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I have reposted my original due to being unable to correct Michele Burger's surname which I had misspelt. Apologies to those who left a thank you:-
The following is a comment made under the video of Burger's testimony. It is clearly from a medic but I have not named anyone. It is there for anyone to read. I don't wish to openly name the poster but I am happy to link to the position where it can be found.
[video=youtube;uadnpxsXaKY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uadnpxsXaKY&index=5&list=PLPWoQvCMB4gIIt8dDH4mZ82NU-PD80VlW[/video]
"As a woman (or man) is screaming loudly and frantically in a continuous scream, she is using her FEV-1 part of her FORCED EXPIRATORY VOLUME first andthen FEV-2..., which is more forceful than her VITAL CAPACITY which isbasically inspiratory and therefore slower and less forceful BUT requiring moreactive pressure or force (roughly ATP<=>ADP+energy release [in themitochondria, duh!] for Actin/Myosin(again, without mentioning the role ofionic Calcium and some other muscle/sarcolemnal proteins) coupling anduncoupling in the striated muscle-in this case, the intercostals &diaphragmatic- which although partially involuntary, are striated too). Whenthe LAST HEAD SHOT hit the victim, her heart will still beat for seconds tomaybe minutes ( bradycardia first, then mixedhypoxic/neuronal/autonomic(parasympathetic or cholinergic part)->>brady/tachy/fibrillatory till complete ASYSTOLE) depending on the impact andextent of the bullet wound (ignoring the Cushing Triad sequence since this isnot a closed Head Injury), she will have NO cognitive functions left and NOinspiration (given that the Medulla Oblongata part of the Brainstem within theRhombencephalon is where the Respiratory Center is located with some higherneuronal connections and control in the Prosecephalon). BUT, her screaming,which is a part of her active expiratory effort or FEV-1 may continue for asecond, maybe 2, maybe 1.5 depending on it's intensity or the end of herEXPIRATORY VOLUME (and not FEV). It could have been drowned in the gunshot soundbecause the gunshot was louder and higher pitched (esp. a 9 mm which is a smallbore round but does travel through a narrower bore pistol than a .45ACP, .357mag or a .38 special but is less loud because less gunpowder in the case andlesser grained bullet) but ALL SOUND travels at the exact same velocity if itis through the same medium (as air in this case and the air here was the samein terms of temperature, humidity and all other physical properties, Ipresume). That much, I can help the prosecution very scientifically and to thepoint with my knowledge and field of expertise, if they happen to read my post.Leave the rest to the....rest. If anybody has questions about my explanationwith 1) the victim's scream or 2) gunshots, firearms or ballistics plz post andI can explain why-the mechanism; and how I suggested the answer. Legal stuff, Ihave no clue!! Leave it to the lawyers to fight it out. "
I am sure the moderators will remove this post if it contravenes any rule.
Apologies, my computer or the website is again leaving out the space between many words. There are too many for me to correct. I hope it is still readable.
Where the writer states that a gun sound could drown out the noise of the scream one must remember the scream would actually have occurred during or slightly after the gunshot sound and therefore Burger could have been absolutely correct about hearing Reeva's last scream after the fourth gunshot.
Professor Sayman,the pathologist who did the autopsy on Reeva, also stated that it was likely she screamedafter being shot in the head. What apity this was not followed up. Thefollowing is from news.sky. I don’t have time to listen to his testimonytonight but will try to do it tomorrow to confirm at what point he said this. I know many of us will remember it.
http://news.sky.com/story/1223868/oscar-pistorius-had-a-big-love-for-weapons
“He told thecourt Ms Steenkamp was shot three times - in the head, hip and arm - and thatit was likely she screamed after being shot in the head.”
The following is a comment made under the video of Burger's testimony. It is clearly from a medic but I have not named anyone. It is there for anyone to read. I don't wish to openly name the poster but I am happy to link to the position where it can be found.
[video=youtube;uadnpxsXaKY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uadnpxsXaKY&index=5&list=PLPWoQvCMB4gIIt8dDH4mZ82NU-PD80VlW[/video]
"As a woman (or man) is screaming loudly and frantically in a continuous scream, she is using her FEV-1 part of her FORCED EXPIRATORY VOLUME first andthen FEV-2..., which is more forceful than her VITAL CAPACITY which isbasically inspiratory and therefore slower and less forceful BUT requiring moreactive pressure or force (roughly ATP<=>ADP+energy release [in themitochondria, duh!] for Actin/Myosin(again, without mentioning the role ofionic Calcium and some other muscle/sarcolemnal proteins) coupling anduncoupling in the striated muscle-in this case, the intercostals &diaphragmatic- which although partially involuntary, are striated too). Whenthe LAST HEAD SHOT hit the victim, her heart will still beat for seconds tomaybe minutes ( bradycardia first, then mixedhypoxic/neuronal/autonomic(parasympathetic or cholinergic part)->>brady/tachy/fibrillatory till complete ASYSTOLE) depending on the impact andextent of the bullet wound (ignoring the Cushing Triad sequence since this isnot a closed Head Injury), she will have NO cognitive functions left and NOinspiration (given that the Medulla Oblongata part of the Brainstem within theRhombencephalon is where the Respiratory Center is located with some higherneuronal connections and control in the Prosecephalon). BUT, her screaming,which is a part of her active expiratory effort or FEV-1 may continue for asecond, maybe 2, maybe 1.5 depending on it's intensity or the end of herEXPIRATORY VOLUME (and not FEV). It could have been drowned in the gunshot soundbecause the gunshot was louder and higher pitched (esp. a 9 mm which is a smallbore round but does travel through a narrower bore pistol than a .45ACP, .357mag or a .38 special but is less loud because less gunpowder in the case andlesser grained bullet) but ALL SOUND travels at the exact same velocity if itis through the same medium (as air in this case and the air here was the samein terms of temperature, humidity and all other physical properties, Ipresume). That much, I can help the prosecution very scientifically and to thepoint with my knowledge and field of expertise, if they happen to read my post.Leave the rest to the....rest. If anybody has questions about my explanationwith 1) the victim's scream or 2) gunshots, firearms or ballistics plz post andI can explain why-the mechanism; and how I suggested the answer. Legal stuff, Ihave no clue!! Leave it to the lawyers to fight it out. "
I am sure the moderators will remove this post if it contravenes any rule.
Apologies, my computer or the website is again leaving out the space between many words. There are too many for me to correct. I hope it is still readable.
Where the writer states that a gun sound could drown out the noise of the scream one must remember the scream would actually have occurred during or slightly after the gunshot sound and therefore Burger could have been absolutely correct about hearing Reeva's last scream after the fourth gunshot.
Professor Sayman,the pathologist who did the autopsy on Reeva, also stated that it was likely she screamedafter being shot in the head. What apity this was not followed up. Thefollowing is from news.sky. I don’t have time to listen to his testimonytonight but will try to do it tomorrow to confirm at what point he said this. I know many of us will remember it.
http://news.sky.com/story/1223868/oscar-pistorius-had-a-big-love-for-weapons
“He told thecourt Ms Steenkamp was shot three times - in the head, hip and arm - and thatit was likely she screamed after being shot in the head.”