Identified! OH - Troy, Miami Co., 'Buckskin Girl' WhtFem 133UFOH, 15-25, Apr'81 - Marcia King

[Roselvr]

I don't know where Doe net got northeast or Canada. As far as I know they have not done isotopes on her teeth or bone yet

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/133ufoh.html

I just emailed Doe Net asking where Canada came from. I gave them links to 2 articles, one on the pollen and one on the isotopes

 

[MelmothTheLost]

I don't know where Doe net got northeast or Canada. As far as I know they have not done isotopes on her teeth or bone yet

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/133ufoh.html

Is she being confused with Racine County Jane Doe, whose isotope results do suggest she could have been from western Canada or Alaska?

 

[Onfortuneswheel]

She was from or spent a significant amount of time in the northeastern dry-oak forest region, which includes areas in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island.
A high level of soot from vehicle traffic and/or industrial activity was also found on her clothing suggesting that she spent a significant amount of time in an urban area within the Northeastern region or possibly from hitchhiking.
Some pollen grains in excellent condition, from a more arid region in the western U.S. or northern Mexico, were found on the outer layers of her clothing, including her jeans and jacket. This suggests that the female traveled to an arid region in the western U.S. or northern Mexico shortly before she was killed.
She was from or spent a significant amount of time in the northeastern dry-oak forest region, which includes areas in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island.
A high level of soot from vehicle traffic and/or industrial activity was also found on her clothing suggesting that she spent a significant amount of time in an urban area within the Northeastern region or possibly from hitchhiking.
Some pollen grains in excellent condition, from a more arid region in the western U.S. or northern Mexico, were found on the outer layers of her clothing, including her jeans and jacket. This suggests that the female traveled to an arid region in the western U.S. or northern Mexico shortly before she was killed.

I believe the Northeast connection came from the pollen testing. Dry oak forest ranges go all the way into Canada.

 

[Roselvr]

Is she being confused with Racine County Jane Doe, whose isotope results do suggest she could have been from western Canada or Alaska?

I should have just said Canada lol
I have to find someone else to email; the person I contacted isn't with DN any more; told me to find someone else.

I do think they're confusng her with someone else or got the info from a poorly written article. I have 2 to give whoever I can speak to. Hopefully they'll fix it.

I believe she was being exhumed to run isotopes on her teeth but google isnshowing results yet.

 

[dotr]

Repost/reminder and a thought concerning the dry oak on BS's clothing..
Could pollen be on her clothing as a result of working with oak, ie. some kind of wood-working job or hobby, as opposed to spending time in a forest?
imo, speculation.

http://bangordailynews.com/2016/04/29/news/state/unidentified-ohio-homicide-victim-may-be-from-maine-investigators-say/

On Sunday, the Miami County Sheriff’s Office received lab results from the pollen testing on the clothing. Pollen analysis of the clothing recovered on the woman suggest that she was from or spent a significant amount of time in the northeastern dry-oak forest region, which includes areas in Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Maine and Rhode Island.

A high level of soot from vehicle traffic and/or industrial activity was also found on her clothing, suggesting that she spent a significant amount of time in an urban area within the Northeastern region or possibly from hitchhiking. Some pollen grains in excellent condition, from a more arid region in the western U.S. or northern Mexico, were found on the outer layers of her clothing, including her jeans and jacket. This suggests that the woman traveled to an arid region in the western U.S. or northern Mexico shortly before she was killed.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/04/30/1981-ohio-jane-doe-murder-victim-could-be-from-connecticut.html

Pollen recovered from her clothes shows she may have spent a significant amount of time in the northeast dry-oak forest region of the U.S., which includes Connecticut, the station reported.

“Dominant pollen that was found on this young lady’s clothing was oak,” Carol Schweitzer, of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, told the station.

“In addition, there was a lot of spruce and hemlock and those three pollens the researcher was able to articulate were from the northeastern U.S., probably in a very heavy forest area,” she said

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http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/133ufoh.html

Evidence indicates that the body was transported to the scene from another location. Investigators believe she may have been a runaway or just a wanderer, hitching rides from one state to the next, although it did not appear that she had been on the road very long.

In 2016, isotope and pollen testing were performed on the victim's hair, fingernails and clothing. The tests showed that she had spent time in urban areas, based on soot on her clothing. Pollen found indicated she spent time in regions consistant with the South Western and South Eastern part of the United States or northern Mexico. The isotope testing indicated she likely originated from the Northeastern part of the United States or Canada.

rbbm

 

[Alleykins]

Excellent idea, Dot! That could also explain some of the scarring on her wrists and hands

 

[dotr]

Considering Buckskin's jacket, found this info. about Hemlock, one of the wood components identified in the isotope test, interesting, fwiw.
http://www.woodmagazine.com/materials-guide/lumber/wood-species-2/hemlock

During the last century the bark of hemlock was sometimes worth more than the wood. The leather-tanning and fur-processing industries demanded hemlock bark for its high tannic acid content. Hides and skins infused with a tannic-acid solution become soft and strong.

 

[Springrain]

I don't know where Doe net got northeast or Canada. As far as I know they have not done isotopes on her teeth or bone yet

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/133ufoh.html

They have not, and I don't think they have any plans to.

They did isotopes from her hair and nails, which only goes back about a year. Those revealed that she was in the Northeast US (nothing about Canada) and had spent two two-month periods in the Texas/Oklahoma region during the last year of her life.

 

[nerosleuth]

Repost/reminder and a thought concerning the dry oak on BS's clothing..

Could pollen be on her clothing as a result of working with oak, ie. some kind of wood-working job or hobby, as opposed to spending time in a forest?
imo, speculation.

Here are two thoughts to possibly consider about BG being in Northeastern part of the United States.

One thought is that she could have hiked somewhere along the Appalachian Trail in the Northeast.

Another thought is that she could have worked taking maple syrup from trees in the Northeast.

 

[WyomingSkyAngel]

Rbbm.
Considering Buckskin's appears to have been very healthy in life, wondering if she may have received those scars from ice/figure skating mishaps?
http://www.sportsmedtoday.com/laceration-va-90.htm

This is a good idea. I had assumed the scars were from horseback riding.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Considering Buckskin's jacket, found this info. about Hemlock, one of the wood components identified in the isotope test, interesting, fwiw.
http://www.woodmagazine.com/materials-guide/lumber/wood-species-2/hemlock

Brilliant!

 

[tatertot]

Kim Cozart is not listed as a rule-out:

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3696dfca.html
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/29117/0/

Her stated height of five feet zero inches (at fifteen years of age, in 1977) is quite off Buckskin Girl's five feet six inches, but it's notable that both have brown eyes and reddish-brown hair. Cozart appears to have freckles and if you enlarge her photo on NamUs, she is wearing a Native American thunderbird necklace with beads.

 

[dotr]

Kim Cozart is not listed as a rule-out:

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3696dfca.html
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/29117/0/

Her stated height of five feet zero inches (at fifteen years of age, in 1977) is quite off Buckskin Girl's five feet six inches, but it's notable that both have brown eyes and reddish-brown hair. Cozart appears to have freckles and if you enlarge her photo on NamUs, she is wearing a Native American thunderbird necklace with beads.

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/photos/full/54139

Kim Cozart

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Kim Cozart is not listed as a rule-out:

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3696dfca.html
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/29117/0/

Her stated height of five feet zero inches (at fifteen years of age, in 1977) is quite off Buckskin Girl's five feet six inches, but it's notable that both have brown eyes and reddish-brown hair. Cozart appears to have freckles and if you enlarge her photo on NamUs, she is wearing a Native American thunderbird necklace with beads.

I can definitely see Kim as a possibility

 

[Finders]

I have often thought that Kim Cozart was a strong possibility. I'm surprised she hasn't been submitted.

 

[Finders]

Anything new on her???

 

[Springrain]

Seems like I've missed a lot! Schoolwork, ugh. I'm back.

Kim Cozart has been brought up multiple times. She was brought up by user sam spade on June 6, 2015 on Kim's thread. (I'd say when she was brought up on this thread, but the search function isn't working for some reason.) Kim has DNA in NamUs.

I'm pretty sure she's been submitted already.

 

[LucyOso]

Has anyone looked at Sharon Smith? It seems she was a free spirit in many ways.



http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/smith_sharon.html

http://bangordailynews.com/2016/07/...tives-recall-bangor-woman-missing-since-1980/

 

[Alleykins]

Has anyone looked at Sharon Smith? It seems she was a free spirit in many ways.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/smith_sharon.html

http://bangordailynews.com/2016/07/...tives-recall-bangor-woman-missing-since-1980/

Sharon was way too short and had blue eyes. I recently found her height, weight and DOB, etc here:
http://www.bangormaine.gov/missingpersons

 

[LucyOso]

Ok...I am going to dive in here. Yes, the height is off. People can also be taller in death. The eye color is one thing. But, I want to point out some similarities and normally I am not one to say coincidence is correlation:

According to this article about Sharon Smith:

http://bangordailynews.com/2016/07/...tives-recall-bangor-woman-missing-since-1980/

Family reports: “She had run away so many times, she was that type of person,” and as this was a normal pattern…“She’ll be back next week.’” When she had the job at the Paramount Club when asked what her parents thought about Sharon Smith’s lifestyle, “They were just happy she had a job,” and “She was a fun-loving spirit.”

The daughter began to research her mom’s disappearance. And received call “from an anonymous man who told her Franklin “George” Gilks killed her mother and that “things got carried away, accidents happen.”

The case file also contains references to two people who told police that Gilks admitted to killing Sharon Smith while at a drinking party, where he was “quite intoxicated.” They reported that Gilks told them he broke Sharon Smith’s neck during an argument.


An anonymous letter was sent to Bangor police in May 1999, according to an affidavit filed with a search warrant for the Hermon property. The letter, which was postmarked from Ohio, implicates Gilks, Sharon Smith’s “on and off again” boyfriend, as a suspect and states, “you will find the body of Sharon Clark under the living room part of this old ugly home on the right hand side of the road where George Gilks used to live in Hermon.”

Right hand side of the road. Hermon. There is a Hermon Woods near Miami County in Troy. Ohio.

Even more: Here is Gilks’s obituary.

http://bangordailynews.com/2008/09/25/obituaries/crazy-george-gilks/

“Crazy George” Gilks, 58, died Aug. 14, 2006, after a brief illness. He was born July 12, 1949, in Bangor the son of Franklin Alexander and Kathleen Joy (Bates) Gilks. He was a life long motorcyclist and loved to be out on his bike riding.



To recap:
1. She came and went freely and was a free spirit. Her kids lived with their dad so she had little to tie her down. It took family a couple years for it to sink in she wasn’t coming back.
2. It was reported the on and off boyfriend “broke her neck”. That could be word-choice. Broken neck or strangled.
3. A letter was sent from Ohio stated she was on a property that Gilks used to live, this was taken at face value. But, there is also a possibility it was a something to be decoded or meant to read between the lines. Again, Hermon Woodlands is near Troy/Miami County (60 miles) and the right side of the road is a strange expression. A letter sent from Ohio.
4. Next, is the obituary of “Crazy George” who is an avid motorcyclist aka a biker. Think about the poncho. There’s the biker boyfriend and the outfit.
5. We also have suggestion of pollen on clothing coming from the Northeast. She was in Maine.
6. Daughter has very strawberry blonde, red hair.

Yes, the height is off and the eye color. Height is within a couple inches. But, even with eye color, it could be forgotten over the years. Ideas? Thoughts? This could be her.

CarlK...what are your thoughts?