PA PA - Henryville, Rte 191, UnkMale 50-60, UP9734, torso in blk garbage bag, wired sternum, Dec'11

[Donjeta]

State police are investigating the discovery of a man's torso in a plastic trash bag Monday afternoon on a remote stretch of Route 191 south of Henryville.

A motorist spotted the trash bag at about 2:30 p.m. on the other side of the southbound lane guard rail, Monroe County Coroner Bob Allen said.

One article says he was over 25, another that he was 45-60.
http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111228/NEWS/112280321
http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20120106/NEWS90/120109798


The location is very approximate. A is Route 191 and B is Sylvan Cascade Road.

PA-191 N to Sylvan Cascades Rd - Google Maps

Edit: the map doesn't look right but the markers are there if you zoom out a little.

 

[micheleonelonly]

Looks like the wired sternum could be due to a previous open chest surgery, such as to the heart or lungs. The only missing men I could find matching that description are Joseph Pike and Ronald Duck.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/pike_joseph.html
He is a little young for this John Doe, and the spinal fusion makes me doubt that this is him, but is it possible that the fused part of the spine was not part of the remains found? I don't know anything about spinal fusions, so I could be wrong, I was just speculating.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/duck_ronald.html
Ronald Duck is awfully young for this Doe as well. He has been missing a long time, and I haven't seem any indication as to how long police think the man had been dead. Could Ronald have walked away from his life, only to meet this grisly fate later? Or maybe he went on the run, and the guy he testified against found him?

 

[Donjeta]

https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/7618/0/
Michael Brougham missing since 2010 has a large surgical scar on his sternum. He disappeared from 4.5 hours away, however and is supposed to have traveled in the other direction.

 

[bdawk20]

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=8482685

Weird that it says the torso was found in several bags. I wonder what made the motorist that spotted the bags call the police? To be honest, my 1st thought when seeing a garbage bag on the side of the road is not to call the police. Wish there was more info out there about this........

 

[anneonymous]

Donjeta... That is a really interesting theory! Mickey Brougham disappeared from one NASCAR race in June, and there would have been a Pocono race in August of that year. Here's the 2010 Nascar schedule.

 

[HauntsForHope]

https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/7618/0/
Michael Brougham missing since 2010 has a large surgical scar on his sternum. He disappeared from 4.5 hours away, however and is supposed to have traveled in the other direction.

Nice find! You should call this one in!

 

[bdawk20]

http://www.poconorecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111230/NEWS/112300325/-1/NEWSMAP

Says in this article the police are not saying what was unusual about the garbage bag that made the motorist stop. Seems to imply there was something about the bag that was out of the ordinary. I read another article stating that LE believes the bag was deliberately placed so that it would be found....which is so creepy, as if this wasn't creepy enough already. Here's that link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/30/pennsylvania-headless-torso-pocono-mountains_n_1176882.html

 

[Donjeta]

bdawk's link also says:

According to Monroe County Coroner Bob Allen, the torso is believed to have belonged to a man who could have been as young as 25. The victim is believed to have been dead between for two weeks and two months.

it would probably make him too young and too recent to be Michael Brougham but I've submitted him anyway.

 

[micheleonelonly]

it would probably make him too young and too recent to be Michael Brougham but I've submitted him anyway.

Since they're saying he could be that young, do you think I should submit the guys I found? I suppose it couldn't hurt, right?

 

[Donjeta]

Well, the worst that can happen is that they are ruled out.

If the torso was cut up in several bags I think it's possible that the spine wasn't all there.

 

[Donjeta]

They're in the process of analyzing DNA and know he didn't have any drugs or alcohol in his system when he died.

http://thetimes-tribune.com/samples...sent-for-dna-analysis-1.1260735#axzz1kgcpFun0

 

[Donjeta]

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/9734

No DNA yet.

 

[anneonymous]

Thank you for the update Donjeta. I was wondering about this. Interesting that NamUs gives it low identification potential when it's fresh enough to recover DNA. =(

 

[Donjeta]

Thank you for the update Donjeta. I was wondering about this. Interesting that NamUs gives it low identification potential when it's fresh enough to recover DNA. =(

Maybe it'll change once they've actually got the DNA in the system?

For now there is little to rule anybody in or out with no DNA, no fingerprints, no dentals.

 

[Irish_Eyes]

Throwing Daniel Gerard Ryan into the conversation....he was 24, so if the deceased could be as young as 25, that's not too far off. It does say Daniel had a scar on his abdomen from chest to navel...which definitely sounds like a surgical scar and one that could have involved a wired sternum. Also, he is from the Bronx, less than 2 hours from Poconos according to Google maps...

http://doenetwork.org/cases/3350dmny.html

 

[Donjeta]

Still unidentified but they have DNA now.

Complete mitochondrial DNA profile obtained and uploaded to NDIS. Complete LOW COPY STR profile available at UNT for comparison. Not eligible for upload to NDIS. CL

 

[Donjeta]

Now they're saying he's 50-60 years old.

 

[webrocket]

so they have a torso. no hair color is listed so are we to infer that there was no hair on the deceased's chest?

 

[rainwater]

Bumping

 

[Gardener1850]

Vanlouvender is a state police criminal investigator at the Swiftwater barracks. He tells Newswatch 16 a lab in Virginia ran some new tests earlier this year. The lab used DNA from the victim's rib to come up with this picture.

"They examined the DNA and made predictions on ancestry and what that person may look like," he explained.

The composite results showed the victim was about 55 years old with dark eyes and hair.

Authorities say this testing also suggested where the victim might have lived and much more.

"They believe that we should be looking maybe in the area south of Pennsylvania, in the states of Tennessee, Kentucky but also isotope readings were consistent with people who might be living in coastal California. They also believed the victim was subsiding on a rice-based diet more than a corn-based diet."

http://wnep.com/2016/10/27/troopers-hope-sketch-helps-close-cold-case-in-poconos/