Agreed. I think it will turn out he was raised in an ultra-religious household as well.I don't think your wrong. The trial will open up a Pandora's box. JMO
Agreed. I think it will turn out he was raised in an ultra-religious household as well.I don't think your wrong. The trial will open up a Pandora's box. JMO
I personally do not think religion/ how he was raised has anything to do this case. I do believe this crime was targeted and he was fulfilling a need sexually because he was rejected. My Pandora box meant how he might have treated his past significant others JMOAgreed. I think it will turn out he was raised in an ultra-religious household as well.
I posted to this elsewhere, but our police are getting better about this. I think just like things have changed with responses to active shooters (i.e., not waiting outside the school but barging in and confronting), our police realizes that when someone known to be responsive and responsible doesn't show up, either from a hike or drive to work or whatever, swift action can save their lives. In this case, I think the reason Bryce was caught is because our police acted, as they should, very quickly. Wouldn't it be wonderful if this response was the norm?I agree; it's not the norm that someone missing work would get a welfare check with an apartment entry so quickly. It surprised me they were even willing to welfare check at all so quickly, based on no-call, no-show at work.
(And while I'm glad she was checked on so quickly, I really hope that decision was based on facts law enforcement received during the report, and not demographics.)
I'm perplexed why info is sealed. It's unusual, in my observation.Any ideas as to why the judge would agree to seal the affidavit for the search warrant and summary of evidence? Since it is sealed, does that typically mean it would remain sealed until an actual trial or is it likely it would be unsealed before then?
Do we know if a grand jury has returned an indictment yet? If not, how soon might that be? Could waiting on that be the reason the judge sealed the arrest affidavit and evidence list?
No worries. I didn't mean to assume you thought religion had any play in this. This is solely my hunch, based on his photos. I'm not blaming religion as much as how some folks with ultra-religious upbringings are taught to keep their emotions in check, pray the sin away, and the parents would ignore alarming details. I'm guessing this will come out.I personally do not think religion/ how he was raised has anything to do this case. I do believe this crime was targeted and he was fulfilling a need sexually because he was rejected. My Pandora box meant how he might have treated his past significant others JMO
IMO, the grand jury needs to reach an indictment first before you can plea. The judge even said she couldn't accept his not guilty plea yet. The PC needs to be kept confidential until the GJ meets. I suspect there might be more charges after the GJ meets. They meet on Weds and Thursdays in Washington County. JMOI'm perplexed why info is sealed. It's unusual, in my observation.
(And, it's not unheard of, I realize that, to seal documents.)
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I'm also expecting a religious background, and I am not casting dispersion on that or making assumptions other than I'm expecting a close family, and only mention it because it seemed people were jumping on the storyline of him being "failure to launch" type of perp, without direction, neglected, etc., when I think his background is the opposite.No worries. I didn't mean to assume you thought religion had any play in this. This is solely my hunch, based on his photos. I'm not blaming religion as much as how some folks with ultra-religious upbringings are taught to keep their emotions in check, pray the sin away, and the parents would ignore alarming details. I'm guessing this will come out.
Some new details.... They found the victim 3am Saturday after they arrested Bryce Friday night. Perhaps he told them where he hid her. JMO
Melissa Jubane and Bryce Schubert: What we know about Oregon nurse’s death, neighbor accused of killing her
A more detailed picture of what allegedly happened is becoming clearer, days after Beaverton police accused Melissa Jubane’s neighbor of murdering her.www.oregonlive.com
I disagree. I see it as a guy who got rejected after months of trying to score a date with her and it pissed him off. Wouldn't be the first case where this has happened. Ultra conservative or just a conservative family home and certain haircuts doesn't make a human attack a woman for whatever his reasons he had. Bryce made a choice all by himself and committed a crime . JMOI'm also expecting a religious background, and I am not casting dispersion on that or making assumptions other than I'm expecting a close family, and only mention it because it seemed people were jumping on the storyline of him being "failure to launch" type of perp, without direction, neglected, etc., when I think his background is the opposite.
I'm speculating and sharing my hunch at this point.
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My point it, he doesn't seem like a "failure to launch" type. He graduated college and has a career. (I don't defend his actions, of course, and consider him a predator.)I disagree. I see it as a guy who got rejected after months of trying to score a date with her and it pissed him off. Wouldn't be the first case where this has happened. Ultra conservative or just a conservative family home and certain haircuts doesn't make a human attack a woman for whatever his reasons he had. Bryce made a choice all by himself and committed a crime . JMO
Failure to launch can effect anyone. JMOMy point it, he doesn't seem like a "failure to launch" type. He graduated college and has a career. (I don't defend his actions, of course, and consider him a predator.)
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She was with her boyfriend for 10 years before marrying. Most guys (even socially stunted ones) once they learn a woman is "taken"--with a boyfriend or engaged to be married won't hold out hope for reciprocation. A hard "no" usually is enough. <modsnip>I disagree. I see it as a guy who got rejected after months of trying to score a date with her and it pissed him off. Wouldn't be the first case where this has happened. Ultra conservative or just a conservative family home and certain haircuts doesn't make a human attack a woman for whatever his reasons he had. Bryce made a choice all by himself and committed a crime . JMO
Great post !She was with her boyfriend for 10 years before marrying. Most guys (even socially stunted ones) once they learn a woman is "taken"--with a boyfriend or engaged to be married won't hold out hope for reciprocation. A hard "no" usually is enough. <modsnip>
Are you leaning on that Melissa was just at the wrong place at the right time or he targeted her specifically ? JMOShe was with her boyfriend for 10 years before marrying. Most guys (even socially stunted ones) once they learn a woman is "taken"--with a boyfriend or engaged to be married won't hold out hope for reciprocation. A hard "no" usually is enough.<modsnip>
He just committed his first crime and that would allow anyone in that situation to act strangely. JMOHis acting "strangely" recently is worrying.
Has he got some MH issues?
Something might have triggered him that morning.
As they lived practically "face to face", maybe some neighbours' feud/problems?
Some arguments?
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He just committed his first crime and that would allow anyone in that situation to act strangely. JMO
I thought the same as you did when I first heard he had been acting strangely. I found it in MSM but it's not clear if it was the week before the murder, or every since her disappearance.As I understand
he was behaving weirdly recently - meaning BEFORE the crime.
Or am I mistaken?
Not much info is out there.