OR - Militia members occupy federal building in Oregon after protest #3

[bluesneakers]

[video=youtube;JGJVa3aJoSo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGJVa3aJoSo[/video]

Groundbreaking journalism right there.

I'm so glad I watched because it reminded me I wanted to find that term I think of when I think of Ammon Bundy - the thing where you don't know as much as you think you do?

Dunning–Kruger effect

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which relatively unskilled persons suffer illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability to be much higher than it really is. Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their own ineptitude and evaluate their own ability accurately.

 

[Dr. Know?]

[video=twitter;700436737323978752]https://twitter.com/LesZaitz/status/700436737323978752[/video]

 

[Dr. Know?]

[video=twitter;700436980430016512]https://twitter.com/LesZaitz/status/700436980430016512[/video]

 

[Donjeta]

What is Delemus a veteran of? If he was in the Service, what did he do?

A retired Marine, according to http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/15/jerry-delemus-former-marine-plans-draw-muhammad-co/

 

[bluesneakers]

What is Delemus a veteran of? If he was in the Service, what did he do?

"Former Marine" is all I've been able to find so far. He's 61 so probably too old for Iraq, Afghanistan, or Kuwait. I'm going to keep searching though.

 

[bluesneakers]

He is married to State Rep. Susan DeLemus.

Jerry DeLemus, who heads a large chapter of the 9/12 group founded by Glenn Beck, attempted in 2013 to turn the Tea Party organization into a militia that might be used to overthrow the state government.

Jerry DeLemus is also quoted in the 2011 book, “The Tea Party and the Remaking of Republican Conservatism,” which highlighted his use of “vivid martial imagery” to strike fear of angry Tea Partiers into the heart of GOP elected officials.

Jerry and Susan DeLemus took part in a CNN panel in July, when they helped Trump weather one of his campaign’s early controversies after the real estate tycoon and reality TV star insulted Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) military service record as a former prisoner of war.

Her husband cited his own military service record to echo Trump’s insult almost word for word.

“As a Marine … we like guys who don’t get captured, too,” Jerry DeLemus said. “I don’t think that he meant that as an insult to POWs or the military at all.”

Hmmm.


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/tru...ything-less-than-political-violence-is-lying/

 

[Dr. Know?]

Delemus says in his video above that he's a former Sergeant in the United States Marine Corps.

 

[LinasK]

With holding evidence. :thinking:

Not sure how you do that, but I'm taking absolutely discussed to mean he was all talked out, LOL!!!

 

[bluesneakers]

Jerry DeLemus for Sheriff Strafford County NH

Former Sergeant in the United States Marine Corps. Founder of the Rochester 912 Project in Rochester New Hampshire in 2009. Former Chairman of the Granite States Patriots Liberty PAC and a strong supporter of our State and National Constitutions. NRA firearms instructor.

Vague. And former, not retired. What happened?

 

[bluesneakers]

Better.

[video=twitter;700145616899280896]https://twitter.com/LesZaitz/status/700145616899280896[/video]

The photo is from FB but I can't link it for some reason.

Malheur National Wildlife Refuge
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Great horned owls and chicks in the fire tower in 2015 courtesy: Candace Larson, Portland Audubon

https://www.facebook.com/malheurrefuge/photos/pcb.1707128089503897/1707128552837184/?type=1&theater

 

[Dr. Know?]

Has the 51 page Nevada indictment for Cliven been posted? It is linked in an article posted yesterday, I think. Well, here it is again, if so.

http://res.cloudinary.com/bdy4ger4/image/upload/v1455767370/Bundy_Cliven_et_al_Indictment_ooenru.pdf

 

[Fairy1]

He is married to State Rep. Susan DeLemus.








Hmmm.


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/tru...ything-less-than-political-violence-is-lying/

Well, as disturbing as these folks are, I take some comfort in knowing Nevada isn't the only state with looney toons legislators.

 

[Cricket99]

I thought Cheetos and gummy dicks have enough preservatives in them that they don't rot.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...ues-for-666-billion-citing-works-of-the-devil



The comments are wondering why she stopped at billions and someone suggests she probably didn't know what's bigger than billion.[video=twitter;700372878617739264]https://twitter.com/SwidSeor/status/700372878617739264[/video]

Wow, clear over there?

 

[Cricket99]

Kyle Iboshi KGWTV recent Ammon statement released through attorney regarding sacred indian stuff.

https://www.facebook.com/KyleIboshiKGWTV/videos/996409773773007/

I can't stomach listening to some of this stuff again - I wish someone would shut him up. Why is he allowed to defend himself outside of a court of law? On another note THANK YOU ALL FOR MAKING ME LAUGH. i love this entertaining thread. :jumping:

 

[LinasK]

Not sure how you do that, but I'm taking absolutely discussed to mean he was all talked out, LOL!!!

Hubby suggested maybe they think discussed is the past tense of disgust?? LOL!:scared::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious::hilarious:

 

[Dr. Know?]

I debated over posting this when I read it earlier today but it is via MSM.

[video=twitter;700429556281245697]https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/700429556281245697[/video]

 

[bluesneakers]

Searching for 30 year minimum sentences I found this:

18 USC § 924(c)(1)(B)(ii);
§ 2K2.4
Use of Firearm, Armor-Piercing Ammunition, or Explosive During or in Relation to Certain Crimes

http://www.ussc.gov/guidelines-manual/2011/2011-2k24

1st offense, firearm is a machinegun or destructive device or the firearm is equipped with a silencer or muffler
30 years, added to sentence for underlying crime
http://famm.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Chart-All-Fed-MMs-NW.pdf

 

[Dr. Know?]

Grant County sheriff viewed as 'security leak' as state seeks investigation

The Oregon Department of Public Safety Standards and Training on Thursday released eight separate complaints, including ones from a 911 manager and the John Day police chief, alleging misconduct by Palmer. The complaints, filed the past two weeks, all raise alarm about Palmer's association with leaders of the refuge occupation.

The state agency, which licenses police officers, has asked the state Department of Justice to investigate. The licensing agency notified Palmer by letter dated Feb. 11 about its intentions, warning that if violations of police standards are found, he could face revocation of his police certification.

Document: Letter requesting state investigation

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/grant_county_sheriff_viewed_as.html

links to docs

 

[bluesneakers]

Grant County sheriff viewed as 'security leak' as state seeks investigation



Document: Letter requesting state investigation

http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/02/grant_county_sheriff_viewed_as.html

links to docs

Bundy and his friends insist the county sheriff is the highest law in the land. I bet Palmer loved receiving their praise and encouragement.

Gray submitted radio dispatch logs to show that on Jan. 12 Palmer spent 3 ½ hours with militia leaders in John Day. Three days later, Gray said, Palmer met at his office in Canyon City with two men believed to be involved in the occupation and a woman Gray identified as Shawna Cox. She now is facing a federal charge for her role in the occupation.

One of the other militants who met with Palmer, Jon Ritzheimer of Arizona, said he and Payne autographed Palmer's pocket copy of the Constitution at the sheriff's request.

Sucker.

 

[Dr. Know?]

John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC 13h13 hours ago Portland, OR
.@OPB has obtained an audio recording of the members of COWS - including @VoteFiore - talking about their plans to support occupiers. 1/2

John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC 13h13 hours ago Portland, OR
that story about COWS involvement in occupation will be published on Monday morning on @OPB and aired with @OPBmorning 2/2

John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC 13h13 hours ago Portland, OR
people are asking me what COWS is - coalition of western states - an org started at the same time as the April 2014 Bundy armed standoff

@JohnLGC is there anything incriminating or revelatory about this audio?

John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC 12h12 hours ago Portland, OR
John Sepulvado Retweeted joemo
revelatory for sure.

John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC 12h12 hours ago
in audio obtained by @OPB - OR GOP Rep Dallas Heard said @MikeMcLaneOR was aware he visited the refuge and "supports what I'm doing."

John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC 12h12 hours ago
i'mma stop tweeting about the audio about the refuge. but holy smokes the stuff being said...

https://twitter.com/JohnLGC/with_replies

Must be good stuff.