OH - Katelyn Markham, 22, Fairfield, 14 Aug 2011, found deceased in 2013 *arrest in 2023* #5

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I would be interested to know what door was open and what her toxicology results were.
Patrice Battle was missing for four days before her body was located Monday, Oct. 26. Preliminary results of the autopsy performed Monday indicate the 33-year-old woman’s death was an accident, said Sally Poynter, coroner’s office medical secretary. Battle had no other injuries and was found outside of the car in the water, she said.
West Chester police said a car door was open when the vehicle was found.

Still interesting that two tragedies at the same school within such a short amount of time. Hope KM didn't know something sinister was going on and she thought nothing of someone from the school stopping by and she left with them. Just thinking aloud.
:worms:

http://m.journal-news.com/news/news/local/autopsy-reveals-missing-woman-drowned/nM5yp/
 
I have been reading here for years but new to posting. So please forgive me if this is not allowed. A friend found a Memorial page for Patrice Battle. I found Katelyn's comment on this page interesting. Wondered what others would make of it.
 
Where did the screen shot go of Kateltyn's comments on The Patrice Battle Memorial page? Was it not allowed, and if so why not? Want to make sure I understand the rules.
 
Where did the screen shot go of Kateltyn's comments on The Patrice Battle Memorial page? Was it not allowed, and if so why not? Want to make sure I understand the rules.

Hi, Fairfield Ohio Mom -- I found this under the rules forum (snipped and BBM):


Social Networks

Regarding Facebook, MySpace, Twitter, and other social networking or blog websites: Links may be used to direct posters to view something on a social networking page. But postings on social networking sites are not considered fact; they are rumor. Copying and pasting, or taking screen caps, directly from these pages is not allowed. Paraphrasing is okay. (Exception: If the Twitter or Facebook post belongs to a verified news station, it may be copied. But a link should still be provided.)

Also, social networking pages may only be linked if they are directly related to a case, i.e. the victim or suspect. We don't want to post to someone's mother, brother, employer, milkman, or postal carrier just because they know the main player. We also NEVER link to minor's pages (unless they are the victim). And be sure that the page actually belongs to the person being discussed. Do not link to someone if you are not 100% sure it is the correct person. And if a social networking is set to private and you get in the back way, you may not post what you find. Private means private!

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...iquette-amp-Information&p=2279603#post2279603

Hope that helps!
 
I have been reading here for years but new to posting. So please forgive me if this is not allowed. A friend found a Memorial page for Patrice Battle. I found Katelyn's comment on this page interesting. Wondered what others would make of it.

Something along the lines of Patrice not getting her "just dues" and K saying: "as bad as it sounds I hope it stops here. I want to remember you peacefully" really made me read it over a few times.

Maybe she didn't want the details of her friend's death lingering in her memory. As far as "just dues".. I mean one can only speculate. Did she mean Patrice didn't get the respect she deserved or that she didn't get to live the long life Patrice deserved? If their workplace was common, it seems interesting Katelyn would bring up respect and letting it go..:thinking:
 
I have been reading here for years but new to posting. So please forgive me if this is not allowed. A friend found a Memorial page for Patrice Battle. I found Katelyn's comment on this page interesting. Wondered what others would make of it.

Hi FOM

Can you provide the link to where Katelyn made the post...TIA ;)
 
Amanda and SchoolgirlShamus: Thanks again for your collected information about Katelyn's case. I put both of your sites to good use today as supporting links. This seems like the best place to thank you.
 
Dave Markham calls for a new detective.

http://www.wlwt.com/news/wlwt-exclu...new-detective-on-katelyn-markam-case/32238572


If this is all true, this is huge. Police know who may have done it, but have not done interviews????


Based on those tests, Green narrowed his investigation down to at least two people who he believes know what happened to Katelyn Markham.

"Subject one took a polygraph and failed the polygraph in epic proportion, per the polygraph examiner," Green said. "It was, as he described, off the charts. It was an epic fail for subject one."
Another friend, Green said, failed questions directly related to Katelyn's death and disappearance.

Green said he believes his evidence shows people who knew Katelyn, other than Carter, were around her the night she disappeared.

He said something happened among friends that August night causing Katelyn's death.

"I do not believe it was an intentional murder," Green said. "The individuals there panicked and dumped the body."

Green said he handed his findings over to Fairfield Police and police have yet to question those two people.

"When there's results like this handed in your lap and nothing happens, it's frustrating and it makes me angry. It makes me very angry," Dave Markham said. "I'm getting very frustrated. I've requested that a new detective be put on the case. Obviously, the current method of investigating is going nowhere."
 
Why is this news not surprising?...

:moo: :cow:

:justice: for Katelyn!
 
The only thing I can think of is that the 2 people involved have ties to the LE in that town. I hate to say it, but that is where my money is right now.
 
Wonder if JC is still with the girlfriend ? Also wonder if when the friend stopped by earlier that night and they were doing drugs if something accidental may have happened then?
 
I really hope they are on to something. I'd love to see Katelyn get justice. If it was an accident, what kind of friends "dump the body?" That's horrible.
 
The only thing I can think of is that the 2 people involved have ties to the LE in that town. I hate to say it, but that is where my money is right now.

I agree someone might have ties for sure. This news story came around the time of the anniversary of Katelyn's discovery, and now I'm waiting for Chief Dickey to say "We found something, but we have to keep it secret for another ten years or we'll jeopardize the investigation. It's the public's fault." Maybe this was another publicity push (which was a great idea if so). I haven't understood the thinking regarding secret information since the moment John stopped talking, but I'm getting closer to figuring out why human beings play this disgusting game (that's another discussion). There are reasons for detectives to keep very specific secrets, and they are outlined in state sunshine laws or "freedom of information" laws. There is NOT a need for this kind of near-blanket secrecy over a period of several years, especially when a case is growing cold. The FPD still doesn't have a Facebook page for a reason. More people are beginning to catch on to the realization that mistakes are being covered up, or there are indeed inappropriate ties; maybe there's good old-fashioned, small town corruption in Fairfield. I think it's a combination of incompetence and an unwillingness to accept accountability. Notice how Chief Dickey in the recent article implied that the PI ruined the relationship between the FPD and the two people who allegedly failed the polygraph. No arrests have been made anyhow, so who cares? No matter what happens, the Chief will not accept anything less than perfection on the part of the FPD as the perceived result, even if they botched the case. In emails to me he has already rewritten history in a couple of ways. Their primary goal, which might change if enough pressure is exerted, is to make the case grow cold or figure out a way to become heroes by changing facts. They might be willing to arrest to the wrong person, in my opinion. If you research the Chelsea Johnson and Joseph Oakley cases, you might wonder if any resolved homicide cases in Fairfield need to be reexamined.

If the FPD doesn't act, then what happened to Katelyn? What is the new information? What explains Johns behavior if it was not a homicide (premeditated or heat-of-the-moment)? There is a LOT to explain if this was an overdose. We're approaching the four year mark. Whether or not ties to law enforcement exist, we know some things for certain: According to the neighbors, Katelyn's car was there and John's wasn't when they arrived home. Katelyn's phone was disabled at 12:45AM. The CONTENT of the last text conversation links John's alibi location with a task John said he went to the alibi location to perform - burning a big bag of papers instead of staying with his fiance Saturday night - and there are many parts of John's story that are either improbable or self-contradictory, and which strongly suggest that something happened to Katelyn earlier than Midnight. If that's true, then John was a part of the disposal of Katelyn's body. There are strong indications of conflict in John's language, and simply related to his actions and timeline details. There are strong indications of staging. Katelyn's father posted within the last week that he still has the documents John claimed he burned. A convenience store clerk, "sex traffickers," and "drug dealers" were implicated through the years by members of John's family. A few days ago, John's aunt posted on her own page something suggesting "everybody knows what happened" (paraphrasing), but she naturally failed to mention what happened; that's sort of what we're all trying to figure out. The circle of friends might believe Katelyn died of an overdose because this is one story that's been passed around, and they might have failed a polygraph lying about a false story they believe to be true. However she died, a lot of questions still need to be answered. Even if an arrest is made by the FPD, I will not believe it's a legitimate arrest until I see the proof. Generally speaking, what happened seems pretty obvious to me today using basic common sense, and it's the same thing I thought from the first time I saw the news about the case. If a PI implicates two newly identified people out of left field, will detectives make an arrest without addressing the open questions about John? In this case, it won't work.

I'm going to keep demanding the same thing I've tried to demand for years, because now I believe more people will listen. If there is new information and the FPD won't act, then make it public. In Fairfield, law enforcement is not providing direction in the best-case scenario, and there are good people who are being mislead into thinking they need to hide information to protect a homicide case that might not even be prosecutable anyway. PI's might care about the reward, which is understandable. I recently discovered that we all have an innate desire to be unpredictable, to be in a position to better our adversaries (that's a hint about what I think some of the roadblocks are all about). If there is new information, what is it? Stop playing games. Does it show Katelyn was forcibly removed from her town home? If so, someone at the state or federal level needs to file lesser charges of some kind and re-publicize the case so anybody else who has been hiding information will be informed and feel pressured into coming forward. Then they need to perform an audit of the way the case was handled locally and force some changes in leadership.
 
Exactly where I am now too reversechapter. Well said.

Everything needs to change. There needs to be answers for Dave Markham and all concerned.

Dickey said it all when he said "no new detective is needed". Someone is protecting the one(s) who dumped Katelyn on the side of the road, knowing all along where she was and what happened to her.

Her so-called friends left her in a dump site to rot. No compassion, no concern, just to save their asses from drug charges.
 
I've followed this case from the beginning, and I've always had these thoughts:

-John's phrase "burning papers" was slang for smoking pot. Every group of friends has slang, usually part of an inside joke. Not a character judgement, the pot smokers I knew in college are all extremely successful professionals now - lawyers, government employees, tech jobs, etc.

-Somebody (John or another friend) stopped by the house to ask if she wanted to go hang out with them for a little while - burning papers, if you will. No need to take a bunch of stuff if you're just going out for a minute.

-She ended up with a group of friends - either his circle or another circle - and either was injured and a bunch of stoned people freaked out, or somebody was there with something way more than pot, which she tried and OD'd. However, I did NOT believe the latter is likely at all - unless the pot were laced. Even then, I've encountered that, and it's very unlikely that would be lethal unless it were an allergic reaction.

The problem with it now is that she felt she was decapitated. I don't think a bunch of stoners are capable of decapitating a body, alive or dead. I really don't. I think that people who smoke pot, just like the general populace, are perfectly capable of horrendous crimes. These are people who'd have to be 'bad' in general and have the ability to actually dismember a body. Most people trying to cover up an accident out of paranoia wouldn't go to those lengths. They'd just dump the body, try to fake an injury, or - put the head in a bag like she was found - something like that.

Is it at ALL possible that, given the state the body was in, that she had suffered some kind of accident and was internally decapitated, without having it done before death? Can they find that out? I'm relatively new to following cases in general, so I don't know if that's something that could be discovered.


If she was intentionally decapitated prior to death, or dismembered after death, someone in that circle of friends is capable of doing so. Could be a close friend, could be someone on the fringe who only showed up occasionally - but either way, the other friends are likely terrified of this person and went right along with whatever they wanted.

Just letting my mind wander a bit.


ETA: This person may have stopped by her house and never showed up to the party with her. If so, not John. Something tells me his friends would roll over on him in a second; he's not scary. At least that's not the perception I get. But the other people may have told him to stop there on her way, see if she wanted to come out after all - I don't know. I'll have to review the timeline again, my memory's foggy now on what happened at what times.
 
You might want to review the timeline.

John said the final text conversation referenced the burning of the documents as well. They were moving. Katelyn had discussed burning her financial documents with John's mother instead of shredding them. It was not a reference to pot smoking. The bag ties the last text conversation, which was supposed to show Katelyn was still alive, to the task performed at the alibi location by John; except we just discovered that Katelyn's father still has the documents John claims were burned. I suspect something in a bag was burned.

Animal activity separated some bones, like the jawbone. A plastic Kroger bag covered the head. There was no decapitation. From the LiveJournal:

-A tan plastic Kroger bag was covering Katelyn's head. Her jawbone was found outside the bag (possibly from animal activity).

No friends stopped by the town home, according to the adjacent neighbor. The lights were off between 9:30PM and when the last of the neighbors went to bed, well after Midnight. The homes are very close, and the parking lot is tiny. One neighbor got home, went back out to the festival, and came home again when it rained. Katelyn was already gone or lying in the dark, and John's car was not there. John's story doesn't match reality. Two different neighbors heard and/or saw a car pull into the parking lot and turn around after Midnight, but no doors were heard. The car was not John's.

If John is not involved, all of the questions pointing to relationship conflicts still need to be answered. I don't buy the drug story, but I could be wrong.

http://kmdce.livejournal.com/
 
Seems I've missed a lot, then.

There are MSM articles saying the body was decapitated. I assume that's wrong, then.
 

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