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In June 1937 the remains of a Jane Doe VII were found in Cleveland Ohio apparently the victium of the "Cleveland Torso Killer" of the 13 estimated victiums [including a 1934 Jane Doe Lady of the Lake} only 3 were identfied...two defiantely and 1 possible {jane Doe VII]
JAne Doe VII remains were similar to Rose Wallace a prostitue who disappeared in 1936
Positive identification could not be made for 2 reasons:
1) Wallace dentist had passed away..
2) Jane Doe VII was estimated to have died in June 1936 while Wallace was known to have disappeared ten months earlier on August 21, 1936,
reconstruction of Jane Doe VII
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Sketch of Rose Wallace
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In the summer of 1936 John Doe II was found...unlike other victiums of the Cleveland torso Killer
he had more clues to his identity
in his 20s, about 5'11", around 155 pounds, red/brown hair, and blue eyes. He had 6 tattoos: character Jiggs on left calf, anchor under cupid on right calf, Helen-Paul over dove on right forearm, butterfly on right shoulder, crossed flags on left forearm, initials WCG and heart with arrow through it on left forearm

His tattoos hint that he was in the US Navy; Coast Guard or Merchant Marine seaman

His first name may have been Paul
Possibly of Scandinavian or Slavic descent.
https:///wiki/Tattooed_Man
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John Doe (unknown-1936) - Find a Grave Memorial

The decapitated head of a white male was found June 5, 1936 and his body the next day at an area known as Kingsbury Run. John Doe was in his 20s, about 5'11, around 155 pounds, red/brown hair, and blue eyes. He had 6 tattoos: character Jiggs on left calf, anchor under cupid on right calf...
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Sketches of Unidentified Tattooed Man, Cleveland, Ohio June 1936​

Case​

The victim's head was found wrapped in a pair of trousers by two young boys close to East 55th Street bridge and near the Shaker Rapid Transit tracks. The rest of his body was found by police nude, but not mutilated, between the New York Central & Nickel Plate tracks, in front of the police building, and by an old shed. There was no blood on the ground, suggesting the victim was killed somewhere else then disposed. The coroner determined he was decapitated alive between the first and second cervical vertebrae, but he was not bound, tortured, or intoxicated with alcohol or drugs.

A railroad worker said that the head was not in the vicinity at 3:00 PM. Another eyewitness reported seeing a late-model Cadillac under the Kinsman Road bridge about 11:00 PM. It's been suggested the latter time was the dumping hour. A plaster reproduction of the man's head, along with a diagram of the kind and location of the tattoos, were made to display at the Great Lakes Exposition of 1936. More than one hundred thousand people saw the death mask and tattoo chart, but he still was not identified.

The victim, called "John Doe II" or more notably, "The Tattooed Man" because of his tattoos, is also referred to as "Victim #4" of the Cleveland Torso Murderer. Between 1935-1938, the Cleveland Torso Murderer was responsible for the murder and dismemberment of twelve transients and hobos in which only two were ever identified. Investigators believe there are additional victims. Although investigators had several suspects, most notably Frank Dolezal and Dr. Francis E. Sweeney, no one was ever charged and convicted for the murders.

"The Tattooed Man" was buried in the Potter's Field Section of Highland Park Cemetery in Highland Park, Ohio.
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Characteristics​

  • Reddish-brown hair.
  • Blue eyes.
  • High cheekbones.
  • Small hands and feet.
  • Well-nourished.
  • Narrow, handsome face.
  • Fair complexion.
  • Strong jaw.
  • Slightly prominent nose.
  • Missing five teeth: One upper and three lower molars on the right side and a lower molar on the left.
  • Possibly of Scandinavian or Slavic descent.
  • Several tattoos:
    • One of the comic strip character "Jiggs" on the right calf
    • A cupid below an anchor on the right calf
    • "Helen-Paul" over a dove on the right arm
    • A butterfly on the right shoulder
    • Crossed flags on the left arm with "WCG" with an arrow through a heart.
    • The tattoos indicated a possible military history connected with seamanship possibly CG [COast Guard] or US Navy or prehaps a Merchant Marine

Clothing​

  • The body was naked but some clothing was found at the scene.
    • Dark brown cashmere pants with a zipper.
    • A knit polo Park Royal Broadcloth shirt.
    • Two other shirts.
    • A worn brown hat.
    • White underwear with blue stripes and a laundry mark variously reported as "J.D.X.," "J.D.," or "J.D.A.".
    • Rather worn tan Oxford shoes with the laces tied together, size 7 1/2.
    • Thick socks were placed inside the shoes.

Sources​


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Wait, in Wake of the Butcher, it was said that he was killed where his body was found.
 
Startoveragain said:
In June 1937 the remains of a Jane Doe VII were found in Cleveland Ohio apparently the victium of the "Cleveland Torso Killer" of the 13 estimated victiums [including a 1934 Jane Doe Lady of the Lake} only 3 were identfied...two defiantely and 1 possible {jane Doe VII]
JAne Doe VII remains were similar to Rose Wallace a prostitue who disappeared in 1936
Positive identification could not be made for 2 reasons:
1) Wallace dentist had passed away..
2) Jane Doe VII was estimated to have died in June 1936 while Wallace was known to have disappeared ten months earlier on August 21, 1936,
reconstruction of Jane Doe VII
commons.wikimedia.org

File:8th Victim.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

commons.wikimedia.org commons.wikimedia.org

Sketch of Rose Wallace
commons.wikimedia.org

File:Rose Wallace.jpg - Wikimedia Commons

commons.wikimedia.org commons.wikimedia.org

Ref:Cleveland Torso Murderer - Wikipedia
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A friend of mine was taking a long time research, and he thinks this one was not the butcher's doing.
 
The Tattooed Man's days as a John Doe might be numbered:

"In an exclusive interview with 19 Investigates, Dr. Thomas Gilson, Cuyahoga County’s Chief Medical Examiner, confirmed his office is teaming up with Othram and DNA Doe Project in a new effort to identify victims of the 1930s cold case murders."

19 Investigates exclusive: Unidentified victims of Cleveland’s ‘Torso Killer’ to be exhumed, tested for DNA

"The DNA Doe Project is funding the investigation into these victims’ identities. They have no exact timeline yet as to how long this could take."
 
Mrs. Badcrumble said:
The Tattooed Man's days as a John Doe might be numbered:

"In an exclusive interview with 19 Investigates, Dr. Thomas Gilson, Cuyahoga County’s Chief Medical Examiner, confirmed his office is teaming up with Othram and DNA Doe Project in a new effort to identify victims of the 1930s cold case murders."

19 Investigates exclusive: Unidentified victims of Cleveland’s ‘Torso Killer’ to be exhumed, tested for DNA

"The DNA Doe Project is funding the investigation into these victims’ identities. They have no exact timeline yet as to how long this could take."
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This is great news!
 
Mrs. Badcrumble said:
The Tattooed Man's days as a John Doe might be numbered:

"In an exclusive interview with 19 Investigates, Dr. Thomas Gilson, Cuyahoga County’s Chief Medical Examiner, confirmed his office is teaming up with Othram and DNA Doe Project in a new effort to identify victims of the 1930s cold case murders."

19 Investigates exclusive: Unidentified victims of Cleveland’s ‘Torso Killer’ to be exhumed, tested for DNA

"The DNA Doe Project is funding the investigation into these victims’ identities. They have no exact timeline yet as to how long this could take."
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Im not sure if they edited the post, but Othram is no longer mentioned, its just DDP
 
Mrs. Badcrumble said:
In an exclusive interview with 19 Investigates, Dr. Thomas Gilson, Cuyahoga County’s Chief Medical Examiner, confirmed his office is teaming up with Othram and DNA Doe Project in a new effort to identify victims of the 1930s cold case murders."
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In an exclusive interview with 19 Investigates, Dr. Thomas Gilson, Cuyahoga County’s Chief Medical Examiner, confirmed his office is teaming up with DNA Doe Project in a new effort to identify victims of
the 1930s cold case murders.

This is what it says now
 
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Tempst said:
will that help solve the case?
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It might identify the remaining Does, given that they are found in the potter's field where they are buried, and are successful in obtaining usable DNA to conduct the genetic genealogy. The remains are almost a hundred years old.

As for solving who the Mad Butcher was once and for all, I don't know if any biological material exists that could be tested for a DNA profile to be used for the FIGG.
 
Tempst said:
will that help solve the case?
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If you are asking whether or not investigative genetic genealogy will help, yes, absolutely. The DNA Doe Project is dedicated to their work and have been at it for years. It's just a matter of people uploading to GEDMatch so the genealogists will have good DNA matches to work with and, hopefully, a close match to the victims who are being entered will be yielded.
 
Mrs. Badcrumble said:
The Tattooed Man's days as a John Doe might be numbered:

"In an exclusive interview with 19 Investigates, Dr. Thomas Gilson, Cuyahoga County’s Chief Medical Examiner, confirmed his office is teaming up with Othram and DNA Doe Project in a new effort to identify victims of the 1930s cold case murders."

19 Investigates exclusive: Unidentified victims of Cleveland’s ‘Torso Killer’ to be exhumed, tested for DNA

"The DNA Doe Project is funding the investigation into these victims’ identities. They have no exact timeline yet as to how long this could take."
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I love this update! Fingers crossed!
 
I hope this young man and the other victims can be given their names back.

Is it just me, or do the post-mortem photos make this young man look VERY young? People tended to age faster in 1936 than they do today, whether due to poor diet, poor healthcare or any number of other reasons.

This young man seems to have perfect fair skin, not weather-beaten or otherwise worn by age. I could easily believe he was only in his late teens, and I'd be quite surprised if he had ever worked outdoors in the sun.
 
Years ago I asked my friend who was in search of this case.

He said that the blond hairs (found near several victims) were lost, too bad.
 
Grungster said:
I think the lab will be using bone samples rather than hair
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Yes, for the victims, extracting DNA from their bones could be where they obtain DNA from to build victim DNA profiles. But I think the implication here is that the blond hairs found near several of the victims could have been the perpetrator's, which could have possibly been used for ID'ing the killer. They can now build DNA profiles from follicle-less strands of hair, so it's unfortunate they were lost.
 
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