Bittiness39
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The last couple of days (largely because of my chemo) I have had time to think solely about George. Filter out everything but his statements to LE, his behavior, his comments, etc...
If this thread is a duplicate in anyway I apologize and have absolute faith that our fabulous mods will put it where it needs to go.
1. June 16th: The date is described in pretty vivid detail about the last time GA saw Caylee and KC together. Last time he saw Caylee alive. There are plenty of questions about what he saw, if he saw them, their clothing etc...but he is the last known person to claim he saw KC with Caylee.
2. June 24th: We know that CA and LA were looking for KC by this time. According to GA, he saw KC at the home...confronted her about the gas cans...gets close enough to the car to smell death...doesn't look in the trunk. And yet...did he mention to CA at the time he saw her? Did he call CA and immediately and say he just saw KC at home, but no Caylee. If there was concern and I do believe there was (at least at the time from CA and LA about KC and her whereabouts) why didn't GA try to call the police, try to detain her...take her keys (being a sorority girl in college...that happened quite a bit...) push past her to get to the trunk: unless (1) He already knew Caylee was dead and had seen that Caylee was dead or (2) Knew something was really very wrong but didn't want to know. I find it hard to believe that an ex-cop of all people wouldn't want to know. So I am now going with (1).
3. Another thread on this page talks about internet usage on the 17th...both computers at the A's house being utilized in the afternoon hours and pings from KC's cell phone show she was nearby or at the house. If he was out the house as well...and we don't know this for a fact, but what was he doing there?
4. In court for the ZFG civil case he answers the question about Caylee very oddly...like the last time he heard Caylee's voice was on June 16th. Not that it was the last time he saw her. Maybe I am wrong about this...but I think I am correct about the wording. If I am correct then this makes me think he did see Caylee afterwards...just not a living Caylee.
5. GA is the only person we can say who publically considered suicide. By that I mean, police were called to find him. Whether or not he was sincere or would have gone through with it...I can't say...but he had written a note. LE was called. And they tracked him down. We can at least say for sure this has not happened with the other A's.
6. KC at one point during her incarceration requested that her dad be brought to jail to see her. She never asked for either Lee or CA in this way. At the time, I thought it was CA was too controlling and LA was trying to interrogate her and be too Columbo on her that she wanted to meet privately with her father. And yet, we have heard the tape of GA babbling as he goes to meet KC...and then after a certain wait she won't meet with him. I believe she sent a note requesting LE Allen to bring her dad to the jail. They did...and then she changes her mind.
7. Initially, LP's statements about GA were that he appeared or was in the dark. But then now the statements from LP that GA was lying or being incorrect about the 16th of June...because according to LP, LA told LP a completely different story.
Sorry if none of this makes any sense. If ya'll have links please provide them, as I am typing, I am lying on my side in bed...trying to sort out thoughts that genuinely seem to make sense to me.
I know there are very few people who like CA and for a good reason, her demeanor, her controlling personality...but what if it wasn't GA who was in the "dark" all of this time about what happened with Caylee...what if it was CA? The reason I say this, is her inadvertant comments that were on tape when she initially called 911 on KC...the whole, we'll take you to court to get Caylee or whatever (she would have had no idea that was recorded...she was being transferred). The fact that numerous co-workers mentioned CA's distress at not seeing or being able to talk to Caylee during a very critical time. The fact that in KC's original phone call home, LA says to KC after she cops an attitude saying she (KC) doesn't want her family in court, that she (KC) has put CA through a lot the past month (like after all you have put mom through...how dare you cop an attitude).
This is not to an anyway excuse CA...but I never thought I would say this...if any of the A's are involved...in knowing that Caylee was dead by KC's hands (or by accident...I only throw in accident because while I think her death was intentional, I was not there) it is GA and GA alone.
When I look at the videos of KC in jail...her mom quizzing her...writing down information, trying to get information...what I see is kind of alarming...I hope someone else is noticing...how silent GA is. At first, I was thinking it is because CA is this horrible controlling bad word...but even if that is still true...if you watch the tape from this perspective...his silence almost seems like an omission. He looks guilty...or at least to me...looks somewhat ashamed. In those tapes of her talking to her parents...CA genuinely seems to be probing for answers...but yet GA sits...again...he is the ex-cop...even if CA wears the pants...something just doesn't feel or read right to me. I could be 100% wrong.
I have always maintained...posting for nearly a year on two boards that I didn't think that any of the A's apart from KC were involved in the death of Caylee. I believe still that is true. However, I after watching the tapes, and reading more and more theories on this thread...that GA, did know that Caylee was dead...and did help KC after the fact. I don't believe at all that GA helped in any way to harm Caylee. I want to make that clear. But I think that he and he alone is an accessory after the death. While CA may be spinning yarns in all directions I think in this event, she is like the red herring you see far too often in mysteries and horrors...I don't think she knew what happened. I genuinely don't. But subsequent interviews with GA...him looking down, I assume it was again because CA wears the pants, but what if he knows more than he wants to tell...and CA doesn't know. JMO. But if anyone has appropriate links, please post them.
To the mods, thanks for what you do and for this board. If this thread is in the wrong place, please move it. :clap:
If this thread is a duplicate in anyway I apologize and have absolute faith that our fabulous mods will put it where it needs to go.
1. June 16th: The date is described in pretty vivid detail about the last time GA saw Caylee and KC together. Last time he saw Caylee alive. There are plenty of questions about what he saw, if he saw them, their clothing etc...but he is the last known person to claim he saw KC with Caylee.
2. June 24th: We know that CA and LA were looking for KC by this time. According to GA, he saw KC at the home...confronted her about the gas cans...gets close enough to the car to smell death...doesn't look in the trunk. And yet...did he mention to CA at the time he saw her? Did he call CA and immediately and say he just saw KC at home, but no Caylee. If there was concern and I do believe there was (at least at the time from CA and LA about KC and her whereabouts) why didn't GA try to call the police, try to detain her...take her keys (being a sorority girl in college...that happened quite a bit...) push past her to get to the trunk: unless (1) He already knew Caylee was dead and had seen that Caylee was dead or (2) Knew something was really very wrong but didn't want to know. I find it hard to believe that an ex-cop of all people wouldn't want to know. So I am now going with (1).
3. Another thread on this page talks about internet usage on the 17th...both computers at the A's house being utilized in the afternoon hours and pings from KC's cell phone show she was nearby or at the house. If he was out the house as well...and we don't know this for a fact, but what was he doing there?
4. In court for the ZFG civil case he answers the question about Caylee very oddly...like the last time he heard Caylee's voice was on June 16th. Not that it was the last time he saw her. Maybe I am wrong about this...but I think I am correct about the wording. If I am correct then this makes me think he did see Caylee afterwards...just not a living Caylee.
5. GA is the only person we can say who publically considered suicide. By that I mean, police were called to find him. Whether or not he was sincere or would have gone through with it...I can't say...but he had written a note. LE was called. And they tracked him down. We can at least say for sure this has not happened with the other A's.
6. KC at one point during her incarceration requested that her dad be brought to jail to see her. She never asked for either Lee or CA in this way. At the time, I thought it was CA was too controlling and LA was trying to interrogate her and be too Columbo on her that she wanted to meet privately with her father. And yet, we have heard the tape of GA babbling as he goes to meet KC...and then after a certain wait she won't meet with him. I believe she sent a note requesting LE Allen to bring her dad to the jail. They did...and then she changes her mind.
7. Initially, LP's statements about GA were that he appeared or was in the dark. But then now the statements from LP that GA was lying or being incorrect about the 16th of June...because according to LP, LA told LP a completely different story.
Sorry if none of this makes any sense. If ya'll have links please provide them, as I am typing, I am lying on my side in bed...trying to sort out thoughts that genuinely seem to make sense to me.
I know there are very few people who like CA and for a good reason, her demeanor, her controlling personality...but what if it wasn't GA who was in the "dark" all of this time about what happened with Caylee...what if it was CA? The reason I say this, is her inadvertant comments that were on tape when she initially called 911 on KC...the whole, we'll take you to court to get Caylee or whatever (she would have had no idea that was recorded...she was being transferred). The fact that numerous co-workers mentioned CA's distress at not seeing or being able to talk to Caylee during a very critical time. The fact that in KC's original phone call home, LA says to KC after she cops an attitude saying she (KC) doesn't want her family in court, that she (KC) has put CA through a lot the past month (like after all you have put mom through...how dare you cop an attitude).
This is not to an anyway excuse CA...but I never thought I would say this...if any of the A's are involved...in knowing that Caylee was dead by KC's hands (or by accident...I only throw in accident because while I think her death was intentional, I was not there) it is GA and GA alone.
When I look at the videos of KC in jail...her mom quizzing her...writing down information, trying to get information...what I see is kind of alarming...I hope someone else is noticing...how silent GA is. At first, I was thinking it is because CA is this horrible controlling bad word...but even if that is still true...if you watch the tape from this perspective...his silence almost seems like an omission. He looks guilty...or at least to me...looks somewhat ashamed. In those tapes of her talking to her parents...CA genuinely seems to be probing for answers...but yet GA sits...again...he is the ex-cop...even if CA wears the pants...something just doesn't feel or read right to me. I could be 100% wrong.
I have always maintained...posting for nearly a year on two boards that I didn't think that any of the A's apart from KC were involved in the death of Caylee. I believe still that is true. However, I after watching the tapes, and reading more and more theories on this thread...that GA, did know that Caylee was dead...and did help KC after the fact. I don't believe at all that GA helped in any way to harm Caylee. I want to make that clear. But I think that he and he alone is an accessory after the death. While CA may be spinning yarns in all directions I think in this event, she is like the red herring you see far too often in mysteries and horrors...I don't think she knew what happened. I genuinely don't. But subsequent interviews with GA...him looking down, I assume it was again because CA wears the pants, but what if he knows more than he wants to tell...and CA doesn't know. JMO. But if anyone has appropriate links, please post them.
To the mods, thanks for what you do and for this board. If this thread is in the wrong place, please move it. :clap:
