it's not kept indoors as the rain, damp, humidity, etc., seems like that could have an impact.

Maybe the destruction of evidence is part of a well designed plan...... IMO.

 

[gregjrichards]

Maybe the destruction of evidence is part of a well designed plan...... IMO.

It will be terrible if the twenty people who died and their families don’t get justice. I don’t like where the investigation is going the limo owner being an FBI informant should be irrelevant to the case.

 

[Isabelle]

Wondering why the delay by the DA?

Fishy to say the least. Is $$$$ changing hands, causing a delay? Expect to hear, oops the limo went to the junk yard and was crushed, a clerk make a mistake. Wait for it.

 

[alibrarian]

Others are asking similar questions Editorial: Cooperate on limo crash probe

There is a comment to the editorial re: criminal case being more important.

I realize this is from an editorial, however the articles in the NYT and WashPo did not have comments open, and I find that a little odd.

 

[Gardenista]

Others are asking similar questions Editorial: Cooperate on limo crash probe

There is a comment to the editorial re: criminal case being more important.

I realize this is from an editorial, however the articles in the NYT and WashPo did not have comments open, and I find that a little odd.

I don't find it odd at all. They do the bidding of many. IMO.

 

[borndem]

Others are asking similar questions Editorial: Cooperate on limo crash probe

There is a comment to the editorial re: criminal case being more important.

I realize this is from an editorial, however the articles in the NYT and WashPo did not have comments open, and I find that a little odd.

Thanks for the post and link -- an excellent editorial, IMO.

 

[mickey2942]

Can anyone speak to the fact that the limo is stored outside, under a tent? Given the weather in the Northeast is it going to have an impact on the NTSB reviewing the limo as it was on the day of the crash? I don't understand why it's not kept indoors as the rain, damp, humidity, etc., seems like that could have an impact.

And if the parts degrade due to improper storage conditions, that could completely derail the criminal investigation, or at least give defense rights to appeal any criminal charges, based on negligent maintenance, because it could not be proven that the damages didn't occur during storage.

 

[Tripod]

Latest news:
Police seize multiple limo plates after crash that killed 20

 

[Tripod]

The NTSB and Schoharie Co. DA's office reach agreement:
https://www.democratandchronicle.co...-new-details-emerge-investigation/2546554002/

 

[Mica]

The NTSB and Schoharie Co. DA's office reach agreement:
Fatal limo crash: Access to vehicle finally granted to investigators

Thanks, Tripod. Now I wonder how much longer it will take for them to get access to the vehicle?

Snip

"As a result, all parties still need to work out the particulars of how the NTSB will access the vehicle and complete its work," the federal agency said in a statement.

"We have reached out to all of the parties involved to begin these discussions, however, an agreed upon path forward has yet to be determined."

NTSB will construct a small structure to house the vehicle during the investigation, Tonko said.

 

[Tripod]

Thanks, Tripod. Now I wonder how much longer it will take for them to get access to the vehicle?

Snip

"As a result, all parties still need to work out the particulars of how the NTSB will access the vehicle and complete its work," the federal agency said in a statement.

"We have reached out to all of the parties involved to begin these discussions, however, an agreed upon path forward has yet to be determined."

NTSB will construct a small structure to house the vehicle during the investigation, Tonko said.

ASAP, I hope! Congressman Tonko is from Amsterdam, so I'm pretty confident he's keeping tabs on things and maybe greasing some wheels. I don't understand hold-ups, at this point. I really don't.

 

[Tripod]

Ugh. ttps://dailygazette.com/article/2019/01/14/ntsb-says-mallery-is-obstructing-its-investigation-deceiving-court?fbclid=IwAR2kMpoK3itsRXFzICb7Y1geulDHI5deIIE041kZG_kSX2HFX_6DmnYdTSgh. Much more detail on the hold-ups for the NTSB. It's past time DA Mallory talks publicly about this.
Sorry, folks. I don't know why the above didn't properly link.

 

[Mica]

Ugh. ttps://dailygazette.com/article/2019/01/14/ntsb-says-mallery-is-obstructing-its-investigation-deceiving-court?fbclid=IwAR2kMpoK3itsRXFzICb7Y1geulDHI5deIIE041kZG_kSX2HFX_6DmnYdTSgh. Much more detail on the hold-ups for the NTSB. It's past time DA Mallory talks publicly about this.
Sorry, folks. I don't know why the above didn't properly link.

Thanks Tripod. Fixed the link.

DA Mallery needs to be removed, IMO.

NTSB: Schoharie County DA obstructing its limo crash investigation, deceiving court

 

[Jax49]

Cuomo bans stretch limos and issues new safety laws in wake of deadly crash

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced a slew of new safety reforms for limos and large passenger vehicles, outright banning stretch limos and adding a number of regulatory reforms.

These reforms come three months after a limo crash in upstate New York led to the death of the driver and 19 passengers.

 

[Tripod]

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Thanks Tripod. Fixed the link.

DA Mallery needs to be removed, IMO.

NTSB: Schoharie County DA obstructing its limo crash investigation, deceiving court

Thanks, Mica. It was in the wee hours when I posted that....
I have to admit that I'm really surprised at DA Mallery's actions and inactions. I honestly can't chalk any of it up to inexperience in the D.A.'s office. She needs to answer some questions, for sure!

 

[alibrarian]

DA Mallery explains some things and an upcoming press conference is scheduled.

Schoharie county court Judge in deadly limo crash investigation: "This standoff must come to an end"

 

[mickey2942]

Reading the above looks like the DA messed up, and is now defending her actions. Some people just won't cooperate. Like a dog with a bone.

 

[Tripod]

Reading the above looks like the DA messed up, and is now defending her actions. Some people just won't cooperate. Like a dog with a bone.

I'm not so certain about that, IMO. She makes some very good points re: possibilities that the federal NTSB could possibly affect the local criminal case/s, which does take priority. Having said that, I do wish things had moved along more quickly. Keep in mind all the entities that need legal and proper access to that vehicle, including the defense team. I'm hopeful all this negative publicity will end the stalemate. We all want answers and the public deserves answers in this case, but I think the affected families deserve solid cases for some justice, first.