GUILTY OH - Tiffany Brown, 26, Bellefontaine, 11 Feb 2011

[truthsleuth]

Strange, isn't it? I wonder if Tiffany's mom just didn't correct some of the details on the show?

Also strange is that the male in the apartment complex says he didn't know Tiffany then said he did.

It's a bit troubling and I've been trying to rationalize it a bit. So far, I can't. I suppose one could say he just didn't want to get involved, or was worried about being questioned by LE, but lying just makes him look like a suspect. We shall see.

 

[curiousc]

It's a bit troubling and I've been trying to rationalize it a bit. So far, I can't. I suppose one could say he just didn't want to get involved, or was worried about being questioned by LE, but lying just makes him look like a suspect. We shall see.

The perp wasn't very smart. He used Tiffany's cell phone to call Chicago, is probably the one who sent the text message and then doesn't move the seat forward in the car. I think LE will find evidence of who is responsible.

If this guy is perhaps involved, her car is found in his parking lot.

They also said on NG that Tiffany went to school. I wonder if it could be someone she knew from there.

 

[truthsleuth]

The perp wasn't very smart. He used Tiffany's cell phone to call Chicago, is probably the one who sent the text message and then doesn't move the seat forward in the car. I think LE will find evidence of who is responsible.

If this guy is perhaps involved, her car is found in his parking lot.

They also said on NG that Tiffany went to school. I wonder if it could be someone she knew from there.

I definitely agree. Not the brightest. The fact that he left the seat pushed back makes me wonder the height of this guy who first said "I don't know her" and later switched to the fact that he did know her. I also wonder if the perp's fingerprints are on the lever to push the seat back.

Perhaps the reason we haven't heard of searches for Tiffany is that LE has already centered in on this guy. We might have an answer to what happened to her far sooner than we originally thought.

 

[curiousc]

I definitely agree. Not the brightest. The fact that he left the seat pushed back makes me wonder the height of this guy who first said "I don't know her" and later switched to the fact that he did know her. I also wonder if the perp's fingerprints are on the lever to push the seat back.

Perhaps the reason we haven't heard of searches for Tiffany is that LE has already centered in on this guy. We might have an answer to what happened to her far sooner than we originally thought.

I do think that no word of searches does say a lot. LE was on this case from the get-go and then add in mistakes the perp made, I think they may have more info than we think.

Pretty sure that they may know who owns that number in Chicago and that person may just tell who it was that called. That's probably the biggest tip right there and perhaps LE knows exactly who called that number.

 

[debloree]

http://www.examiner.org/index.php?o...phone-detailed-&catid=34:local-news&Itemid=55

“Tiffany’s mom called me about 6 a.m. Saturday and told me that she’s been missing since Friday afternoon,” said Mr. Heitman. “That’s when I started texting and trying to call Tiffany.”

Mr. Heitman received one text message reply from Ms. Brown’s phone and he forwarded it to the Examiner. It reads: “INe e d time come get boysU

 

[Bratislava]

http://www.examiner.org/index.php?o...phone-detailed-&catid=34:local-news&Itemid=55

“Tiffany’s mom called me about 6 a.m. Saturday and told me that she’s been missing since Friday afternoon,” said Mr. Heitman. “That’s when I started texting and trying to call Tiffany.”

Mr. Heitman received one text message reply from Ms. Brown’s phone and he forwarded it to the Examiner. It reads: “INe e d time come get boysU

Hmmmm.... This article makes Mr. Heitman sound awfully fishy. Anyone else get the same vibe?

 

[Amster]

http://www.examiner.org/index.php?o...phone-detailed-&catid=34:local-news&Itemid=55

“Tiffany’s mom called me about 6 a.m. Saturday and told me that she’s been missing since Friday afternoon,” said Mr. Heitman. “That’s when I started texting and trying to call Tiffany.”

Mr. Heitman received one text message reply from Ms. Brown’s phone and he forwarded it to the Examiner. It reads: “INe e d time come get boysU

Just great....Mr. Heitman sounds like a real loser. :innocent:

That text message is scary and probably not from Tiffany unless she was forced to send it under duress. If not from her, then someone who knows she has 2 kids from Heitman sent it.

Has Tiffany done anything like this before? For mom not to be concerned, immediately and babysitter to wait for so many hours before contacting mom.....seems odd to me. Especially if Tiffany called and told the babysitter not to feed her kids, she was bringing pizza and then didn't do it?? Why was babysitter not frantic with worry?? Hink

 

[Amster]

Really odd that nobody could get in touch with Tiffany until H started texting and calling....

 

[SurfieTX]

Just great....Mr. Heitman sounds like a real loser. :innocent:

That text message is scary and probably not from Tiffany unless she was forced to send it under duress. If not from her, then someone who knows she has 2 kids from Heitman sent it.

Has Tiffany done anything like this before? For mom not to be concerned, immediately and babysitter to wait for so many hours before contacting mom.....seems odd to me. Especially if Tiffany called and told the babysitter not to feed her kids, she was bringing pizza and then didn't do it?? Why was babysitter not frantic with worry?? Hink

Devil's advocate: The babysitter could have put the kids in their rooms or her rooms to watch TV and they fell asleep waiting for mom and the pizza. Maybe she fell asleep as well? If they were good friends, perhaps the flag was at half mast at that point...concerned, but not to the point of calling the police just yet because it was a Friday night. By Saturday morning, the flag was all the way up the pole and mom called LE.

I'm not entirely sure what to make of the ex. He seems pretty forthcoming, but he has a not too great of a past..so..

 

[Whatever1]

I don't know about anyone else, but I guess the length of time that it took to report her missing doesn't surprise me. I'm sure when someone has they loved one go missing in this fashion, one doesn't automatically think, "Oh, goodness, someone must have kidnapped her." It seems normal to me that family members might try to talk themselves into other reasons for their loved one not showing up. At first family members might be more angry thinking how dare she not pick up her kids, did she do this or do that, is she here or there? They probably think in their heads, "If I call police and it's only been 3 hours since she was supposed to be home they are going to think I'm overreacting. I don't know, I guess I can see why family might not report something like this right away, no matter how out of character it may be for the person. Most of us will never know what we would do in the same situation, and hopefully, we will never have to know. Just a flip side of the coin...

 

[curiousc]

Hmmmm.... This article makes Mr. Heitman sound awfully fishy. Anyone else get the same vibe?

Hate to say it, but I was a bit freaked out by his picture.

Anyhow, I really hope they have checked him out. His past with his last girlfriend doesn't sound too nice.

 

[truthsleuth]

Really odd that nobody could get in touch with Tiffany until H started texting and calling....

Excellent observation, Amster.

I'd be watching Mr. Heitman pretty closely if I were LE.

 

[mommy23]

Did the article state they had 2 kids together, a boy and a girl? Ages 2 and 3?? Or am I hallucianating? I am having comp issues with quoting....

 

[truthsleuth]

Did the article state they had 2 kids together, a boy and a girl? Ages 2 and 3?? Or am I hallucianating? I am having comp issues with quoting....

My understanding was he had the two boys with Tiffany and a boy and a girl with the more recent girlfriend.

 

[Teabiscuit]

I'm a newbie, but have been reading here for awhile. I love Nancy Grace and how she and her fans relentlessly seek justice. This Tiffany Brown case has me saddened. I snooped around at her exes Facebook. It's amazing how people can just post their personal lives in public like this. Maybe Tiffany did rekindle something with her ex and her mom slipped that out on NG the other night.

Here's the Facebook account of the ex:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001647906668&sk=wall

It's set to public view. Between Jan. 1st and Jan. 4th, lots of personal activity. Between those dates he first changes his relationship status from "in a relationship" to "in an open relationship." Then shortly thereafter, his page states: Brian is no longer listed as "in an open relationship." Then he becomes Facebook friends with "Tiffany Brown".

On January 29th he posts to a friend who has just broken up with someone "Brian Heitman: I got rida mine too finaly get at me heather or message me ur number we need to kick it asap
January 29 at 6:45am"

Someone is a morning person too. Hmmm. When did he break up with baby mama # 2, if at all? Is she the jealous type?

 

[Fairy1]

Welcome Teabiscuit! So happy to see some new eyes here!

Oh yeah - the ex is definitely one, big walking red flag! And if he's involved in this somehow, he doesn't seem to be the sharpest tool in the shed.

The text message (such as it is)....who else would know to send him a message about his own boys? And who would be stoopid enough to do that when others had been trying to reach Tiffany for hours? Duh. I think he implicated himself right there.

And claiming he and Tiffany get along great? Ummmm, if that's not true, I'm sure plenty of people know all about it; starting with Tiffany's Mother.

Jeez. I'm betting LE is all over this. I hope Tiffany is found soon.

 

[SuziQ]

Pure speculation.....
I wonder if Brian asked to pick up the boys or something on Saturday morning when he got a call from Tiffany's mom. She probably said no way Tiffany isn't here to approve that. Then suddenly a few minutes later he just happens to conveniently get the text from Tiffany telling him to get your boys. I wonder what his text verbage is like? Wonder where his phone was pinging Saturday Morning?

This case has me wondering alot. lol.

 

[Teabiscuit]

Thank you. As a mother, that text message is chilling. He could have left his phone at home, 131 miles away, leaving it to ping away there and simply texted himself from her phone. Your phone is not necessarily proof of where you're physically at.

I got the impression that the phone was turned off and turned on briefly early the next morning. The girlfriend with the other two kids could probably figure out who he was by searching Tiffany's phone. But unless she was 6 feet tall, that wouldn't explain who was driving Tiffany's car.

Maybe they both robbed her of her tax return. My brother lets his ex-wife claim all of his children on her tax return because it computes out better. Then she shares it with him, as they are on good terms. (And he pays child support.)

This is just every parents nightmare. 9 times out of 10, you're killed by someone you know, making them more a threat to your person than a stranger.

My prayers for the best outcome to Tiffany and her dear babies.

 

[Fairy1]

If someone she knew took Tiffany, they had to have known where she was planning to go that day. I wonder if she would have told her ex that she was going to the bank and WU. And if she'd mentioned she received her tax refund?

 

[Whatever1]

I think I'm missing something....I finally watched NG from last night, and this is what confused me...anyone else?

I was under the assumption she left to run errands when she dropped the kids off...hence the bank deposit and what was supposed to be Western Union transaction, and it was after the bank deposit that there was no more "activity."

On Nancy Grace the mother said...she made bank deposit, then picked up kids at daycare, and THEN went the babysitters, dropped the kids off and said I will be back in half an hour. Was it then she was going to Western Union or was that in the first leg of the day during the bank deposit and picking the kids up at daycare.

Let's suppose she did bank deposit, picked kids up from daycare, and then told the babysitter she would be back in a half hour. Is it possible she had other plans in the half hour then the western union...such as a quick meet up with someone.

Also, her mother thought she was going to pick up the boyfriend? Did she mean her boyfriend or the mother's boyfriend bc they were supposed to go shopping for a VD gift.

I wonder if she went to meet someone real quick before she planned to take her kids for pizza, and then was supposed to meet mom's boyfriend for VD - that's what I got out of the conversation.

Did she let out to someone she got her tax return? This whole thing is baffling. If she didn't make it to Western Union after dropping the kids off, the bank deposit was done, and she was coming back for pizza...what were her plans for that "half hour" her mother said she told the babysitter she'd be gone.

I'm sure the tidbits of info. that the police do have that they are releasing can explain alot more...