Found Deceased OR - Melissa Marie Jubane, 32, Beaverton, 4 September 2024 *Arrest*

[GraceG]

I strongly disagree FWIW, he was not handling Melissa's corpse in the line of duty. I believe we will understand the rationale behind this charge as more info becomes public.

Hopefully this will clarify it - In Oregon under Section 166.085 - Abuse of corpse in the second degree(1) A person commits the crime of abuse of corpse in the second degree if, except as otherwise authorized by law, the person intentionally:(a) Abuses a corpse; or(b) Disinters, removes or carries away a corpse.(2) Abuse of corpse in the second degree is a Class C felony.(3) As used in this section and ORS 166.087, "abuse of corpse" includes treatment of a corpse by any person in a manner not recognized by generally accepted standards of the community or treatment by a professional person in a manner not generally accepted as suitable practice by other members of the profession, as may be defined by rules applicable to the profession.

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[azure]

Hopefully this will clarify it - In Oregon under Section 166.085 - Abuse of corpse in the second degree(1) A person commits the crime of abuse of corpse in the second degree if, except as otherwise authorized by law, the person intentionally:(a) Abuses a corpse; or(b) Disinters, removes or carries away a corpse.(2) Abuse of corpse in the second degree is a Class C felony.(3) As used in this section and ORS 166.087, "abuse of corpse" includes treatment of a corpse by any person in a manner not recognized by generally accepted standards of the community or treatment by a professional person in a manner not generally accepted as suitable practice by other members of the profession, as may be defined by rules applicable to the profession.

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Would that not only apply to a professional person in a professional setting though? I'm not convinced. We will see when more is released.

 

[freefallzzzz]

So, he was in the courtroom? Gah! Sorry for my conflicting news report a couple of posts ago that stated he was not, that his appearance was virtual.

He appeared in court via video on Monday
Today (Tuesday) he appeared in person

 

[slowpoke]

He appeared in court via video on Monday
Today (Tuesday) he appeared in person

Ah, thank you for clearing up the confusion.
Or maybe just MY confusion?

Also, clarifies it here:
“Schubert appeared virtually at the Washington County Jail courtroom on Monday, but on Tuesday, he was present along with his attorney at the Washington County Circuit Court.”

 

[Oregonmama]

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Did he cooperate with them and told where her body was to obtain the murder charge in the 2nd degree? If the police found her phone off and purse then it could be a possibility that those items were still in her apt when they did a welfare check? Did she plan on taking her garbage to the designated place in her building before grabbing her purse before heading to work but Bryce attacked her ? JMO

 

[Dotta]

"Authorities didn’t say where they found Ms. Jubane’s body
and they did not describe any injuries she may have suffered."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1833557758152454635

 

[LadyL]

Wayne Couzens - abused his position as a Police Officer
Lucy Letby - abused her position as a nurse

Life with no Possibility of Parole

Both in the UK

yes but abuse of a corpse is different and it usually just means they moved the corpse from the location the person died

He looks weird in the Court video IMO.
But maybe it is his shuffling in chains and moving awkwardly.

I was expecting the blond hair we saw on his social media

 

[Oregonmama]

yes but abuse of a corpse is different and it usually just means they moved the corpse from the location the person died



I was expecting the blond hair we saw on his social media

Media used his high school pics when he first got arrested. He looks like he should at 27 years old.

 

[LadyL]

Would that not only apply to a professional person in a professional setting though? I'm not convinced. We will see when more is released.

I don't think so. We see it all the time and I've never noticed that it's related to the suspect's profession.

 

[Dotta]

I was expecting the blond hair we saw on his social media

What really surprised me was his lawyer embracing him, patting him on the shoulder, generally treating him like a poor victim
I don't like such "touchy feely" behaviour in professionals.

Oh,
and screening the accused from camera.
Aaargh!

JMO

 

[Oregonmama]

What really surprised me was his lawyer embracing him, patting him on the shoulder, generally treating him like a poor victim
I don't like such "touchy feely" behaviour in professionals.

Oh,
and screening the accused from camera.
Aaargh!

JMO

That's what they do. We might hate them for it but PDs are there to work for their clients.

 

[Dotta]

That's what they do. We might hate them for it but PDs are there to work for their clients.

Yep.
But one shouldn't overdo things.
JMO

 

[Oregonmama]

Yep.
But one shouldn't overdo things.
JMO

I know a lot of PDs from my friend circle and this is their passion to give humane and fair representation. It's genuine on their part. It's their job.

 

[Charlot123]

Thanks for the info. I would've guessed they abused those positions while actually on the job, but perhaps I'm wrong. Appreciate learning something new.

jmo

I agree with you. Other explanations made me confused. i think in this case, he is accused of intentionally abducting and unintentionally killing Melissa and intentionally hiding her body. That he was a nurse is not relevant to the accusation itself.

 

[Deepinthought52]

Looks like his PD wanted to get his client's not guilty plea out in the public domain which is a common tactic to tone down the public's view of the sp. It helps in regards to any potential juror the defense might want to have to serve on the jury. JMO

Won’t work Jmo

 

[Oregonmama]

Won’t work Jmo

Unfortunately, the accused is entitled to a jury that's not prejudiced

 

[georgiajean]

I don't think so. We see it all the time and I've never noticed that it's related to the suspect's profession.

I agree. My interpretation is that someone who is in a profession that needs to move corpses (EMT, Police, Nurse, Doctor, etc) can't be charged with abuse of a corpse while at work unless others in the profession would consider what they did to be outside the line of duty. That would save someone upset about how a body was handled from charging frivolous lawsuits against a nurse or EMT or coroner.
All IMOO

 

[LadyL]

What really surprised me was his lawyer embracing him, patting him on the shoulder, generally treating him like a poor victim
I don't like such "touchy feely" behaviour in professionals.

Oh,
and screening the accused from camera.
Aaargh!

JMO

yeah that annoyed me too
creepy all around

 

[tealrose]

It's going to be interesting to learn how things played out, in regard to what sort of evidence law enforcement has... he seems to have more family support and a more-engaged PD than I would anticipate if say, she'd been found in his apartment, or he'd confessed and told them where to find her.

This sort of support suggests, imo, that he's got at least enough plausible deniability for his family and friends to give him the benefit of the doubt. I sure hope LE has (or develops) something more solid than circumstantial evidence.

 

[LAborn]

"he seems to have more family support and a more-engaged PD than I would anticipate if say, she'd been found in his apartment, or he'd confessed and told them where to find her.

This sort of support suggests, imo, that he's got at least enough plausible deniability for his family and friends to give him the benefit of the doubt. I sure hope LE has (or develops) something more solid than circumstantial evidence."

Or they are in disbelief. I interpret the quick arrest as PD has an airtight case. No bail set. What are you seeing that I'm missing?