I think we need to remember that we know very little actual fact about last sightings of Kyron and by whom. Things that were stated by LE very early on, became "no comment" very soon afterward, so they may have not been able to verify what they had already said and I know they have not said anything recently about when and where he was last seen. JMO
It would be more significant, IMO, if this were the only thing LE was saying "No comment" about, but it isn't.
Yep, and that makes it even more strange as to why the teacher did not notify the parents. Seems if teacher thought he had an appt. and left with SM, it would stand out as odd that he toured the school with the group for part of the time. It would also be strange that the reply to the sub/volunteer would be maybe he went to get a drink or to the bathroom.
ETA: This info conflicts with teacher thinking he left with SM.
You're right.
Thanks for writing back, Calliope. I think I am not expressing myself clearly. I don't think that the Hormans have lost entitlement to their rights, nor do I think they should lose any of their rights.
I was simply asking here if anyone knows whether or not they have the choice to ask LE to leave their homes. I realize that, under most (all?) circumstances we have the choice of whether or not we want LE in our homes.
I got the impression that this was an LE decision, not a request by the family; and my impression could be way off of the mark, it could be all wrong.
It is completely up to the Horman's to allow a liason officer in their home or not. It is a SERVICE of Law Enforcement. While it may be up to LE to offer the service, that in no way means the family has no choice. IOW, the family is not being forced to have the officer in their home.
And of course, they could ask for the officer to leave at any time.
And here's what Carole Moulton said:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/details_emerge_about_the_day_k.html
Carol Moulton said the kids were supposed to report to their classes and be divided into small groups of a few students each. Each group was supposed to tour the science fair with a chaperone. Afterward, when they returned to their classes for roll call, Kyron wasn't there, she said.
This information from Terri's mom came on Saturday, June 5. It sounds as though she thinks that Kyron was with one of the small groups and then vanished... I wonder if there were other kids who didn't come in until 10 to join the class?
I think this information also came from Tanner.
Just to be objective if it was a regular sub who was there often and that sub had seen Kyron before from teaching his class it wouldnt be as implicative. If that teacher noticed he was there because SM was also with Kyron it could have been because they stood out.
I'm not sure I'm following you.....you think if the sub was regularly in the school, she may have noticed Kyron did not return to the class with the other students simply because she knew he belonged in the class from her prior work at the school? That is possible. I don't think it is probable, when considering the context, but as I said, I :think: there is a high proability that she was counting the kids and knew there should be six because that's how many she had with her on the tour. (I have to note this again, just to appease my own sense of accuracy) that the "sub" was not an actual substitute, we don't know her actual role in the class.
On the other hand, you seem to think that if the teacher (did you mean the sub?) might have noticed Kyron only because he was with his SM and they "stood out." I totally don't understand what you mean by this. It's been a rough day, and I guess my brain is shutting down!
NO, I don't believe this is protocal for a missing child case.
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Just an opinion
Hasn't the sheriff said it was protocol?
Thank you.
As I was quoted and questioned about, the day Kyron went missing, the first thing reported was "last seen by SM going into the school." That's the 1st statement of the last sighting. That's all I was trying to say........
You know, that was probably me. If you answered, I missed it! The thread is moving fast, and I had to be out of the house for a couple of hours, so I may have missed it.
I think that the quote you reference was indeed made the very first day Kyron went missing. I am sure when Kyron was reported missing, his SM did indeed say "I last saw him right there!" but that does not mean that she was the last person to see him. It is merely saying where SHE last saw him that day. It does not say that LE has determined that she was the last person to see Kyron.
For instance, if my son goes missing and LE asks me when and where did you last see him? I would say, I last saw him at 5pm at the mailbox in front of my house!
Back to Kyron: Investigation had just started at that time, over the days and many interviews conducted since then, is it so foolish to believe that there may be a person or more than one who saw him after SM exited the building?