OR OR - Union Co, Finley Creek Jane Doe, UnsFem 14-25, UP11902, preg, on wooded hillside, Aug'78

[theshadow45]

Bumping for Finley Creek Jane Doe.

 

[mommanan]

Keith Glenn Hescock Jr was born in 1960 in that area. He kidnapped a 14-year old girl from my area in Idaho in 2002. He is also suspected on the kidnapping and disappearance of Amber Hoopes, also from Idaho Falls, Idaho. Amber Hoopes body has not been found.

Hescock Jr died by suicide during a shootout with police; he was suspected of other disappearances, but no definitive link could be made to other cases.

The Hescock family was from Summerville, OR, which is just 10 miles from where the Finley Creek Jane Doe was located. Keith Hescock Jr would've been 18 years old in 1978.

Sadly, maybe this young lady was Hescock's first victim. The proximity is too close to be completely ignored.

 

[JasonFutchLakeCityFL]

Keith Glenn Hescock Jr was born in 1960 in that area. He kidnapped a 14-year old girl from my area in Idaho in 2002. He is also suspected on the kidnapping and disappearance of Amber Hoopes, also from Idaho Falls, Idaho. Amber Hoopes body has not been found.

Hescock Jr died by suicide during a shootout with police; he was suspected of other disappearances, but no definitive link could be made to other cases.

The Hescock family was from Summerville, OR, which is just 10 miles from where the Finley Creek Jane Doe was located. Keith Hescock Jr would've been 18 years old in 1978.

Sadly, maybe this young lady was Hescock's first victim. The proximity is too close to be completely ignored.

Hey there! I’m leading an effort along with a few other people to get this woman identified. I submitted this info to Dr. Vance and she is forwarding it over to the criminal division for this case. Hopefully this is something that will be looked at!

 

[JasonFutchLakeCityFL]

A couple of weeks ago, Mel Jedderberg of Union County spoke to former DA Dale Mammen regarding this case. DA Mammen was the DA for Union County in 1978 when this Jane Doe was found. He was also on the scene the day her remains were found. Mel is helping me with research on this case "from the ground" as she has been researching the case herself for a while.

The following is based on Mel's conversation with DA Dale Mammen on 1/18/2020, at 10:30am...Denny's Restaurant, La Grande, Oregon. Dale is accompanied by his wife Ginny Mammen.

When Mel met DA Mammen, she gave him a highlight of the case, which included information that was available online, including NamUs and Doe Network. When Mel mentioned OSP Detective Dock Baker, one of the first officers on the scene, Mammen stated that Det. Baker was a close family friend of his--to the point that Mammen is responsible for his estate when he passes away (Dock Baker is 94 years old and has stated that he is not interested in being interviewed for this project). With that said, a discussion was had about re-approaching Det. Baker for an interview, though the request would come from DA Mammen. Mammen agreed to reach out.

Mel continued discussing the basics with Mammen, which included our requests for information and discussions with the Oregon State Medical Examiner's Office and Dr. Nici Vance. When she told Mammen that Dr. Vance informed me that the remains had been cremated and ultimately LOST, Mammen couldn't believe it. He does not subscribe to there being NO remains or that the remains were destroyed because, contrary to Dr. Vance's report, he said that cremation was not the process then. (IMO that could be true considering that there are a number of remains that are still around from the 1970s in Oregon, including the formerly unidentified Annie Doe.) A previous conversation Mel had with a retired OSP trooper, initials B.R., indicated that there would have been no way her body was cremated nor were they just destroyed and misplaced.

Mel also discussed the funeral home situation. A little background: for those who read the newspaper articles, the body was autopsied on at the Coffey Funeral Home (now known as Loveland Funeral Home) in La Grande. Mel previously reached out to the funeral home and was told they were unaware of the case. However, a new Funeral Director has been brought in to help the overworked current F.D. and Mammen suggested to Mel to reach out to the new F.D., who wants to make connections with the community, and suggested a personal visit may be helpful.

Later on, while perusing the newspaper clippings, Mammen's memory is heightened and remembers quite a few details; however he didn't remember the radio cord being found. But if OSP still had possession of the cord (which is apparently lost), it could be checked for DNA.

Mel showed Mammen a U.S. Forestry Map which shows the location of where the FCJD was located. Mammen confirmed that he had been at the site and was able to rule out that the remains were found on the cow camp side of the road, but were found on the Finley Creek side. The Doe Network and NamUs' coordinates as to where the body was found are accurate to what Mammen told Mel. The remains were found a short hike off the road, there was enough of a trail to walk down and around past the creek but not through it and that the remains were found close to-maybe even under-a log or tree. Mammen believes that the hunters that found the FCJD, Lee Parr and Jack Swiger, turned off the road south of the cow camp without ever actually passing it to get to the FCJD discovery site. He recalled that parking was not an issue and that it wasn't a single lane road. He also confirmed the presence of a logging trail which is a state landmark. Mammen felt that the area was not closed in and was fairly spacious but isolated. Mel is pretty confident that she has been close, or spot on, to the the discovery site.

Mammen began to duscuss that the theory of Green River Killer or Bundy could have been involved, but cannot be confirmed. The reason for this is that GRK didn't kill his first victim until 1982. Bundy is possible because of the time span that he was in Washington State. His route to Utah would have brought him through La Grande back then. Mammen also recalled that a thorough check of missing persons in the area between Oregon and Washington yielded no clues.

Mammen believes that the location of the remains were placed there at random and not intentional. Believes that this was someone from way out of the area and that the person who dumped her was not familiar with the area. He is also satisfied that the homicide occurred somewhere else and not at the Cow Camp. DA Mammen and his wife have agreed to visit the crime scene with Mel in the spring when the snow melts so he can pinpoint where the remains were found.

Mel, at one point, suggested that Lance Voss, the suspected Lewis and Clark Valley Serial Killer and Harry Hantman may have had something to do with this. Mammen believes Mel is on to something regarding Hantman.

Mammen also discussed with Mel that Dock Baker has kept a daily diary for the last 60+ years of his life. Mammen has taken down some dates that he will circle back and approach Dock about specifically to see if he has anything of note in his journals about the case.

Various theories were kicked around with DA Mammen about the case, which included more thoughts on Bundy and Ridgway. Also discussed is if the hunters were ruled out. They were checked and cleared.

One of the biggest things Mammen stressed was that locating the evidence is "Top Priority" in this case. He believes there is testable evidence in this case if it can be located. According to Dr. Vance in a previous exchange with me, she stated the evidence, the cremains, and a good bit of the file is missing. Mel and I are on a "mission" to locate both, so we have been grilling the OSP and also have been checking cemetery records in case she may have been interred (on a side note, we recovered the grave of a former Jane Doe victim of the Mollala Forest Killer).

We are expecting more communication with DA Mammen in the future. Hopefully this helps!

 

[sunnynz]

A couple of weeks ago, Mel Jedderberg of Union County spoke to former DA Dale Mammen regarding this case. DA Mammen was the DA for Union County in 1978 when this Jane Doe was found. He was also on the scene the day her remains were found. Mel is helping me with research on this case "from the ground" as she has been researching the case herself for a while.

The following is based on Mel's conversation with DA Dale Mammen on 1/18/2020, at 10:30am...Denny's Restaurant, La Grande, Oregon. Dale is accompanied by his wife Ginny Mammen.

When Mel met DA Mammen, she gave him a highlight of the case, which included information that was available online, including NamUs and Doe Network. When Mel mentioned OSP Detective Dock Baker, one of the first officers on the scene, Mammen stated that Det. Baker was a close family friend of his--to the point that Mammen is responsible for his estate when he passes away (Dock Baker is 94 years old and has stated that he is not interested in being interviewed for this project). With that said, a discussion was had about re-approaching Det. Baker for an interview, though the request would come from DA Mammen. Mammen agreed to reach out.

Mel continued discussing the basics with Mammen, which included our requests for information and discussions with the Oregon State Medical Examiner's Office and Dr. Nici Vance. When she told Mammen that Dr. Vance informed me that the remains had been cremated and ultimately LOST, Mammen couldn't believe it. He does not subscribe to there being NO remains or that the remains were destroyed because, contrary to Dr. Vance's report, he said that cremation was not the process then. (IMO that could be true considering that there are a number of remains that are still around from the 1970s in Oregon, including the formerly unidentified Annie Doe.) A previous conversation Mel had with a retired OSP trooper, initials B.R., indicated that there would have been no way her body was cremated nor were they just destroyed and misplaced.

Mel also discussed the funeral home situation. A little background: for those who read the newspaper articles, the body was autopsied on at the Coffey Funeral Home (now known as Loveland Funeral Home) in La Grande. Mel previously reached out to the funeral home and was told they were unaware of the case. However, a new Funeral Director has been brought in to help the overworked current F.D. and Mammen suggested to Mel to reach out to the new F.D., who wants to make connections with the community, and suggested a personal visit may be helpful.

Later on, while perusing the newspaper clippings, Mammen's memory is heightened and remembers quite a few details; however he didn't remember the radio cord being found. But if OSP still had possession of the cord (which is apparently lost), it could be checked for DNA.

Mel showed Mammen a U.S. Forestry Map which shows the location of where the FCJD was located. Mammen confirmed that he had been at the site and was able to rule out that the remains were found on the cow camp side of the road, but were found on the Finley Creek side. The Doe Network and NamUs' coordinates as to where the body was found are accurate to what Mammen told Mel. The remains were found a short hike off the road, there was enough of a trail to walk down and around past the creek but not through it and that the remains were found close to-maybe even under-a log or tree. Mammen believes that the hunters that found the FCJD, Lee Parr and Jack Swiger, turned off the road south of the cow camp without ever actually passing it to get to the FCJD discovery site. He recalled that parking was not an issue and that it wasn't a single lane road. He also confirmed the presence of a logging trail which is a state landmark. Mammen felt that the area was not closed in and was fairly spacious but isolated. Mel is pretty confident that she has been close, or spot on, to the the discovery site.

Mammen began to duscuss that the theory of Green River Killer or Bundy could have been involved, but cannot be confirmed. The reason for this is that GRK didn't kill his first victim until 1982. Bundy is possible because of the time span that he was in Washington State. His route to Utah would have brought him through La Grande back then. Mammen also recalled that a thorough check of missing persons in the area between Oregon and Washington yielded no clues.

Mammen believes that the location of the remains were placed there at random and not intentional. Believes that this was someone from way out of the area and that the person who dumped her was not familiar with the area. He is also satisfied that the homicide occurred somewhere else and not at the Cow Camp. DA Mammen and his wife have agreed to visit the crime scene with Mel in the spring when the snow melts so he can pinpoint where the remains were found.

Mel, at one point, suggested that Lance Voss, the suspected Lewis and Clark Valley Serial Killer and Harry Hantman may have had something to do with this. Mammen believes Mel is on to something regarding Hantman.

Mammen also discussed with Mel that Dock Baker has kept a daily diary for the last 60+ years of his life. Mammen has taken down some dates that he will circle back and approach Dock about specifically to see if he has anything of note in his journals about the case.

Various theories were kicked around with DA Mammen about the case, which included more thoughts on Bundy and Ridgway. Also discussed is if the hunters were ruled out. They were checked and cleared.

One of the biggest things Mammen stressed was that locating the evidence is "Top Priority" in this case. He believes there is testable evidence in this case if it can be located. According to Dr. Vance in a previous exchange with me, she stated the evidence, the cremains, and a good bit of the file is missing. Mel and I are on a "mission" to locate both, so we have been grilling the OSP and also have been checking cemetery records in case she may have been interred (on a side note, we recovered the grave of a former Jane Doe victim of the Mollala Forest Killer).

We are expecting more communication with DA Mammen in the future. Hopefully this helps!

Thank you for the update. Bless you for putting time and effort into this on the ground.

 

[anonymess]

incredible work, jason and mel!! and a real testament to the importance of building connections

 

[JasonFutchLakeCityFL]

Thanks to you both and everyone who has been paying attention! We are currently working out a way where we can get access to her case file despite the Oregon Public Records law preventing us from doing this. We got one or two more tactics left before we do something drastic lol.

 

[Bit of hope]

A couple of weeks ago, Mel Jedderberg of Union County spoke to former DA Dale Mammen regarding this case. DA Mammen was the DA for Union County in 1978 when this Jane Doe was found. He was also on the scene the day her remains were found. Mel is helping me with research on this case "from the ground" as she has been researching the case herself for a while.

The following is based on Mel's conversation with DA Dale Mammen on 1/18/2020, at 10:30am...Denny's Restaurant, La Grande, Oregon. Dale is accompanied by his wife Ginny Mammen.

When Mel met DA Mammen, she gave him a highlight of the case, which included information that was available online, including NamUs and Doe Network. When Mel mentioned OSP Detective Dock Baker, one of the first officers on the scene, Mammen stated that Det. Baker was a close family friend of his--to the point that Mammen is responsible for his estate when he passes away (Dock Baker is 94 years old and has stated that he is not interested in being interviewed for this project). With that said, a discussion was had about re-approaching Det. Baker for an interview, though the request would come from DA Mammen. Mammen agreed to reach out.

Mel continued discussing the basics with Mammen, which included our requests for information and discussions with the Oregon State Medical Examiner's Office and Dr. Nici Vance. When she told Mammen that Dr. Vance informed me that the remains had been cremated and ultimately LOST, Mammen couldn't believe it. He does not subscribe to there being NO remains or that the remains were destroyed because, contrary to Dr. Vance's report, he said that cremation was not the process then. (IMO that could be true considering that there are a number of remains that are still around from the 1970s in Oregon, including the formerly unidentified Annie Doe.) A previous conversation Mel had with a retired OSP trooper, initials B.R., indicated that there would have been no way her body was cremated nor were they just destroyed and misplaced.

Mel also discussed the funeral home situation. A little background: for those who read the newspaper articles, the body was autopsied on at the Coffey Funeral Home (now known as Loveland Funeral Home) in La Grande. Mel previously reached out to the funeral home and was told they were unaware of the case. However, a new Funeral Director has been brought in to help the overworked current F.D. and Mammen suggested to Mel to reach out to the new F.D., who wants to make connections with the community, and suggested a personal visit may be helpful.

Later on, while perusing the newspaper clippings, Mammen's memory is heightened and remembers quite a few details; however he didn't remember the radio cord being found. But if OSP still had possession of the cord (which is apparently lost), it could be checked for DNA.

Mel showed Mammen a U.S. Forestry Map which shows the location of where the FCJD was located. Mammen confirmed that he had been at the site and was able to rule out that the remains were found on the cow camp side of the road, but were found on the Finley Creek side. The Doe Network and NamUs' coordinates as to where the body was found are accurate to what Mammen told Mel. The remains were found a short hike off the road, there was enough of a trail to walk down and around past the creek but not through it and that the remains were found close to-maybe even under-a log or tree. Mammen believes that the hunters that found the FCJD, Lee Parr and Jack Swiger, turned off the road south of the cow camp without ever actually passing it to get to the FCJD discovery site. He recalled that parking was not an issue and that it wasn't a single lane road. He also confirmed the presence of a logging trail which is a state landmark. Mammen felt that the area was not closed in and was fairly spacious but isolated. Mel is pretty confident that she has been close, or spot on, to the the discovery site.

Mammen began to duscuss that the theory of Green River Killer or Bundy could have been involved, but cannot be confirmed. The reason for this is that GRK didn't kill his first victim until 1982. Bundy is possible because of the time span that he was in Washington State. His route to Utah would have brought him through La Grande back then. Mammen also recalled that a thorough check of missing persons in the area between Oregon and Washington yielded no clues.

Mammen believes that the location of the remains were placed there at random and not intentional. Believes that this was someone from way out of the area and that the person who dumped her was not familiar with the area. He is also satisfied that the homicide occurred somewhere else and not at the Cow Camp. DA Mammen and his wife have agreed to visit the crime scene with Mel in the spring when the snow melts so he can pinpoint where the remains were found.

Mel, at one point, suggested that Lance Voss, the suspected Lewis and Clark Valley Serial Killer and Harry Hantman may have had something to do with this. Mammen believes Mel is on to something regarding Hantman.

Mammen also discussed with Mel that Dock Baker has kept a daily diary for the last 60+ years of his life. Mammen has taken down some dates that he will circle back and approach Dock about specifically to see if he has anything of note in his journals about the case.

Various theories were kicked around with DA Mammen about the case, which included more thoughts on Bundy and Ridgway. Also discussed is if the hunters were ruled out. They were checked and cleared.

One of the biggest things Mammen stressed was that locating the evidence is "Top Priority" in this case. He believes there is testable evidence in this case if it can be located. According to Dr. Vance in a previous exchange with me, she stated the evidence, the cremains, and a good bit of the file is missing. Mel and I are on a "mission" to locate both, so we have been grilling the OSP and also have been checking cemetery records in case she may have been interred (on a side note, we recovered the grave of a former Jane Doe victim of the Mollala Forest Killer).

We are expecting more communication with DA Mammen in the future. Hopefully this helps!

Wow! What a wonderful birthday present. Good to see people and you are still not letting go! X

 

[JasonFutchLakeCityFL]

Well, we just got some bad news. At 5PM MT Time (4PM La Grande time) February 7th, Det. Dock Baker passed away. He was literally the last of the original detectives to have worked on this case. He was 95 years old. DA Dale Mammen is going to assist us from here. We were set to interview Det. Baker within the next few weeks. Horrible blow, but from my understanding, Det. Baker kept a diary that will be looked through by DA Mammen, who volunteered to do this for us so we know what he wrote in his journal during this investigation. Perhaps Det. Baker will have a word or two to share.

RIP Det. Dock Baker
Oregon State Police (Ret.)
Born: 1926 EOW: February 7th, 2020
Thank you sir, we'll hold the line from here...

 

[JasonFutchLakeCityFL]

Photos of Dock Baker from 2018 (OSP, Facebook)

 

[JasonFutchLakeCityFL]

UPDATE!!!

After a two year battle with OSP, myself and other involved parties have finally received the records pertaining to this case! There may be some additional ruleouts on people who are not in NamUs. Still perusing through the documents (50 pages long) and going through the crime scene photos to see what will be appropriate to share.

We have also retained Anthony Redgrave from Redgrave Research to do a facial reconstruction on the Jane doe, as we have sufficient skull photos for one! Soon she will finally have a face!

One thing should be pointed out...in 1990, the Union County DA ordered the case closed and the evidence destroyed. One of the most stupidest moves someone of his power could make! I wonder if this also meant the remains were destroyed too. Opinions?

 

[Bit of hope]

Hoping for a recon come true...

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

UPDATE!!!

After a two year battle with OSP, myself and other involved parties have finally received the records pertaining to this case! There may be some additional ruleouts on people who are not in NamUs. Still perusing through the documents (50 pages long) and going through the crime scene photos to see what will be appropriate to share.

We have also retained Anthony Redgrave from Redgrave Research to do a facial reconstruction on the Jane doe, as we have sufficient skull photos for one! Soon she will finally have a face!

One thing should be pointed out...in 1990, the Union County DA ordered the case closed and the evidence destroyed. One of the most stupidest moves someone of his power could make! I wonder if this also meant the remains were destroyed too. Opinions?

Fantastic news! So awesome that your hard work finally pays off. ggwp, sir!

I must admit I was so stoked until I read the last paragraph. If LE has destroyed the body and the evidence, it shouldn't surprise me the least, unfortunately

 

[JasonFutchLakeCityFL]

As previously mentioned in my last post, we received the files pertaining to the Finley Creek Jane Doe. After discussing this with the group, we are choosing to make the files available to the public for perusing. However, we do not intend to release the crime scene photos that has remains in it.

I will also note that there are some ruleouts and names in this report that are not in NamUs. I am working on one of the leads in this report involving a potential missing person named Dana Lou Sanchez of Thurston County, WA. She isn't in NamUS, but I am working to confirm a file even exists on her. Additionally, you will see information pertaining to Sherry Pickle of California and Melanie Flynn of Kentucky.

The files will be .JPG format because the file uploader will not let me upload large .PDF files.

 

[JasonFutchLakeCityFL]

Next 10 files...

 

[JasonFutchLakeCityFL]

Next 10 after that...

 

[JasonFutchLakeCityFL]

More!

 

[JasonFutchLakeCityFL]

Last set!

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

Thank you, Jason.

Hmm.. we discussed Tina Bradford earlier in the thread; was she ever located? Is she still considered a possible match for our Jane Doe?

 

[JasonFutchLakeCityFL]

Thank you, Jason.

Hmm.. we discussed Tina Bradford earlier in the thread; was she ever located? Is she still considered a possible match for our Jane Doe?

I am attempting to look at yearbooks in the Yamhill/Washington/Polk/Marion County areas. Its gonna take some time, but if we can't find what we are looking for, I am going to assume that the phone call OSP received was likely a crank call. The newspapers were vague on Tina Bradford (even misspelling her name), but the reports indicated that the woman who called OSP said Tina was from McMinnville, Oregon; which is about 45 minutes-1 hour south of Portland. I am doing everything I can to check everything before I rule her out.

Also, I am looking at a Thurston County lead, but just waiting on TCSO to follow up.