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^^sbmIt seems odd that his jacket and glasses would be next to the fireplace.
Since there is no fireplace inside the house, it would be very odd indeed.
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^^sbmIt seems odd that his jacket and glasses would be next to the fireplace.
Why do you keep saying that Harley had been inside the house? There is no evidence of that.Harley was wedged into the space. So tight, his lungs could not expand. If that is the case, gravity would have no bearing. I don't know how Harley got into the house but I am doubting it was from the roof-top chimney.
JMO
I had wondered that too but assumed later that people with fireplaces probably know they don't stay wide open all the way to the top. I don't have a fireplace and I never knew myself until I was "this years old" and read about this stuff here. Websleuths encourages me to learn new things!
BBM. His coat and glasses were found INSIDE the house. If the chimney opening prevented Harley from expanding his chest to breathe, I think it is highly doubtful he made it from the roof all the way through the attic to the second floor.
If there was no room for his chest to expand, there was no room for him to push anything thru a flue which I find it highly doubtful he even knew was there because it was pitch black. Even the chimney "expert" quoted in this news article wanted to remain anonymous. I can certainly understand why.
JMO
Expert explains chimney design to surmise how Harley Dilly's coat, glasses were on 2nd floor of house
“Over in the chimney Harley’s jacked and glasses were pushed from the chimney through a flue and into a second floor of the home," Hickman said.
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Since there is no fireplace inside the house, it would be very odd indeed.
Sorry I assumed from the description of the chimney and flue it was part of a fireplace.
Adds to the mystery. The homeowner made this very clear on the first day HD located. (linked upthread)
There’s no fireplace in the home and he said the chimney where Dilly climbed into wasn’t in use.
“The heating we have in the house, we have electric baseboard heating," he described.
Was there a decorative fireplace? One video or article mentioned the house was pretty old was the chimney part of the original house? Did it lead anywhere? If they are saying his jacket and glasses fell out of the flue on the second floor that would mean there was some opening, right? If there wasn't an opening how does that work?
I don't get why he would enter voluntarily. I would think a jacket and glasses would be things you would leave on a roof if you were going to attempt to climb into a chimney. If you threw your glasses down first besides being worried about breaking them or falling on them and breaking them, wouldn't they kind of show you that what looked like the bottom of the chimney or entrance to the house wasn't? It would be like throwing a rock into a well sort of.The house was built by the owners great-great- grandfather around 1850's and has been through several renovations. There are a few illustrations in the thread -- the interior opening from the original chimney would be similar to what would have housed a stovepipe, and the opening was left uncovered when HD dropped his items down the chimney.
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But his glasses landed on the floor. I wonder if he heard them drop and So he thought it was open all the way down?I don't get why he would enter voluntarily. I would think a jacket and glasses would be things you would leave on a roof if you were going to attempt to climb into a chimney. If you threw your glasses down first besides being worried about breaking them or falling on them and breaking them, wouldn't they kind of show you that what looked like the bottom of the chimney or entrance to the house wasn't? It would be like throwing a rock into a well sort of.
The best i can tell, the dilly house does not have a chimney.The house where HD was found was reported as located on Fulton St. Did Harley live on Fulton Street or was his home on E. 5th St (around the corner versus across the street)?
Trying to determine if he had a chimney...
Is it weird that the flue would be open when the house was unoccupied? An open flue lets in cold air. Animals like squirrels and birds get into chimneys most of the time a closed flue prevents them from getting into your home. My grandparents had dead squirrels removed from their chimney at least once. They got trapped. It seems odd that his jacket and glasses would be next to the fireplace.
But his glasses would be no use to him on the roof if he was inside. I'm v short sighted and my glasses (or lenses) are the single most important thing I own. I'm literally helpless without them.I don't get why he would enter voluntarily. I would think a jacket and glasses would be things you would leave on a roof if you were going to attempt to climb into a chimney. If you threw your glasses down first besides being worried about breaking them or falling on them and breaking them, wouldn't they kind of show you that what looked like the bottom of the chimney or entrance to the house wasn't? It would be like throwing a rock into a well sort of.
Then how do you surmise that his body was found inside the chimney when the only opening to the chimney was from the rooftop??Harley was wedged into the space. So tight, his lungs could not expand. If that is the case, gravity would have no bearing. I don't know how Harley got into the house but I am doubting it was from the roof-top chimney.
JMO
Harley was wedged into the space. So tight, his lungs could not expand. If that is the case, gravity would have no bearing. I don't know how Harley got into the house but I am doubting it was from the roof-top chimney.
JMO
But his glasses would be no use to him on the roof if he was inside. I'm v short sighted and my glasses (or lenses) are the single most important thing I own. I'm literally helpless without them.
I think the poor lad dropped them down wrapped inside his coat, thinking he would join them momentarily. The coat was used to protect them and also made him more streamlined without it on.
All just my own thoughts.
Desperately sad case. It's unbearable thinking of him trapped and panicked.